8’0” wide caravan with fixed bed under 1500kg MTPLM?

[Flatcoat]

Does such a thing exist? On the market now or recently? I can’t find anything but maybe there is or was something obscure I have missed?

 

[borderbilly]

Lunar Venus 570/4

 

[GUMPY]

Lunar Venus 570/4

Was that 8ft wide?

 

[borderbilly]

2.2m nearly 8ft wide 🤔

 

[Flatcoat]

2.2m is 7’3” or there abouts…… for clarity I am
Looking at new or upto 3 years old. And further help 8’0” is around 2.35m give or take.

 

[GUMPY]

2.2m is 7’3” or there abouts…… for clarity I am
Looking at new or upto 3 years old. And further help 8’0” is around 2.35m give or take.

Short change
8ft =2.438 metres
2.35 metres is 7ft 8.52 inches🫣😎😱

 

[Flatcoat]

Typo….. didn’t proof read my own post!

 

[Mel]

Possibly
Sprite major SB. About 1440 MPTLM and 8ft wide??
Mel

Used Swift Kudos 830 SB 2023 caravans for sale, Preston Caravans and Motorhomes, Lancashire | Caravanfinder

www.caravanfinder.co.uk

 

[Flatcoat]

It’s not 8’0” wide

 

[Flatcoat]

And the 8’0” wide version is over 1500kg

 

[Mel]

The link I posted to the one on Caravanfinder clearly says 8ft wide and under 1500kg. Are the published specs wrong?

 

[Mel]

Also this Bailey. Says it is 8ft wide and under 1500kg

Used Bailey Pegasus Grande Brindisi 2022 caravans for sale, Highbridge Caravans, Somerset | Caravanfinder

www.caravanfinder.co.uk

 

[Flatcoat]

I will check the specs but I think they are wrong. Pretty sure the Brindisi is around 1530.

 

[AndrewAventura]

In an 8' wide van I think that the Swift Challenger Grande 580 is going to be the lightest, but it's 1444kg MIRO and 1600kg MTPLM.

 

[Flatcoat]

The Bailey Brindisi is much lighter at 1539kg. So far the lightest 8’0” wide fixed bed I have found albeit still too heavy, and Bailey no longer offer to downplate their vans.

 

[otherclive]

The Bailey Brindisi is much lighter at 1539kg. So far the lightest 8’0” wide fixed bed I have found albeit still too heavy, and Bailey no longer offer to downplate their vans.

You don’t have to load it all the way to its MTPLM if you can cater for your overall luggage/payload in other ways. IE cut back, stow more in car, smaller swing etc.

 

[Flatcoat]

I know all that but try telling your insurer! And, the dealer refused to sell me a Brindisi because it is more than the cars tow weight limit.

 

[Lutz]

I know all that but try telling your insurer! And, the dealer refused to sell me a Brindisi because it is more than the cars tow weight limit.

The dealer obviously doesn't know what he is talking about. Not only, as Otherclive says, do you not have to load the caravan up to its MTPLM in order to stay within the car's towing limit, but the towing limit isn't a legal limit, either. There's absolutely no reason for an insurer to object to such a combination.

 

[Flatcoat]

Not one dealer I have contacted will sell me any van with an MTPLM above the cars limit. Their public liability insurers will not allow them, allegedly.

 

[otherclive]

Not one dealer I have contacted will sell me any van with an MTPLM above the cars limit. Their public liability insurers will not allow them, allegedly.

Tell them it’s going on a seasonal and arrange for it to be collected by a friend or towing agent with suitable vehicle.

 

[Lutz]

Not one dealer I have contacted will sell me any van with an MTPLM above the cars limit. Their public liability insurers will not allow them, allegedly.

You should ask them to point to the source of any such restriction in related legislation. They'll have a hard time to be able to provide any written proof.

 

[otherclive]

Would a dealer allow you to have it down rated after purchase but pre acceptance. SVTech are a well respected company that do down plating for a range of vehicles including caravans.

https://www.svtech.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/Caravan-Form.doc

 

[Lutz]

Would a dealer allow you to have it down rated after purchase but pre acceptance. SVTech are a well respected company that do down plating for a range of vehicles including caravans.

https://www.svtech.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/Caravan-Form.doc

That should only be a purely hypothetical question as it would be an unnecessary way to go and would involve unnecessary costs.

 

[otherclive]

That should only be a purely hypothetical question as it would be an unnecessary way to go and would involve unnecessary costs.

I know that but the OP seems to have hit an impasse with dealerships. Another hypothetical one would be buy pre owned privately and transfer warranty. Alternatively buy a caravan more in keeping with the cars towing specifications that will satisfy a dealership. I don’t know if they are applying the 85% guide or what criteria is being applied. I’ve had three cars where the max tow limit was much higher than the cars weight. disco2, Sorento 1, and SWB Pajero.,

 

[Lutz]

It seems as if those with whom the OP was dealing objected solely because the MTPLM of the caravan is higher than the car's towload limit and the car's weight didn't play any part in the discussion.