2007 renault megane 5 door hb 1.5 dci what can i tow

[john_374376226]

please help some one

i have a 2007 renault megane 5 door hb 1.5 dci

permissible nose weight is 75kg

mmac 1770

mtr 2750

can some one help me work out what size caravan i can tow loaded and empty please help urgent

 

[RogerL]

I take it that 1770kg is the Maximum Authorised Mass of the car and 2750kg is Maximum Train Mass.

If so, you can tow 1125kg actual weight - that's 2750-1770+75.

You also need to establish the Mass in Running Order from the V5 and calculate the towing ratio.

 

[john_374376226]

I take it that 1770kg is the Maximum Authorised Mass of the car and 2750kg is Maximum Train Mass.

If so, you can tow 1125kg actual weight - that's 2750-1770+75.

You also need to establish the Mass in Running Order from the V5 and calculate the towing ratio.

thank you so much for your help i am so new to this

can i ask what you mean by establish the Mass in Running Order from the V5 and calculate the towing ratio.

is the 1125kg the weight of the van loaded ?

i know i sound a bit thick but never had a caravan before and just dont know where to start

thanks

 

[john_374376226]

I take it that 1770kg is the Maximum Authorised Mass of the car and 2750kg is Maximum Train Mass.

If so, you can tow 1125kg actual weight - that's 2750-1770+75.

You also need to establish the Mass in Running Order from the V5 and calculate the towing ratio.

hi

all i can see in the v5 is

max permimissable mass 1770

mass in service 1300

braked 1300 kg

 

[john_374376226]

I take it that 1770kg is the Maximum Authorised Mass of the car and 2750kg is Maximum Train Mass.

If so, you can tow 1125kg actual weight - that's 2750-1770+75.

You also need to establish the Mass in Running Order from the V5 and calculate the towing ratio.

help

this is getting me crazy

ok here goes

permissible nose weight is 75kg

mmac 1770

mtr 2750

just looked on a web site and it says

Kerb Weight KG 1195

85% Weight KG 1016

Max Towing Weight KG 1300

how do i work this all out?

i just cant work out what weight caravan to buy

 

[rob_jax]

Hi John,

Quote "just looked on a web site and it says

Kerb Weight KG 1195

85% Weight KG 1016

Max Towing Weight KG 1300

how do i work this all out?

i just cant work out what weight caravan to buy"

Assuming that what you have written or copied down is accurate, the important information is:

1. The maximum weight you can tow is 1300kg - but this comes with a warning:

2. Because you have a Renault (and they calculate this max tow weight differently from every other manufacturer), your maximum tow weight reduces as you load up the car.

3. So if you do make full use of the car's payload, then the maximum you can tow is Roger's calculation (maximum train weight minus maximum car weight) of 1125 kg - and this will be a safe working limit. This is a legal maximum.

4. As you are totally new to this - then the recommendation is to buy a caravan with a maximum weight no greater than 85% of the car's kerb-weight - which you reported as 1016kg. This is a recommended maximum (following good practice)

Summary:

You need to look for a caravan that has a maximum weight of very close to 1000kg (but never more than 1125kg), and hopefully an unladen weight of around 800kg or less...

And how many people do you need to sleep - just you, or you and a partner, or a whole wagon train?

If it's just one or two, and you like "cult" or "quirky" then an Eriba (various models between 500kg to 1000kg) or a T@B (around 500kg to 750kg) might be suitable.

If you want a box shaped van, then an older caravan model will be lighter in weight than current production models

Robert

 

[john_374376226]

Hi John,

Quote "just looked on a web site and it says

Kerb Weight KG 1195

85% Weight KG 1016

Max Towing Weight KG 1300

how do i work this all out?

i just cant work out what weight caravan to buy"

Assuming that what you have written or copied down is accurate, the important information is:

1. The maximum weight you can tow is 1300kg - but this comes with a warning:

2. Because you have a Renault (and they calculate this max tow weight differently from every other manufacturer), your maximum tow weight reduces as you load up the car.

3. So if you do make full use of the car's payload, then the maximum you can tow is Roger's calculation (maximum train weight minus maximum car weight) of 1125 kg - and this will be a safe working limit. This is a legal maximum.

4. As you are totally new to this - then the recommendation is to buy a caravan with a maximum weight no greater than 85% of the car's kerb-weight - which you reported as 1016kg. This is a recommended maximum (following good practice)

Summary:

You need to look for a caravan that has a maximum weight of very close to 1000kg (but never more than 1125kg), and hopefully an unladen weight of around 800kg or less...

And how many people do you need to sleep - just you, or you and a partner, or a whole wagon train?

If it's just one or two, and you like "cult" or "quirky" then an Eriba (various models between 500kg to 1000kg) or a T@B (around 500kg to 750kg) might be suitable.

If you want a box shaped van, then an older caravan model will be lighter in weight than current production models

Robert

thank you

 

[RogerL]

If the V5 for the car shows "Mass In Service 1300kg", that's the kerbweight to EC definition (there is another definition which will give a lighter figure).

For newcomers to caravanning, it's recommended that the actual weight of the caravan doesn't exceed 85% of the kerbweight - that's 1105kg laden weight, which fits nicely with the 1125kg I calculated earlier.

With only a couple of exceptions (Eriba being one) the payload allowance of caravans is quite restrictive so you should assume it'll tow at gross weight, referred to as MTPLM (Maximum Technically Permitted Laden Mass).

You need to be looking for a caravan up to about 900kg net / 1100kg gross. Caravans get heavier, year on year, by about 25kg so you'll have more chance of a good weight match if you avoid new ones.

 

[john_374376226]

If the V5 for the car shows "Mass In Service 1300kg", that's the kerbweight to EC definition (there is another definition which will give a lighter figure).

For newcomers to caravanning, it's recommended that the actual weight of the caravan doesn't exceed 85% of the kerbweight - that's 1105kg laden weight, which fits nicely with the 1125kg I calculated earlier.

With only a couple of exceptions (Eriba being one) the payload allowance of caravans is quite restrictive so you should assume it'll tow at gross weight, referred to as MTPLM (Maximum Technically Permitted Laden Mass).

You need to be looking for a caravan up to about 900kg net / 1100kg gross. Caravans get heavier, year on year, by about 25kg so you'll have more chance of a good weight match if you avoid new ones.

hi

well i just won a caravan on ebay

its a old one this is the weights

1st box:1100kg/ second: 75kg/ third: 880kg

what do you think