Are you sitting down?

[Surfer]

All of you out there in the UK and across the globe who have fought so hard to tackle the hideous enemy of our planet, namely carbon emissions, you know ....that bogus god you worship of "Climate Change" or "global warming" ....well, I feel it is necessary to inform you of some bad news. It really does pain me to have to bring you this disappointing information.

Are you sitting down?

Okay, here's the bombshell. The current volcanic eruption going on in Iceland, since its first spewing of volcanic ash this past week, has, to this point, NEGATED EVERY SINGLE EFFORT you have made in the past five years to control CO2 emissions on our planet.

I know, I know.... (group hug)...it's very disheartening to realize that all of the carbon emission savings you have accomplished while suffering the inconvenience and expense of: driving Prius hybrids, buying fabric grocery bags, sitting up till midnight to finish your kid's "The Green Revolution" science project, throwing out all of your non-green cleaning supplies, using only two squares of toilet paper, putting a brick in your toilet tank reservoir, selling your 4 x4, going on holiday to a city park instead of Lands End, nearly getting hit every day on your bicycle, replacing all of your £1 light bulbs with £5 energy saving light bulbs ...well, all of those things you have done have all gone down the tubes in just four days.

The volcanic ash emitted into the Earth's atmosphere in the past four days has totally erased every single effort you have made to reduce the evil beast, carbon.

I'm so sorry. And I do wish I had a silver lining to this volanic ash cloud, but hey, grab a Coke, give the world a hug and have a nice day!

Oh and don't forget all thsoe extra taxes imposed on us in the name of carbon emissions!

 

[xtrailman]

Just illustrates how futile it is to fight the might of NATURE, just another natural occurrence, called climate change.

Now as for man made oil leaks?

 

[Lutz]

What are you trying to tell us? Surely not an incentive to throw as much muck into the air because nature is doing it already? Turning the argument the other way round, one could also say that we should make all the more effort not to add to something that we have no control over and aggravate the situation even further.

 

[xtrailman]

There is a practical reason for going the hybrid route Lutz, we are running out of oil, nothing to do with emissions. Our leaders are simply cashing in on the need to move from fossil fuels.

I for one have had enough of being screwed through taxation!

 

[Surfer]

I am trying to tell you that for years we have been hoodwinked and over taxed by various governments on the dangers of Carbon emissions.

Now we have a volcano that since it became active has spewed more carbon emissions into the atmosphere than mankind has in the past 100 years.

I believe in recycling but not the carbon emmission rubbish fed to us by various governments as an excuse to tax us. If you check back about 15 to 20 years, the tax on fuel was supposed to be an environmental tax but have you seen public transport improve?

It is cheaper for us as a couple to drive into town than it is for us to use the bus. This carbon emmission thing is a load of tosh and has always been since some ministry thought up an excuse to tax us even more.

Makes me wonder if the party that is elected after the election is going to try and sue carbon emmissions as an excsue to increase taxes now that we have proof that the figures have been manipulated for the past 10 to 15 years as per the University of Anglia debacle.

 

[Wendy-Norfolk]

If one of the world largest active volcanoes were to explode, it could send the earth into a second ice age - according to the volcano programme on TV on Saturday afternoon!!

 

[Martin24]

can we make that a CHERRY COKE please!

 

[Pat_374304630]

I'll have a lager

 

[emmerson2]

I have to agree with Ray and Ian. When it comes to a battle between puny little man and Mother nature, its no contest.

 

[602]

the tax on fuel was supposed to be an environmental tax but have you seen public transport improve?

Hi,

Totally OT ...... but when parking meters were first intoduced into Croydon, we were promised that the proceeds would be used to build more off-street car-parks.

602

 

[John_374564913]

I am totally against paying any taxes for Global Warming as it is the biggest con ever introduced.

For the following reason under Yellow Stone park in America is the biggest Volcano know to man

The authorities know it will erupt and can do nothing to change that fact when it does it will send two thirds of the World back to the Ice age.

So what is the point in paying taxes for climate change as no amount of money in this world can stop the Yellow Stone vulcano.

 

[ImaHeadaU]

"The current volcanic eruption going on in Iceland, since its first spewing of volcanic ash this past week, has, to this point, NEGATED EVERY SINGLE EFFORT you have made in the past five years to control CO2 emissions on our planet."

I'm not a scientist and don't pretend to understand these things very well but I'd like to see some scientific support for your above statement. I've heard and read these claims before but the only real data that I've been able to find doesn't support them.

I like to believe that may personal efforts are merely a small part of the general efforts that concerned people in various communities are making in order to improve things for us all.

"Iceland's Eyjafjoell volcano is emitting between 150,000 and 300,000 tonnes of carbon dioxide (CO2) per day, a figure placing it in the same emissions league as a small-to-medium European economy, experts said on Monday.

...

Extrapolated over a year, the emissions would place the volcano 47th to 75th in the world table of emitters on a country-by-country basis, according to a database at the World Resources Institute (WRI), which tracks environment and sustainable development.

A 47th ranking would place it above Austria, Belarus, Portugal, Ireland, Finland, Bulgaria, Sweden, Denmark and Switzerland, according to this list, which relates to 2005.

Experts stressed that the volcano contributed just a tiny amount -- less than a third of one percentage point -- of global emissions of greenhouse gases.

Total emissions by six heat-trapping gases in 2005 were more than 36 thousand million tonnes (36 gigatonnes) as measured in CO2, according to the WRI index." http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5iFlK7AFMG1W1EKOCEcsMnheg0oow

AFP Apr 19, 2010

Happy Trails!

ImaHeadaU

 

[Big S]

Is this just a rant Ian or do you have any evidence to back up your claim: "The current volcanic eruption going on in Iceland, since its first spewing of volcanic ash this past week, has, to this point, NEGATED EVERY SINGLE EFFORT you have made in the past five years to control CO2 emissions on our planet."

The true fact is that the eruption of the Eyjafjallajokull volcano is unlikely to have any significant impact on the climate but has caused a small fall in carbon emissions.

Estimates show that the CO2 emissions from the Eyjafjallajokull Volcano are very small when compared with the CO2 emissions from the aviation sector. In fact the CO2 savings caused by the reduced number of flights in Europe are more than ten times the CO2 emissions from the volcano.

Preliminary studies suggest that there has in fact been an improvement to air quality in the areas surrounding airports. More work is needed to determine whether this is due to the cancellation of flights, and/or the reduced road traffic to/from the airports.

Although large eruptions such as Mount Pinatubo in 1991 can spew out enough material to shade and cool the planet, recent activity in Iceland is very small in comparison. The ash cloud has not reached the high atmosphere, where it would have the most effect, and it contains little sulphur, which forms reflective droplets of sulphuric acid. The World Meteorological Organisation in Geneva says any cooling effect from Eyjafjallajokull will be "very insignificant".

A larger effect on the atmosphere, though still small in global terms, comes from the mass-grounding of European flights over the five/six day period. According to the Environmental Transport Association, the flight ban will have prevented the emission of some 2.8m tonnes of carbon dioxide since the first flights were grounded.

The volcanic eruption has released carbon dioxide, but the amount is dwarfed by the savings. Based on readings taken by scientists during the first phase of Eyjafjallajokull activity last month, the website Information is Beautiful calculated the volcano has emitted about 150,000 tonnes of CO2 each day. Worldwide, the US Geological Survey says volcanoes produce about 200m tonnes of carbon dioxide every year.

 

[JulieandStuart]

Will the ash have plugged the hole in the ozone layer?? Seems to be able to clog up aircraft engines so why not ozone holes ... seems logical to me.

 

[robert_374565247]

Will the ash have plugged the hole in the ozone layer?? Seems to be able to clog up aircraft engines so why not ozone holes ... seems logical to me.

did anybody see the proggramme on the quest channel showing the vast amounts of coal our power stations consume each day and consequently their emmisions. I was genuinly shocked at the amount of coal per hour consummed by these beasts just so I can sit here and converse with you. I cant remember the figures but they were extreme. Coal being imported from russia and china. I wouldnt mind betting the co2 immissions from all our coal fired power staions would soon match that of the small eruption in iceland.

Not going there for my shopping anymore!!!

 

[robert_374565247]

did anybody see the proggramme on the quest channel showing the vast amounts of coal our power stations consume each day and consequently their emmisions. I was genuinly shocked at the amount of coal per hour consummed by these beasts just so I can sit here and converse with you. I cant remember the figures but they were extreme. Coal being imported from russia and china. I wouldnt mind betting the co2 immissions from all our coal fired power staions would soon match that of the small eruption in iceland.

Not going there for my shopping anymore!!!

 

[Steve L]

Mother nature ha sthe upper hand here or is that the goverments with their cleverly disguised extra taxation plans that will change their BS from brown to green!!

We all do our bit to be environmentally concious and often feel satisfied that we are green thinkers.

I have re-used Lucozade bottles to use as fenders for my boat rather than buy new plastic purpose made ones, I have used a camera tripod to mount my satalite dish on rather than buy a new purpose made one, I bought a second hand fuel pump for my car rather than buy a new one when the old one failed after 199'000 miles.

Now I'm going to buy a 4th hand diesel estate car to replace my 13 year old car, which I'll recycle to someone else (sell secondhand).

Can you see the pattern?

Think about it?

Atb Steve L.

 

[Steve L]

Mother nature ha sthe upper hand here or is that the goverments with their cleverly disguised extra taxation plans that will change their BS from brown to green!!

We all do our bit to be environmentally concious and often feel satisfied that we are green thinkers.

I have re-used Lucozade bottles to use as fenders for my boat rather than buy new plastic purpose made ones, I have used a camera tripod to mount my satalite dish on rather than buy a new purpose made one, I bought a second hand fuel pump for my car rather than buy a new one when the old one failed after 199'000 miles.

Now I'm going to buy a 4th hand diesel estate car to replace my 13 year old car, which I'll recycle to someone else (sell secondhand).

Can you see the pattern?

Think about it?

Atb Steve L.

Thats right you've sussed it!!!!

I've worked my wotsits off for 33 years paying tax after b***dy tax and just can't afford to buy those brand new luxury good that cause the carbon out put's in the first place. I have to mend and make do just to survive.

Who am I?

Mr average, working class, self motivated, self employed, down trodden, looked down upon by the toffs, and generally ignorred by polititions until they want my vote to put them into a

 

[emmerson2]

Thats right you've sussed it!!!!

I've worked my wotsits off for 33 years paying tax after b***dy tax and just can't afford to buy those brand new luxury good that cause the carbon out put's in the first place. I have to mend and make do just to survive.

Who am I?

Mr average, working class, self motivated, self employed, down trodden, looked down upon by the toffs, and generally ignorred by polititions until they want my vote to put them into a

 

[Surfer]

Have people forgotten about Krakatoa which exploded in 1883 and it took nearly an hundred years for the dust from that explosion to settle?

What about the numerous other active volcanoes around the world each spewing tons of carbon into the atmosphere?

I may have posted sligtly incorrect figures regardoing the Icelandic volcano but if you read this article http://www.abc.net.au/environment/articles/2010/04/16//2874939.htm mankind produces just a fraction of what all the world's active volcanoes produce on any given day.

 

[Surfer]

Forgot to add either way this global warming thing is still a farce and an excuse to tax us even more! why don't governments try taxing motgher nature?

As per Steve I may drive a gas guzzling 4 x 4 but it is 13 years old and can be 98% recycled whereas a new car like a Prius does more environmental damage when being built than my 4 x 4.

In addition when a Prius or similar reaches the end of its life you can only recycle 85% or less of it due to the lead acid batteries.

 

[ImaHeadaU]

Ian,

You wrote "if you read this article http://www.abc.net.au/environment/articles/2010/04/16//2874939.htm mankind produces just a fraction of what all the world's active volcanoes produce on any given day."

That is not how I read the article you cite.

From the article. "Last year Ian Plimer asserted that the carbon dioxide coming from all the world's volcanoes was one of the major contributing factors to changes in atmospheric CO2.

"Over the past 250 years, humans have added just one part of CO2 in 10,000 to the atmosphere. One volcanic cough can do this in a day," he said.

Could Eyjafjallaj