Bailey Senator drum brakes

[James Pond]

Hi everyone

I hate asking, but on my phone I do not seem to have the forum search working. So apologies as I am sure this will have been covered.

I urgently need to know the drum size fitted to a 2009 Bailey Senator 6 California. I had a wheel fly off on Friday and the recovery people found the threads gone on both drums.

To order I am told I need the drums width INSIDE as well as the brake shoe width. Typical size would be say 200 mm and 51mm. But obviously I need to be sure.

ANY help very, very much appreciated. This was a scary experience and made much worse by the AA leaving us there for 14 hours, which is another thread for another day.

Many thanks
James

 

[otherclive]

Hi everyone

I hate asking, but on my phone I do not seem to have the forum search working. So apologies as I am sure this will have been covered.

I urgently need to know the drum size fitted to a 2009 Bailey Senator 6 California. I had a wheel fly off on Friday and the recovery people found the threads gone on both drums.

To order I am told I need the drums width INSIDE as well as the brake shoe width. Typical size would be say 200 mm and 51mm. But obviously I need to be sure.

ANY help very, very much appreciated. This was a scary experience and made much worse by the AA leaving us there for 14 hours, which is another thread for another day.

Many thanks
James

Try putting your phone to landscape. Mine doesn’t work in portrait mode. Sorry to hear of the wheel detachment. Have you tried Baileys sales site Prima, they may stock replacements suitable for your caravan.

 

[Mr Plodd]

Taking the drum off the other side and measuring it would be my solution.

 

[James Pond]

Taking the drum off the other side and measuring it would be my solution.

Yes, I should have said. I no longer have access to your the other side until the caravan is moved from where the recovery people put it. Once the near side is changed/fixed. I will then move it and do the other side.

Thanks anyway.

 

[James Pond]

Try putting your phone to landscape. Mine doesn’t work in portrait mode. Sorry to hear of the wheel detachment. Have you tried Baileys sales site Prima, they may stock replacements suitable for your caravan.

You are a star!! That works.

 

[Jcloughie]

With luck there will be be a ref number on the axle. From this Alko should be ably to identify your needs.

Also, you should find a number cast onto the drum. This can be used to identify it. But be sure to get the UK version as the European ones are machined for larger diameter wheel bolts.

If you don’t have access at the moment try phoning Alko UK

John

 

[birdman101]

Why not take the damaged one near side off if that side is accessible,and get measurements from that

 

[James Pond]

With luck there will be be a ref number on the axle. From this Alko should be ably to identify your needs.

Also, you should find a number cast onto the drum. This can be used to identify it. But be sure to get the UK version as the European ones are machined for larger diameter wheel bolts.

If you don’t have access at the moment try phoning Alko UK

John

Thanks John. But as previously posted, I don’t have access to the other side. I also cannot get to the axle as I am disabled and simply cannot get to it even if I wanted to. And as previously posted also, I cannot remove a wheel to get information from the drum without the risk of the wheel bolt not going back on rendering the caravan immovable.

 

[James Pond]

Why not take the damaged one near side off if that side is accessible,and get measurements from that

Please see previous answer to Mr Plodd. Thanks anyway

 

[Mel]

Can you get a local ( to wherever the van is) mobile technician to go and look it and advise you what you need?
Mel

 

[James Pond]

That is a good idea.

But I was hoping someone on here may have changed one and know this size.

I very much appreciate all the early responses thus far. What a great forum. I came to the right place clearly.

 

[toad a caravan]

On the older drum like I've got the size was incorporated in the casting,I don't know about the upto date drums though

 

[toad a caravan]

If I remember correctly it had 25050 or something like that on the casting,in real measurements that's 10"(drum size) 2""(shoe width) hence the 25050? MM

 

[Martin_E]

There will be a casting number 6 numbers


605121, 1366103, 583928, and 638624. These numbers can be found on the brake drum itself and are used to identify the specific drum type for replacement purposes.

 

[James Pond]

If I remember correctly it had 25050 or something like that on the casting,in real measurements that's 10"(drum size) 2""(shoe width) hence the 25050? MM

Love the user name!

The general consensus seems to be 2050 or 2051. That represents 200 mm internal width of drum and 50mm or 51mm width of shoes.

Looks as though I’ll have to get the drum off and see what is what. I was just hoping anyone on here with a similar caravan could tell me if they did the job. Which I do recommend as it seems I am far from the first person to lose a wheel from a moving caravan.

 

[James Pond]

There will be a casting number 6 numbers


605121, 1366103, 583928, and 638624. These numbers can be found on the brake drum itself and are used to identify the specific drum type for replacement purposes.

Thank you very much. Really helpful. Cheers.

 

[toad a caravan]

My son saw an incident on the M61/M60 last week where a wheel and caravan had parted company 😟

 

[toad a caravan]

Always a wise move to ensure wheel fixings are torque to manufacturers recommend settings

 

[James Pond]

Always a wise move to ensure wheel fixings are torque to manufacturers recommend settings

Problem is like caused by over tightening at garages when changing tyres. They like using air ratchets which stress the threads.

 

[James Pond]

Always a wise move to ensure wheel fixings are torque to manufacturers recommend settings

True. But when did you LAST check that?

 

[toad a caravan]

Before setting off,I do my all own mechanical maintenance, (1992 Abbey GTS 212)

 

[James Pond]

Fair enough.

 

[toad a caravan]

Alko axle info

 

[James Pond]

Alko axle infoView attachment 8992View attachment 8991

Thanks very much. I am very grateful.

 

[toad a caravan]

Anything for an easy life 😄👌