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In post #9, JTQ offers his reasoning and method for bloat ware. I agree, and where possible use the same technique, but it doesn't always work. It seems sometimes the main software package prevents the removal of some bloat ware. Not everyone has the knowledge or skill to undertake open heart surgery on the fundamental software of phones or computers. Makafie, keeps coming back on one of my devices despite disabling it in the apps, it won't let me remove it.

We have seen a massive swing away from onetime purchase, with a life time licence to subscription models for not only computer software but to features on cars. It's a way for businesses to continue to make revenue on products long after they supply it, unfortunately it means consumers end up paying for the feature far more than the older single purchase method, but also it means that your at the mercy of the manufacturer and their plans, which might limit support for the feature for say 10 years, after which the product might stop working. Your probably also tied into the prospect of price rises during the life of the feature.

Will you remember to cancel your subscription for the heated rear seats in your car when you sel the car?

And if you by a second hand top of the line car with all the bells and whistles, only to discover some of the features are only available by subscription, how easy will it be to get them set up, or will you feel cheated that you payed for top model only to find it's not all available.

Similar increases in the number of products that need an App to enable them to function. Take front door camera feeds, with several of these, if the company goes out of business, your equipment becomes totally useless. Not to mention the numbers of data breaches that seem to occur with many of the smaller less well developed systems.
 
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In post #9, JTQ offers his reasoning and method for bloat ware. I agree, and where possible use the same technique, but it doesn't always work. It seems sometimes the main software package prevents the removal of some bloat ware. Not everyone has the knowledge or skill to undertake open heart surgery on the fundamental software of phones or computers. Makafie, keeps coming back on one of my devices despite disabling it in the apps, it won't let me remove it.

We have seen a massive swing away from onetime purchase, with a life time licence to subscription models for not only computer software but to features on cars. It's a way for businesses to continue to make revenue on products long after they supply it, unfortunately it means consumers end up paying for the feature far more than the older single purchase method, but also it means that your at the mercy of the manufacturer and their plans, which might limit support for the feature for say 10 years, after which the product might stop working. Your probably also tied into the prospect of price rises during the life of the feature.

Will you remember to cancel your subscription for the heated rear seats in your car when you sel the car?

And if you by a second hand top of the line car with all the bells and whistles, only to discover some of the features are only available by subscription, how easy will it be to get them set up, or will you feel cheated that you payed for top model only to find it's not all available.

Similar increases in the number of products that need an App to enable them to function. Take front door camera feeds, with several of these, if the company goes out of business, your equipment becomes totally useless. Not to mention the numbers of data breaches that seem to occur with many of the smaller less well developed systems.
BMW have just announced they won't be charging subscriptions for features like heated seats but only for software features https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/...charge-extra-activate-existing-functions-cars
 
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I think I have said this before, but you can now get washing machines that you can control from an App on your phone.
Does it collect up the washing, sort it into piles, check all the pockets load it into the machine, and add detergent and softener? No it doesn’t. I have to do all that.
So instead of doing all that and then pressing the start button, it wants me to do all that and then find my phone, find my glasses, open the App ( which will undoubtedly tell me it needs updating), give me a load of choices that I don’t want and then press the start button.
I think not.
Mel
Even worse. My fridge freezer is ‘connected’.
I can change the compartment's temperature from anywhere in the world! WHY.

What would be useful is if it messaged me if the temp started rising. But it does not have that feature.

John
 

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Idiotic functions have been added to devices for years. Remember VCR machines. Some were extremely difficult to program or even set the clock but the benefits were that you could program it to record something in a years time. Think about do you really know what's going to be on in 12mths time.

Well I guess if it's American TV then, yes, because the same channel plays the same programme over and over again.

Another dumb idea. A fridge with an LCD screen on it so you can see what's inside without opening the door.

I could go on for ever on this subject but my phone needs charging and I can't flush the toilet without it.
 
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One useful feature of my car that I discovered whilst exploring lower level settings menus is that the rear view camera can be set to continuous ON whilst driving forwards. So if carrying a bulky load I still get good rear visibility.
 
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One useful feature of my car that I discovered whilst exploring lower level settings menus is that the rear view camera can be set to continuous ON whilst driving forwards. So if carrying a bulky load I still get good rear visibility.
That is a very handy feature!
 
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And Big brother is Watching you.
How doorbells, smart speakers, TVs and washing machines are spying on you https://mol.im/a/12489621 via https://dailym.ai/android
Here is another link from Which consumer. Quite frightening how your data is being collected, processed and then probably sold on without your knowledge. When will caravans start communicating with you about their aches and pains and where they are feeling the damp?

See here for WHICH article.
 
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Here is another link from Which consumer. Quite frightening how your data is being collected, processed and then probably sold on without your knowledge. When will caravans start communicating with you about their aches and pains and where they are feeling the damp?

See here for WHICH article.
Technology has good uses as well - I have a Defibrillator/Pacemaker fitted, as well as those two functions it records everything that's going on in my heart - this data is downloaded every night using wifi to the monitor on my bedside table - the data is then transmitted by mobile phone to the manufacturer in the USA where it's analysed by their AI computer and recommendations sent electronically to Cardiology at my local hospital. The monitor is portable enough to take in the caravan.

I guess the next generation of implanted cardiac devices will also be able to call an emergency ambulance to the exact location when the proverbial hits the fan !
 
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A VPN and a PiHole (DNS server) help a lot in stopping your data being used :)
I have tried using a VPN, but so many websites detect the use of a VPN, particularly streaming sites.

However. I do stream F1 through a VPN set to America. But last week it was hunting and unwatchable.. So I contacted IT Support (granddaughter). Who said switch to France, sorted.

John
 
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This would fall under the same heading, but nothing to do with OP. Why do they insist on putting sticky labels over the "Directions" on using a product? I bought a shampoo that requires dilution, but a great big bar code sicker over the directions of usage. :unsure:
 
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This woudl fall under teh same heading, but nothing to do with OP. Why do they insist on putting sticky labels over the Directions on using a product? I bought a shampoo that requires dilution, but a great big bar code sicker over the directions of usage. :unsure:
Just count yourself luck to have enough hair to shampoo. I just use soap and not being follicularly endowed it then doesn't need combing for a couple of weeks after a visit to the barbers.
 
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One feature of my car that is offered are various "tunes" to help calm you down. Within the selection are tropical forest rainfall, pebbles moving on a beach, bird songs, and the background chatter of a French Bistro. Needless to say the menu is turned off. If I want calming down I listen to Status Quo.

Our grandson came around earlier to show us his new Tesla. But does anyone really want the car to play fart noises as you sit down, or leave your seat. If I had wanted that I'd have asked Alexa to assist! Nice car to ride in and wow does it accelerate. In October the two of us are off for a day at the RLC museum in Winchester. Looking forwards to the drive as much as the museum.
 
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One feature of my car that is offered are various "tunes" to help calm you down. Within the selection are tropical forest rainfall, pebbles moving on a beach, bird songs, and the background chatter of a French Bistro. In October the two of us are off for a day at the RLC museum in Winchester. Looking forwards to the drive as much as the museum.
Running water or listening to rainfall is a trigger point for me. LOL! :ROFLMAO: What is the RLC museum?
 
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