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I'm sorry Lutz but there are those who will never reform, they will continue to commit simply because they are evil, what is your suggestion for dealing with those people? Wring your hands and give up on them, letting them continue their nefarious ways?

Martin is right, the aim of sending them to prison is to punish them. Remember the days when children were actually punished in school or the home with a slap. It didn't hurt that much but one learned to respect the teacher or parent. Do you honestly think that stopping a child from using their play station for the night or a teacher keeping a child in at playtime is punishment for bad and unacceptable behaviour?

There stems the problem, there is no punishment today so kids are growing up with the fear of nobody. They don't respect authority of any kind, infact they believe it's their right to challenge it.

Again Martin is right, the party who promises to clamp down hard on political correctness will get a landslide victory. My fear is that the next government, aka Cameron, have made no such promises. Probably because PC is so ingrained now, spreading it's cancerous tentacles, aided by people in government who despise this country and espouse multi-culturism, destroying our own culture and all we hold dear in the process.

I want children to grow up and enjoy life, not to be afraid of walking the streets incase they don't show a d**khead "respect" and end up with a knife between the ribs. I want them to listen to stories/nursery rhymes like the Three Little Pigs, Ba Ba Black Sheep or Noddy & Big Ears without some moronic do-gooder with little to do in life interferring.

God forbid if ever I had free reign in this country, these people are the first I would line up and shoot.

Now back to prisons, yesterday on our radio some jerk was debating with the presenter the fact why it is justified to pay convicts thousands of
 
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I'm sorry Lutz but there are those who will never reform, they will continue to commit simply because they are evil, what is your suggestion for dealing with those people? Wring your hands and give up on them, letting them continue their nefarious ways?

Martin is right, the aim of sending them to prison is to punish them. Remember the days when children were actually punished in school or the home with a slap. It didn't hurt that much but one learned to respect the teacher or parent. Do you honestly think that stopping a child from using their play station for the night or a teacher keeping a child in at playtime is punishment for bad and unacceptable behaviour?

There stems the problem, there is no punishment today so kids are growing up with the fear of nobody. They don't respect authority of any kind, infact they believe it's their right to challenge it.

Again Martin is right, the party who promises to clamp down hard on political correctness will get a landslide victory. My fear is that the next government, aka Cameron, have made no such promises. Probably because PC is so ingrained now, spreading it's cancerous tentacles, aided by people in government who despise this country and espouse multi-culturism, destroying our own culture and all we hold dear in the process.

I want children to grow up and enjoy life, not to be afraid of walking the streets incase they don't show a d**khead "respect" and end up with a knife between the ribs. I want them to listen to stories/nursery rhymes like the Three Little Pigs, Ba Ba Black Sheep or Noddy & Big Ears without some moronic do-gooder with little to do in life interferring.

God forbid if ever I had free reign in this country, these people are the first I would line up and shoot.

Now back to prisons, yesterday on our radio some jerk was debating with the presenter the fact why it is justified to pay convicts thousands of
 
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One final point on this.

God forbid if ever I had free reign in this country, these people are the first I would line up and shoot.

You need to hope that you got in the first shot, before we have the all out war. It's like the slum prisons that have ben advocated ( Are you going to be the Prison Officer )
 
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I'm sorry Lutz but there are those who will never reform, they will continue to commit simply because they are evil, what is your suggestion for dealing with those people? Wring your hands and give up on them, letting them continue their nefarious ways?

Martin is right, the aim of sending them to prison is to punish them. Remember the days when children were actually punished in school or the home with a slap. It didn't hurt that much but one learned to respect the teacher or parent. Do you honestly think that stopping a child from using their play station for the night or a teacher keeping a child in at playtime is punishment for bad and unacceptable behaviour?

There stems the problem, there is no punishment today so kids are growing up with the fear of nobody. They don't respect authority of any kind, infact they believe it's their right to challenge it.

Again Martin is right, the party who promises to clamp down hard on political correctness will get a landslide victory. My fear is that the next government, aka Cameron, have made no such promises. Probably because PC is so ingrained now, spreading it's cancerous tentacles, aided by people in government who despise this country and espouse multi-culturism, destroying our own culture and all we hold dear in the process.

I want children to grow up and enjoy life, not to be afraid of walking the streets incase they don't show a d**khead "respect" and end up with a knife between the ribs. I want them to listen to stories/nursery rhymes like the Three Little Pigs, Ba Ba Black Sheep or Noddy & Big Ears without some moronic do-gooder with little to do in life interferring.

God forbid if ever I had free reign in this country, these people are the first I would line up and shoot.

Now back to prisons, yesterday on our radio some jerk was debating with the presenter the fact why it is justified to pay convicts thousands of
 
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Will the voters remember this come the election? probably not, G Brown will offer a bribe and the dumb b.......s will fall into line. Thery always do, and then complain.
 
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Exactly SL. Like a referendum on the European Constitution. Something he later saw that he would lose so he reneagued on his promise, saying it was an amendment. I for one wont forget ;O)
 
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Just a strange comment. If there are so many like minded people in the Uk why do we end up with such s....y Governments? No other country in Europe tolerates sucg goings on. In the old days the people of Edinburgh used to hang the government officals they did not like, what happened? Are we such anation of sheep, or pigs......? Even the pigs joined the snout in the trough brigade in Animal Farm.
 
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I'm concerned that realistic violent computer games are a major factor in what appears to be this rise in knifings and violence.

If you practice disembowelling or cutting the throat of your victim 100 times per day on the computer screen surely it must make it much easier or even second nature when you've had a few pints, some dodgy substances or have a naturally violent nature or violent upbringing.

As well as meting out the correct punishment I'd like to see the Govt taking steps to get excessive realistic violence off of TV screens and out of Video games.
 
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One final point on this.

God forbid if ever I had free reign in this country, these people are the first I would line up and shoot.

You need to hope that you got in the first shot, before we have the all out war. It's like the slum prisons that have ben advocated ( Are you going to be the Prison Officer )
No such lowly position for me, Home Secretary.
 
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As far as TV is concerned I very rarely watch it as 99% of the time it is rubbish - too many soaps, American violence or stupid shows where they expect the public to phone in on a premium rate number to cast a vote for an amateur "working man's club" entertainer. Apart from the news, which I don't watch now so often as it is always the same, I watch virtually no TV at all. I do have a look in the paper each day to see what is on in case there could be something of interest. Computer games are just as bad - the majority of them are American violence from what I can understand - no wander America is gun and war crazy. Ban the lot of them and bring back the likes of Mrs. Whitehouse - what happened to the 9:00pm watershed?
 
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I think many of us could commit crimes with ease but are deterred by the thought of prison and the stigma of being a criminalts.

To say prison does not deter 'people' from commiting crimes is different to prison not deterring criminals from re commiting.

Working pople are expected to offer value for money and increase productivity.

Many people have there lives shortened by the state as drugs and care are costly and many such people have lead exemplary lives. To exclude criminals and murderers from the same rules re finance when you look at the mayhem so many low lifes cause for good people. Execution is cost effective compared to the obscene costs involved in keeping the Yorkshire Ripper and the like alive.

Soldiers go to war against an enemy and soldiers on both sides no that they might die. Criminals go to war against the majority of society. If the murder or commit heanous crimes I can see no reson why they should expect to live at the expense of the people they go to war against.

Chain gang and hard labour is lacking in the UK penal system.
 

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