Ta Stinky, I just do not know what i have said to Patricia in the past. I cannot remember insulting her personally, in fact i don't ever remember insulting anyone personally. Seems like some people have it in for you if you do meet their idea of conformity. Would it help Patricia if I was a down & out, illegal immigrant, blind, deaf with one leg and gay? There now you have more ammo to have a go at me, must be something else in there you don't agree with!