A World of Ads

Sam Vimes

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It seems to me that advertising is getting more and more invasive in our lives. Of course a lot of the things we take for granted as being free are actually paid for by the advertisers or by the data collected from us and sold on to companies that want to push - yes, more personalised ads to us.

Over the years I've done my best to avoid much in the way of any service that inflicts mind numbing adverts on us. We block them as best we can when surfing the Interweb; gave up on television - equally because the program content was getting dire - just how many reality tv programs can there be; well they're cheap to make I guess. Emails never get junk or spam unless its something we've specifically signed up for - not the spam I should add. Don't get much actual real junk mail - but the mail box is right next to the recycling bin fortunately.

Now its the Radio that we've had to change. Since it came on air we've listened to Classicfm. To be honest its mostly just background music, not actually sitting down to listen to it specifically. It has adverts but until recently they've been not much of a problem. Since its in the background we don't pay much attention, not only that most of them are of poor quality audio and hearing defficiencies take care to filter out much.

Over the last few weeks we've noticed that the advert periods on ClassicFm have become more frequent and longer. Also the presenters are becoming more obnoxious - why do they have to keep telling us who they are every few minutes.

So we've ditched Classicfm and take all the classical music we have, put it onto a memory stick and have a random selection playing back.

Interesting to note that it would seem that the station is losing a good number of listeners - but I've always wondered how they actually know. Also one of the ads is about advertsing on the radio as its 49% more affective - doesn't say more affective than what!

Just in passing there's book I read years ago. It came out in 1952 and is called the Space Merchants by Fredrik Pohl and Cyril M Kornbluth. Read the plot on Wikipedia and it looks like it refers to today.


Enough rant for today.
 
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In addition I do question what these advertising "experts" are thinking of when they produce some TV ads, some of the cleaning product ads are, in my view, incredibly peurile and child like. Especially those for Flash and some of the plug in air fresheners.
 
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Strangely enough I spent two days last week transferring my BiLs CDs to my MAC. He had a phenomenal collection so now I’ve transferred all that we need, so I’d like to donate them along with my CDs to the local hospice charity.

The MAC sits upstairs but using Airdrop I can play them through the lounge soundbar, so no adverts whatsoever, and the music is totally our choice without egoistical presenters talking too much, or holding lengthy conversations with listeners. My kids and grandkids are all Spotify subcsibers, no adverts or presenters either, but £10.69 per month.
 
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What annoys me are the constant adverts on the BBC. I thought we paid the licence fee to avoid them on the Beeb.
They aren’t commercial adverts and they don’t interrupt your viewing of a programme. But as we record a lot of programmes from BBC or commercial channels they don’t bother us at all.
 
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JTQ

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For long now the Humax TV recorders give sterling services, only way to make commercial TV at all tenable.

In this vein, I can't understand why the programme providers think we all have only a few mintues attention span, probably because they are not confident in the attention holding of their content?

I don't do football, but do they there infuriatingly switch to adverts as a player with the ball runs to the goal, like they do with F1 during the interesting bits?
 
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The collective "you" pay for commercial channel ads by buying their products.

Whether we pay the licence fee to fund the BBC or it's funded from general taxation, it's all publicly funded so no real difference.
But I choose what products I buy. I have little choice but to pay the BBC licence fee. I guess I'll do what more and more people are doing and stop watching the BBC and cancel the licence.
 
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But I choose what products I buy. I have little choice but to pay the BBC licence fee. I guess I'll do what more and more people are doing and stop watching the BBC and cancel the licence.


You would also have to stop anything on BbC iplayer and on any of the BBC radio channels.
For an older generation this sounds radical but at least 2 of my now adult children never watch terrestrial TV. Instead they use the steaming channels. They get news via their phones. Apparently this is not unusual.
Mel
 
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You would also have to stop anything on BbC iplayer and on any of the BBC radio channels.
For an older generation this sounds radical but at least 2 of my now adult children never watch terrestrial TV. Instead they use the steaming channels. They get news via their phones. Apparently this is not unusual.
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Yes I'm aware of that. My children do the same. I've just cancelled the direct debit. Maybe as more people vote with their feet they'll change for the better.
 
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Yes I'm aware of that. My children do the same. I've just cancelled the direct debit. Maybe as more people vote with their feet they'll change for the better.
Being in a minority of one we don’t begrudge paying the licence fee for what it gives us both on tv, radio or streaming. Our only other subscriptions are basic Netflix which we rarely use, and Amazon Prime video which again comes with Amazon prime. Neither are a patch on the BBCs total offering. We also pay council tax for facilities we don’t use, but don’t moan about it.
 
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But I choose what products I buy. I have little choice but to pay the BBC licence fee. I guess I'll do what more and more people are doing and stop watching the BBC and cancel the licence.
You wouldn't have any choice if the BBC was funded from general taxation - just pay more Income Tax or whatever tax Rachael in accounts needed to increase.

The licence isn't just to watch BBC - it's to watch any live TV.

Without the publicly-funded BBC, the rest of commercial television would be a much lower standard.
 
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Being in a minority of one we don’t begrudge paying the licence fee for what it gives us both on tv, radio or streaming. Our only other subscriptions are basic Netflix which we rarely use, and Amazon Prime video which again comes with Amazon prime. Neither are a patch on the BBCs total offering. We also pay council tax for facilities we don’t use, but don’t moan about it.
You're not in a minority of one - we don't have Sky, Netflix or Prime, never seen any appeal in programmes they transmit - so the licence fee is the only thing we pay for news and entertainment.
 
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You wouldn't have any choice if the BBC was funded from general taxation - just pay more Income Tax or whatever tax Rachael in accounts needed to increase.

The licence isn't just to watch BBC - it's to watch any live TV.

Without the publicly-funded BBC, the rest of commercial television would be a much lower standard.
There's no need to watch live TV. You can stream everything except BBC. The BBC already has low standards as demonstrated by their misrepresentation on Panorama .
 

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You're not in a minority of one - we don't have Sky, Netflix or Prime, never seen any appeal in programmes they transmit - so the licence fee is the only thing we pay for news and entertainment.
Not even a minority of two, we are the same so that's three households.

Spending time in the US gives an insight quite how dreadful and parochial TV can sink, the BBC has to endure if only to fend the UK from that.
 
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We've only got Freeview,we don't spend much time watching TV though,not impressed by BBC news either,due to lack of UK news and too much of a USA bias
 
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We have a Tv licence and virgin media package not much choice if your wife like watching BBC 1 Strictly Come Dancing , NCIS and True Crime .
 
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Sam Vimes

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You would also have to stop anything on BbC iplayer and on any of the BBC radio channels.
For an older generation this sounds radical but at least 2 of my now adult children never watch terrestrial TV. Instead they use the steaming channels. They get news via their phones. Apparently this is not unusual.
Mel
You don't need a license to listen to or download BBC Sounds Radio.
 

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There's no need to watch live TV. You can stream everything except BBC. The BBC already has low standards as demonstrated by their misrepresentation on Panorama .
This is what the Licence people state:-

You need a TV Licence if you:

  • watch or record live TV on any channel or service
  • use BBC iPlayer

You may be able to get a free or discounted TV Licence if you’re 75 or over and get Pension Credit, or if you’re blind or in residential care.

You do not need a TV Licence to watch:

  • streaming services like Netflix and Disney Plus
  • on-demand TV through services like All 4 and Amazon Prime Video
  • videos on websites like YouTube
  • videos or DVDs

So being pedantic BBC programs that are repeats or pre-recorded would appear to be license free over the air.

I've always question what constitutes live - because by the time it gets to me its probably a few milleseconds later :)
 
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And what happens to you if you get caught with no licence? Will they release more criminals from the jail, so they can put you in?
 

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