WiFi Hot Spot Finder

JTQ

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I have been looking at this subject too and my conclusion is that this simple type is not much use.

The reason is that it does not identify them, ie you don't know if it is the one you are looking for, its SSID or even if its an Un-secured one.

There are those that do but cost from about
 

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Hi, I have used one for years, I have a different model, a Kensington which works quite well. As said above, unless you spend real money it will only tell you that there is a WiFi singnal within range. It beats walking along looking a right prat with your laptop open.JTS.
 
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Not sure if this will help but there are now free downloads for Sat Nav's that give you where there are Hot Spots are. If you have a TOMTOM then you can download it free at TOMTOMFREE.com.

While you are on you can download the lsit of caravan sites that too is free

Tommy
 

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JTS,

Please keep us informed how you get on with it, I am very interested.

Need it for finding my BT openzone hotspots now there are thousands of FONs about out there.

Why that one rather than the much cheaper Edimax if I might be so rude to ask? The Edimax can so the ad claims give; "signal strength, SSID, operating channel, network mode, number of APs, encryption type of the detected network"

Cheers John
 
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Thanks again both. I will check them out tonight if I understand all the techiness :O)

By the sounds of it they sound expensive so it looks like I'm going to be doing some more selling on eBay :O)
 

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JTQ.

I know it is a little more expensive but it does have a higher specification and checked with a fiend who has one - very very happy - he told me had seen the Edimax and the LCD was not as bright, important when reading in bright sunlight. I don't think I will be out with it before 8th April and I have bought it mainly to use in France, away for 3 months early May. You are right about the number of Openzone/Fon hotspots, especially on the Continent.My mobile phone bill last year for 3 months in France was next to nothing afer using Skype. I will keep you in the picture when I have somthing to report. Good luck JTS.
 
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I was reading in the CC mag that after trials they are putting more wifi onto sites. Please tell me I'm wrong but I understood the price to be 15p per minute, is that correct? If so who will be able to afford to pay those prices because I certainly couldn't, even for emails which are only jokes. If anyone wants me they phone.

Surely if I understood that correctly at 15p per minute it wont be used.
 

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As a BT option 3 broadband client I get a free 250 minutes per month of BT Openzone [as well as unlimited time accessing FON sites].

My 250 minutes Openzone can also be used on BT's Partners sites.

Well the good news is that the Caravan Club use KeyZone who are indeed a BT partner. So I get a free 250 minutes; enough to service my emails.

I had to opt into this Openzone element but on my contract it was a freebie last year. You would have to check if it still is, mine is for my contracts life.

Other partners are T-Mobile and Cloud so it really does open up a lot of sites, Service stations, Starbucks etc.
 

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As a BT option 3 broadband client I get a free 250 minutes per month of BT Openzone [as well as unlimited time accessing FON sites].

My 250 minutes Openzone can also be used on BT's Partners sites.

Well the good news is that the Caravan Club use KeyZone who are indeed a BT partner. So I get a free 250 minutes; enough to service my emails.

I had to opt into this Openzone element but on my contract it was a freebie last year. You would have to check if it still is, mine is for my contracts life.

Other partners are T-Mobile and Cloud so it really does open up a lot of sites, Service stations, Starbucks etc.
I have yet to use it at any CC site myself, but I do use it with the other partners as well as Openzone sites and its fine.

I agree that the CC charges for casual users makes it "Dead in the Water" for any alert WiFi user.

For
 

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JTQ.

I may be wrong but you may be barking up the wrong tree. Yes BT Openzone/Fon are still free with generous allowances with BT Broadband. You do not have to use BT Openzone/Fon to connect to unscuured Hotspots so do not use your allowance on those. With secured Hotspots you will need a Password or a key to access it. So pay Hotspots like the CC Sites will need a password/key and to obtain this its a trip to the Warden with your wallet. If you are just sending/receiving emails then, as long as you have composed your emails before you log on, it will take seconds and cost very little and 50p worth of credit could last your stay on the site as long as you log off as soon as you have sent/downloaded. As I said, I could be wrong and dont forget, the part of your Broadband you have allocated to Fon is unsecured.

Is there anyone out there who has used the CC WiFi or BT Openzone/Fon who can relate their experience.

JTS.
 

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I tried using the BT Openzone both at home and abroad and found it to be a total disaster. There is a pdf file on the BT site that you can download and find hotspots all over the world. However WHEN you do find one that actually exists and try to log on a site run by the cloud for instance there is a link which should take you to BT Openzone but the link rarely works.

When I returned home I went to a cloud hotspot at the nearest pub and contacted BT on my mobile and asked the guy to talk me through it. He actually admitted that the link seldom works and suggested that I only used BT Openzone sites.

I gave up and now use GPRS through my moble and laptop.
 
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While away in Dorset I only found one hotspot, all the rest were secure. It was in Asda car park in Weymouth and the strength of the signal was better than I get on my home pc. Two days later I went to the same spot and the hotspot was showing but it wouldn't connect!

I went to PC World today but they don't sell these hotspot finders so having come back from Dorset and made a few quid on eBay while away it looks as if it will be the same as JTS as bought.

Can I just confirm that it's unsecured hotspots that I have to look for because secure ones are encrypted with a password?

If it is unsecure is it safe to use?
 

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"Can I just confirm that it's unsecured hotspots that I have to look for because secure ones are encrypted with a password?"

Yes and Yes, unless you are an Openzone or similar subscriber.

However remember that not all Hot Spots are connected to the World Wide Web [Internet]. In towns and about industrial Estates I find some unsecured ones are simply internal Networks without an accessible Internet connection. Generally in residential roads you find viable spots.

"If it is unsecure is it safe to use?"

Not if a boffin is sitting on it just waiting like a spider for you, but the chances are slight as any savvy user would have encrypted their modem. Normally I am only online for literally a minute or two pasting in pre-prepared emails and emptying my webmail box, so somebody has no realistic chance of cracking my firewall. I don't browse on these "available" Hot Spots. I also don't keep any confidential info at all on my laptop itself but on an encrypted USB stick, and all my contact details are off the machine on my webmail provider's server.
 

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LB.

You can log on to secure hotspots if you have the key/password, for instance, if you are on a CC site and you buy a card from the Warden which would give you the log on details. Much the same as you had to enter the key for your home network on your laptop at home. However you should be able to log on to any unsecured hotspot as long as the signal has the strength. Is it secure, not totally and there is a element of risk. Your laptop is new and it must have come with Windows Vista preloaded. Vista has many built in security features, plus I am sure, you are using a security package and will have your BT security package and Firewall enabled so you are reasonably protected. You should also ensure that the programmes that you will be using are password protected. Because you log on to a unsecure hotspot does not mean that you can enter the computer of the person that owns that hotspot, even though it could be some poor soul sitting in the corner of his lounge using his computer or some kid in their bedroom doing homework and unaware that you are using their network. I have been using other peoples networks all over Europe for years and will continue to do so. As for the WiFi finder, good bit of kit and you will not have to load it or plug it into your laptop as you already have good software/hardware on your laptop. I just use it as a finder and its worthwhile for that. As I have said in the past it beats walking along like a prat with your open laptop in front of you. I was once asked what I was doing walking along the prom with my laptop open ( I had been advised that there was a hotspot near) I told him I was searching for water, oh he said. With the finder you can discreetly look at it where ever you are. in the street, pub, cafe, post office etc. You will hear , I have no doubt, from the anti's, you will have to make up your own mind. Good luck. JTS.
 
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Thanks both. It looks like it's going to be the Dynamode. Did you get one after JTS and if so was there any problems from the site you posted the link for?

BTW if theres a BT Open Zone hotspot I take it the laptop automatically shows it as BT after scanning and all I have to do is click connect?
 
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A bit on the expensive side then Andrew, jeeeeeeeeezzzzz it would cost me a fortune at those prices. I can't see many using it for general surfing. I can't see me paying the
 

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LB.

Have you joined BT FON. If you have it could not be easier. Open up "BT Fon" home page, you are then asked to sign in and select an otion. Choose BT and click "I'm in" and you are then ready to log on to a Openzone Hotspot useing your minutes allowance that comes free with your Broadband subscription. As I remember it you have said that you will not be going abroad, if you were you would select the Fon option when you sign in, there are far more Fon hotspots abroad than openzone. Below is the link to where I bought my WiFi finder, it came next day postage free. As far as the charges for WiFi on CC sites are concerned I think its a real "rip off". I will never pay those rates and I am not sure the CC realise what a ride the firm that they have contracted to provide WiFi is taking us for. Its a pity and I hope campers will boycot it. We pay site fees and club subs and we should not expect a free WiFi service but surely we should not be ripped off. Three sites in France and two in Spain I will be using this year all provide WiFI free. Admitted you have to go to the Lounge/Bar area but who is complainig about that.

Good Luck.JTS.

http://astore.amazon.co.uk/myhotspots-21/detail/B000ORY1OA/203-7657935-1070345
 
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Graham, the link JTS gave above is for a finder which informs you if the site is secure or not.

Thanks JTS, I sent for one of those last night.

Yes, I joined BT Fon some weeks ago as soon as I bought the laptop.

I won't be paying for wifi on the sites out of principal. You can be assured that not only the provider is making a profit but the club will be to. When you consider that you probably pay around
 

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