Hi Linda, thanks for the reply. However, if you check out the C.C&C. site it sounds like it is still the original site they have always run which was not a particularly well developed site on an uneven field. The CC site was next door, then there was another big site which I think was the FC owned site. If it wasn't I would like details as I wouldn't mind an overnight visit or two.However, I don't want to join the CC & C for the use of their site for just two days( It's members only)