Just had delivered. 08 Range Rover V8 diesel, goes like the clappers with all the whistles. Just going to indulge see u later, Bazz.
Yipee, just picked my Rangie
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Send it back as you are the enemy of the eco banchies and therefore responsible for the end of the world - that is if we listen to them LOL
Dear Mr I'mAlright,
Hi Jack, allow me to be the first to congratulate you on your fantastic new acquisition...
More to the point, let me personally THANK you from the tip of my eyebrows for indulging yourself (and me, but the less said about the better), and I hope you enjoy many, many miles in it.
The more miles you do of course, the more pleased I will be as V8s don't do many to the gallon and I really want to see you squeeze in as many gals as you can every week (know what I mean!!!)
If only there were more people like you, then the country wouldn't be in half the shite we have created.
People like you contribute all that car tax, VAT, top-whack excise, and drive loads of miles so we really rake in the diesel duty.
(And that reminds me, be sure to be back in a couple of years to trade in for another one - I've just slapped another 500 quid on new gas guzzlers at the showroom, and you wouldn't like me to miss out on that, would you?)
No, you enjoy.
I am duty bound (excuse pun) to demonstrate my green credentials and people like you really make it all worth while. All that extra money you give, I'm gobsmacked.
Yours very gratefully,
Alastair
(PS: May I urge you to have a drink and a cigar to celebrate - make it a Scotch though and could you be so kind as to wait until after Sunday when you'll give me an extra 55p.)
Hi Jack, allow me to be the first to congratulate you on your fantastic new acquisition...
More to the point, let me personally THANK you from the tip of my eyebrows for indulging yourself (and me, but the less said about the better), and I hope you enjoy many, many miles in it.
The more miles you do of course, the more pleased I will be as V8s don't do many to the gallon and I really want to see you squeeze in as many gals as you can every week (know what I mean!!!)
If only there were more people like you, then the country wouldn't be in half the shite we have created.
People like you contribute all that car tax, VAT, top-whack excise, and drive loads of miles so we really rake in the diesel duty.
(And that reminds me, be sure to be back in a couple of years to trade in for another one - I've just slapped another 500 quid on new gas guzzlers at the showroom, and you wouldn't like me to miss out on that, would you?)
No, you enjoy.
I am duty bound (excuse pun) to demonstrate my green credentials and people like you really make it all worth while. All that extra money you give, I'm gobsmacked.
Yours very gratefully,
Alastair
(PS: May I urge you to have a drink and a cigar to celebrate - make it a Scotch though and could you be so kind as to wait until after Sunday when you'll give me an extra 55p.)
A question...which is better to buy a Range rover V8 that is completely made in the UK, or to buy a cleaner, greener car that has spent months on a ship being transported half way round the world. Shipping is one of the worst contributors of CO2 gas.
Bazz I applaud you on buying British!
Bazz I applaud you on buying British!
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Hi David
I understand your sentiments to Buy British. Remember the old slogan from the 70s , I'm backing Britain.
Unfortunately my meagre wallet will not allow me to buy British, well there's nothing British that will easily tug my Wyoming other than a RR V8 diesel. I just can't afford it so have to look to the Pacific Rim.
Unfortunately Great Britain is totally reliant upon cargo ships bringing our imported foodstuffs and OIL to our shores.
Thus even if I had fuel guzzling V8 RR i would still be contributing to the pollution made by the oil tankers that import the precious fuel I burn.
Lexus are getting close with their hybrid RX400 but again that's not made here in the UK. Shame.
Cheers
Alan
I understand your sentiments to Buy British. Remember the old slogan from the 70s , I'm backing Britain.
Unfortunately my meagre wallet will not allow me to buy British, well there's nothing British that will easily tug my Wyoming other than a RR V8 diesel. I just can't afford it so have to look to the Pacific Rim.
Unfortunately Great Britain is totally reliant upon cargo ships bringing our imported foodstuffs and OIL to our shores.
Thus even if I had fuel guzzling V8 RR i would still be contributing to the pollution made by the oil tankers that import the precious fuel I burn.
Lexus are getting close with their hybrid RX400 but again that's not made here in the UK. Shame.
Cheers
Alan
Hi Alan
A Honda CR-V, made in Swindon, should be able to tug a wyoming without too much trouble. But I agree, as an Island we are dependant on getting stuff here by some means. I suppose a slow boat from China is better than shipping everything by air.
Here's a thought, why don't we start making stuff on this Isalnd again???
David
A Honda CR-V, made in Swindon, should be able to tug a wyoming without too much trouble. But I agree, as an Island we are dependant on getting stuff here by some means. I suppose a slow boat from China is better than shipping everything by air.
Here's a thought, why don't we start making stuff on this Isalnd again???
David
Well "a slow boat from China" is likely to start bringing our Land Rovers and Jaguars in soon!! Very sad...
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Hi David
Unfortunately the Honda CRV is just too light, 1660kgs and I think the max noseweight and towing capability would leave it struggling with the Wyoming. It's made 8 miles from where I live and I do know the new diesel is a strong performer.
Maybe if Honda were to make a beefier version , I think they would be onto a winner.
Cheers
Alan
Unfortunately the Honda CRV is just too light, 1660kgs and I think the max noseweight and towing capability would leave it struggling with the Wyoming. It's made 8 miles from where I live and I do know the new diesel is a strong performer.
Maybe if Honda were to make a beefier version , I think they would be onto a winner.
Cheers
Alan
yes, the atlantic is there, to be crossed, the big ship is big to carry big cargo, that's what it was built for. it's called global business. that's what makes the economic world turn. we all cross the globe, if we don't, we certainly expect to buy things that do. if we ever get on a plane to travel, or buy anything that's come here in a cargo container, it's hypocritical for anyone to complain. if we can't accept this then we might as well jack in all life as we have become accustomed to know and enjoy it...
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Hi Colinn.
Dead right. Dave's original point was that if we all bought British we would not cause big ships to cross the oceans polluting the atmosphere .
I buy from world wide markets simply because I can't afford the RRV8. As far as I know most of our oil is imported so running a big V8 is more likely to cause more pollution from where Dave stands.
If we go totally green whats the point of being here. We'll all be living in trees eating bananas or whatever.
So sorry guys I shall continue buying from abroad and unfortunately will share a minute responsibility for more pollution.
Cheers
Alan
Dead right. Dave's original point was that if we all bought British we would not cause big ships to cross the oceans polluting the atmosphere .
I buy from world wide markets simply because I can't afford the RRV8. As far as I know most of our oil is imported so running a big V8 is more likely to cause more pollution from where Dave stands.
If we go totally green whats the point of being here. We'll all be living in trees eating bananas or whatever.
So sorry guys I shall continue buying from abroad and unfortunately will share a minute responsibility for more pollution.
Cheers
Alan
I am not a greeny, but, the way I see it, if we all expect to travel the globe and transport goods around the world because it is a bit cheaper or easier than the alternatives, then we are going to have to accept the consequences of it. So far the immediate consequences appear to be considerably more expensive fuel for two reasons, higher taxation (from thieving governments) and also from supply and demand, with supplies eventually running out. Global warming is another consequence which, if some are to be believed, is going to make the inconvenience of expensive fuel insignificant. A small rise in sea level will result in half of east anglia becoming uninhabitable, more flooding in all coastal flood plains, increased coastal errosion. That is just what might happen locally. Some countries will just disappear!
I have taken some steps to protect myself from rising fuel costs, I stopped commuting and found a way to work from home for 90% of the time, cutting out 80 miles a day stuck in the car. How many people could realistically do increased work from home, therefore cutting down on commuting? It is time for peoples (and employers) attitudes to home working to change. By not commuting, I am saving myself at least
I have taken some steps to protect myself from rising fuel costs, I stopped commuting and found a way to work from home for 90% of the time, cutting out 80 miles a day stuck in the car. How many people could realistically do increased work from home, therefore cutting down on commuting? It is time for peoples (and employers) attitudes to home working to change. By not commuting, I am saving myself at least
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Hi David
The work from home thing sounds good initially.
I did it for four years upto 2006. Some days I was still in my dressing gown working away by lunchtime. It was easy to start early eg 6.30am but somehow, and my fault, I became a slave to the PC and was still doing e-mails at 9.00pm. Without realising it I was working far longer hours and gradually the employers expectations of me increased exponentially, again my fault.
Yes , I did make good savings on commuting but equally I began to miss the banter in the office and gradually became isolated only seeing clients regularly and my work colleagues say monthly.
Work from home is still I believe the best way to go but those who do it need to manage themselves very caefully or you will fall into the trap that I did.
The bonus was I could peepare the caravan the day before without needing another days holiday. Cheating or what??
Cheers
Alan
The work from home thing sounds good initially.
I did it for four years upto 2006. Some days I was still in my dressing gown working away by lunchtime. It was easy to start early eg 6.30am but somehow, and my fault, I became a slave to the PC and was still doing e-mails at 9.00pm. Without realising it I was working far longer hours and gradually the employers expectations of me increased exponentially, again my fault.
Yes , I did make good savings on commuting but equally I began to miss the banter in the office and gradually became isolated only seeing clients regularly and my work colleagues say monthly.
Work from home is still I believe the best way to go but those who do it need to manage themselves very caefully or you will fall into the trap that I did.
The bonus was I could peepare the caravan the day before without needing another days holiday. Cheating or what??
Cheers
Alan
Alan made the comment "Lexus are getting close with their hybrid RX400 but again that's not made here in the UK. Shame."
What most commentators fail to understand is that the Hybrid technology will bring no advantage and even a disadvantage when towing more that a few miles.
It's excellent technology to get a low CO2 figure in the few mile test required for its rating. It's also good in stop start town driving and if that's what you do a lot of the time its sensible route to go.
However, where sustained levels of highish power are needed, such as towing, the prime mover engine must be carrying all the load as the batteries can not. Then that prime mover has to pull along all that extra battery and electric drive weight.
So much of the "Green Issue" guidance and taxation is based on unsound information and lack of in-depth knowledge.
What most commentators fail to understand is that the Hybrid technology will bring no advantage and even a disadvantage when towing more that a few miles.
It's excellent technology to get a low CO2 figure in the few mile test required for its rating. It's also good in stop start town driving and if that's what you do a lot of the time its sensible route to go.
However, where sustained levels of highish power are needed, such as towing, the prime mover engine must be carrying all the load as the batteries can not. Then that prime mover has to pull along all that extra battery and electric drive weight.
So much of the "Green Issue" guidance and taxation is based on unsound information and lack of in-depth knowledge.
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Hi JTQ
My mates got one of these hybrids. It has a "guage" which tells you the % of power being used by the petrol engine and electric motors. Certainly it uses regenerative energy to charge the batteries as well as the alternator. I've never towed with one so you may be right. But it seems the Chancellor likes them. Has he got it wrong?
Perhaps one of the Toyota / Lexus boffins could explain if there are any real benefits towing with a hybrid?
Cheers
Alan
My mates got one of these hybrids. It has a "guage" which tells you the % of power being used by the petrol engine and electric motors. Certainly it uses regenerative energy to charge the batteries as well as the alternator. I've never towed with one so you may be right. But it seems the Chancellor likes them. Has he got it wrong?
Perhaps one of the Toyota / Lexus boffins could explain if there are any real benefits towing with a hybrid?
Cheers
Alan
Hi Alan
I agree with your views too. I have been doing the working from home thing on-off for about 6 years now, with a bit of a break 2 years ago while I worked for a dinosaur of an employer who did not allow work from home. The first 4 years were for a big software company, and on average I spent probably 3 days from home and the remaining 2 days either in the office or on the road. However, the office I worked from started out with over 30 people, but ended up with just a handful in every day, so the employer expected people to go to the office more to make it "seem" busier. I soon left....
I now work for myself, and find it fits in much better with a busy family life. I get to see the kids in the moring, take them to/from school some days, and yes can prepare the caravan at will. Yes I find I work in the evenings some days, but I make a point of stopping soon after they come home form school, so I can spend a few hours with them, and then do some more work later on, when they are asleep.
It works for me, and I cannot imagine ever going out to work for someone else again. Never will I join the M42 traffic queues again just trying to get somewhere else to sit behind a laptop.....
David
I am pretty sure that Lexus designed their hybrid just to sell it in London. The hybrid capabilities are a long way short of those of the Toyota Hybrid. It is kind of the minimum required to gain free entry to London for a big luxury car. Because of that, I am sure it is probably not a big compromise when it is used for towing, it remains a big car which will produce a lot of CO2. It just happens to be a hybrid, which means the CO2 emissions do not matter as far as congestion charging goes. A bit of a con if you ask me!
Cheers
David
Silly thing is if the manufactures used stop start technology this would reduce there c02 levels straight away
Curiously, I have just signed the deal for my replacement Range Rover, and I'm looking forward to running a nice cheap car.
You see, it was made in 1994, 3.9l V8 petrol, with LPG.
Took me ages to find a good one.
Road tax
You see, it was made in 1994, 3.9l V8 petrol, with LPG.
Took me ages to find a good one.
Road tax
jammy b******
followed one the other day, couldn't keep up, must be a brilliant towcar, if only I had the money!
followed one the other day, couldn't keep up, must be a brilliant towcar, if only I had the money!
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Dear Baz, bet you didn't realise that your esteemed leaders read the Forum did you? Well, we've got eyes everywhere you know. Anyway, I couldn't help but notice the letter from my pal Al and I just wanted to add my congratulations on your new Rangie too.
Rangies? We love 'em. Landcruisers, Mercs, Porsches, Beemers too. Anything half decent...they're the wheels to make our eyes glaze over...
We in the Labour Party always like to let it be known how people do so well under us. And people like your good self give us just the right image!!
Rangies are such a rare sight these days around City Hall that I never get chance to have a go, so I just wondered if you might bring yours in and take me for a spin.
All those toys - must be wonderful. Hope you enjoy - God you've certainly paid for the privilege (oh, I digress, better not go there...).
Of course, I know it will set you back 25 quid to come into town, but hell, what's that for a beauty like yours. And anyway, suppose you may as well get used to the idea because all my mates at City Halls across the land are latching on.
Yep, take it from me (would I lie?), it'll soon be costing you plenty of lovely quids to drive in any busy town, and probably along most main roads too.
But we know fine people like you won't mind. You've already shown how happy you are to line our pockets so that you can drive a super-duper car.
Just one other thing. As you're caravanner, could you spread the word among your mates. Tell 'em all to get one - can't drive anything better for towing, for God's sake.
Don't they know their country needs them? We're never happier than when they're on the road - all that extra fuel, glugh, glugh, glugh!! It's the only way we can prise open their wallets.
(Keep it quiet, but we're not really very keen on green caravan types - no money in it for us is there? And you know how much we needa de money, eh?)
And less of this provocative nonsense that caravans should be lighter. That'll mean that smaller cars will do the towing - and we wouldn't want that, would we??
My pal Al, he's a real whiz when it comes to robbing...did I say that, I meant...raising cash, and the funny thing is that this time hardly anyone has noticed. Even Mondeo man can look forward to giving us an extra 100 quid a year (mind you, we're talking Mondeo man here, most of 'em haven't even noticed yet - like taking candy from a baby, te he!)
Yep, big car drivers, we love 'em. The bigger and better the car, the more we love 'em.
So don't you stint on your driving. Get out there and hit the road man, preferably with the caravan on the back.
Yours, ever grateful,
Ken
Dear Baz, bet you didn't realise that your esteemed leaders read the Forum did you? Well, we've got eyes everywhere you know. Anyway, I couldn't help but notice the letter from my pal Al and I just wanted to add my congratulations on your new Rangie too.
Rangies? We love 'em. Landcruisers, Mercs, Porsches, Beemers too. Anything half decent...they're the wheels to make our eyes glaze over...
We in the Labour Party always like to let it be known how people do so well under us. And people like your good self give us just the right image!!
Rangies are such a rare sight these days around City Hall that I never get chance to have a go, so I just wondered if you might bring yours in and take me for a spin.
All those toys - must be wonderful. Hope you enjoy - God you've certainly paid for the privilege (oh, I digress, better not go there...).
Of course, I know it will set you back 25 quid to come into town, but hell, what's that for a beauty like yours. And anyway, suppose you may as well get used to the idea because all my mates at City Halls across the land are latching on.
Yep, take it from me (would I lie?), it'll soon be costing you plenty of lovely quids to drive in any busy town, and probably along most main roads too.
But we know fine people like you won't mind. You've already shown how happy you are to line our pockets so that you can drive a super-duper car.
Just one other thing. As you're caravanner, could you spread the word among your mates. Tell 'em all to get one - can't drive anything better for towing, for God's sake.
Don't they know their country needs them? We're never happier than when they're on the road - all that extra fuel, glugh, glugh, glugh!! It's the only way we can prise open their wallets.
(Keep it quiet, but we're not really very keen on green caravan types - no money in it for us is there? And you know how much we needa de money, eh?)
And less of this provocative nonsense that caravans should be lighter. That'll mean that smaller cars will do the towing - and we wouldn't want that, would we??
My pal Al, he's a real whiz when it comes to robbing...did I say that, I meant...raising cash, and the funny thing is that this time hardly anyone has noticed. Even Mondeo man can look forward to giving us an extra 100 quid a year (mind you, we're talking Mondeo man here, most of 'em haven't even noticed yet - like taking candy from a baby, te he!)
Yep, big car drivers, we love 'em. The bigger and better the car, the more we love 'em.
So don't you stint on your driving. Get out there and hit the road man, preferably with the caravan on the back.
Yours, ever grateful,
Ken
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