Yes, I realise that Steve, and it wasn't my inteention to sound boastful, as there are also a lot of people with much more income than that.What I'm suggesting is that incomes rise as well, allbeit by a much smaller percentage.
Try working the price of petrol against the average hourly rate, then and now. There isn't a lot of difference.
Try working the price of petrol against the average hourly rate, then and now. There isn't a lot of difference.
emmerson said:
Unfortunately, pensioners don't get the average hourly rate, neither do people on fixed incomes.
Steve W
Its not just a matter of earnings v cost of fuel compared to 40 odd years ago because other living costs are much higher which leaves less disposable income.If youre on the minimum wage and own a Mondeo it must cost more than half your weekly wage just to fill up
Good point Mullsy.mullsy1 said:
Thus my theory that the longer I am away from home I'm saving on gas and electric which I offset against the sites and fuel costs. Theoretically my food and bar bill are about the same. As I said previously in a worst case scenario with a fuel guzzler the extra cost per 5000 miles is likely to be £333.34. A lot yes but in the overall picture not insurmountable if I rejig the distances, try and drive more economically, use CLs more , that figure can be reduced.
i'd like to see the same notion used on morgages of 1964, compaired to today.They certainly will not look as good as the petrol comparison you did.emmerson said:
To bring this back t the OP’s question,
“Will high fuel prices lead to site closures?”
The fuel price is just one aspect of the general economic conditions, and if sites do close it will probably be due to a combination of financial pressures, not just the cost of the fuel.
I agree with other posters, it is highly likely that the nature of sites may change if caravanners change their habits as a result of the cost or availability of fuel.
“Will high fuel prices lead to site closures?”
The fuel price is just one aspect of the general economic conditions, and if sites do close it will probably be due to a combination of financial pressures, not just the cost of the fuel.
I agree with other posters, it is highly likely that the nature of sites may change if caravanners change their habits as a result of the cost or availability of fuel.
Hi
I have just worked out on my local Morrisons price for diesel its going to cost me £93.10 for a 70lt fill up, which hopefully will get me about 455mls so when we go to Barnard Castle in June @ todays price will just get us there & back, without any site costs food or drinks in all for a week it would probably be cheaper aboard on a all inclusive, so much for supporting this countrys resorts, thanks to the robbing goverments & their Taxation policy's
I have just worked out on my local Morrisons price for diesel its going to cost me £93.10 for a 70lt fill up, which hopefully will get me about 455mls so when we go to Barnard Castle in June @ todays price will just get us there & back, without any site costs food or drinks in all for a week it would probably be cheaper aboard on a all inclusive, so much for supporting this countrys resorts, thanks to the robbing goverments & their Taxation policy's
Have watched site fees go up year on year for the last 7 odd years.Caravan sales i believe have been steady too,and having just tried to see what was still available for easter using the CC website,they too seem to be doing fine.Prof John L said:
If sites do close down,then it can only be a case of closing down sooner than would have happened anyway,and cannot believe how fuel prices going up by 50p a gallon from over 2 years ago and therefore costing 2 or 3 pounds extra for a typical 200 mile journey is going to make that much a difference in the grand scale of things........If people really think it will! then 1 less day away in every 12 days away will more than make up the so called extra cost.
I know I was having a bit of banter winding the ol' tyke up earlier in this thread but it is a fact, we aren't cutting down on our trips out.
Out of the 11 weeks we've got booked 3 are at CLs. When away we don't dine out at restaurants unless you count the occasional Toby Carvery @£5.25 each. We aren't wine drinkers (prefer a glass of cold milk ) although I might, well I do mostly, have one bottle of Stella a day. We don't go to expensive places where it can cost an arm and a leg to get in. We might go to Trebah Gardens, or some other similar place, because we can take the dogs with us and we can spend all day there if we wish. We go away mainly to somewhere where it's peaceful with hopefully nice views and an ideal place for the dogs because they come first
Basically neither of us are expensive items and we cut our cloth accordingly.
Out of the 11 weeks we've got booked 3 are at CLs. When away we don't dine out at restaurants unless you count the occasional Toby Carvery @£5.25 each. We aren't wine drinkers (prefer a glass of cold milk ) although I might, well I do mostly, have one bottle of Stella a day. We don't go to expensive places where it can cost an arm and a leg to get in. We might go to Trebah Gardens, or some other similar place, because we can take the dogs with us and we can spend all day there if we wish. We go away mainly to somewhere where it's peaceful with hopefully nice views and an ideal place for the dogs because they come first
Basically neither of us are expensive items and we cut our cloth accordingly.
The fuel costs could help the uk economy as I am sure I am not the only person who has chosen to stay in the uk rather than tow to Europe for the summer.
One concession I have taken is to buy a 2nd hand Clio dCi to commute in rather than the 4x4. 60mpg rather than 37mpg on my 62 mile daily travel.
One concession I have taken is to buy a 2nd hand Clio dCi to commute in rather than the 4x4. 60mpg rather than 37mpg on my 62 mile daily travel.
Ah, so it was you LB I saw wearing the Fred Flintstone clothesLord Braykewynde said:I know I was having a bit of banter winding the ol' tyke up earlier in this thread but it is a fact, we aren't cutting down on our trips out.
Out of the 11 weeks we've got booked 3 are at CLs. When away we don't dine out at restaurants unless you count the occasional Toby Carvery @£5.25 each. We aren't wine drinkers (prefer a glass of cold milk ) although I might, well I do mostly, have one bottle of Stella a day. We don't go to expensive places where it can cost an arm and a leg to get in. We might go to Trebah Gardens, or some other similar place, because we can take the dogs with us and we can spend all day there if we wish. We go away mainly to somewhere where it's peaceful with hopefully nice views and an ideal place for the dogs because they come first
Basically neither of us are expensive items and we cut our cloth accordingly.
Dustydog said:Ah, so it was you LB I saw wearing the Fred Flintstone clothes
..... I do draw a line though, I wear the missus' tights in the winter. Glad when spring arrives so I can dispense with them and shave my legs
I'm sure you are aware that fuel prices are lower generally in western europe,compaired to here in the UK. which if you think about it,means you post doesn't add up.Zafiral said:
I am sure "some" will indeed stay in these shores who normally tour abroad, but most will carry on doing what they have always done.as there is more to working out the cost of a holiday than just fuel!
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