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Geoffry wrote:

Geist - I thought you advocated hefty German vans and in fact either had one or had ordered one? Why's that then?⇦br/>

I suppose, thinking about it, that my purchase of a caravan (even though I'm aware that doom is impending) is a swan song - a reprise, a final bow as the Fat Lady warbles her last few notes;)

I recall thinking, as I looked at the Geist in April this year, "Your days are numbered! - it won't be long before you are the most colossal of white elephants, a 1.5 tonne box requiring a substantial tow car in an age of escalating fuel costs and ever fiercer criticism from the beardie earth-lovers.

I *know* what it's all about, of course! - remember 'Tootles The Taxi', in the Ladybird series? - I read that when I was five or six (I was a precocious child with a reading age well in advance of my years - occasioned by the fact that my family was one of the seven in Britain not to own a TV set in the late 1950's ;

'Tootles' was (for those who don't know) a series of poems and illustrations featuring various vehicles found on Britain's roads in the 1950's - 'Bertie the Bulldozer', 'Maurice the milk-float', etc - and among that company was 'Coco the Caravan'!

"I'm Coco the caravan,

Towed by a car..... (forget the rest, but I'm sure others here can supply the missing lines;) but it ended:

"Windows with curtains,

A real home-from-home,

A warm friendly welcome

Wherever I roam'

Which deathless prose was accompanied by a picture of Coco (actually, a decidedly 1930's looking caravan) sited on a hill top at dusk - the sky a deep purple, clouds turned into fire by the last rays of the dying sun, and Coco spilling warmth and light into the gathering dusk from his (her?) open windows and door.

See? - I can recall that picture after nearly half a century! - such was the deep impression made on the mind of a young child who's parents were too poor to afford an indoor lavatory, much less a caravan and the car required to pull it!

All the money I have wasted on caravans in the last 20+ years is due solely to that book and the potency of it's illustrations.

In these insane days I could probably now sue the publishers for deeply rooted childhood emotional trauma, and recoup some of my losses ;)
 
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Geoffry wrote:

Geist - I thought you advocated hefty German vans and in fact either had one or had ordered one? Why's that then?⇦br/>

I suppose, thinking about it, that my purchase of a caravan (even though I'm aware that doom is impending) is a swan song - a reprise, a final bow as the Fat Lady warbles her last few notes;)

I recall thinking, as I looked at the Geist in April this year, "Your days are numbered! - it won't be long before you are the most colossal of white elephants, a 1.5 tonne box requiring a substantial tow car in an age of escalating fuel costs and ever fiercer criticism from the beardie earth-lovers.

I *know* what it's all about, of course! - remember 'Tootles The Taxi', in the Ladybird series? - I read that when I was five or six (I was a precocious child with a reading age well in advance of my years - occasioned by the fact that my family was one of the seven in Britain not to own a TV set in the late 1950's ;

'Tootles' was (for those who don't know) a series of poems and illustrations featuring various vehicles found on Britain's roads in the 1950's - 'Bertie the Bulldozer', 'Maurice the milk-float', etc - and among that company was 'Coco the Caravan'!

"I'm Coco the caravan,

Towed by a car..... (forget the rest, but I'm sure others here can supply the missing lines;) but it ended:

"Windows with curtains,

A real home-from-home,

A warm friendly welcome

Wherever I roam'

Which deathless prose was accompanied by a picture of Coco (actually, a decidedly 1930's looking caravan) sited on a hill top at dusk - the sky a deep purple, clouds turned into fire by the last rays of the dying sun, and Coco spilling warmth and light into the gathering dusk from his (her?) open windows and door.

See? - I can recall that picture after nearly half a century! - such was the deep impression made on the mind of a young child who's parents were too poor to afford an indoor lavatory, much less a caravan and the car required to pull it!

All the money I have wasted on caravans in the last 20+ years is due solely to that book and the potency of it's illustrations.

In these insane days I could probably now sue the publishers for deeply rooted childhood emotional trauma, and recoup some of my losses ;)
I think maybe you should focus more on the enjoyment you have had with your caravan.You hold my future in your hands.

For years I've been a wage slave dreaming of the day I could get my caravan and see the big Europe out there. Seeing new places, learning new languages, enjoying the wonderful pictures painted by people who can make paint do things I can only envy.

In the back of my mind are warm memories of the Cavalier I had as a young married man in the fabulous summer of 69 I think it was.Wife Mk II had never enjoyed the simple pleasures of caravanning and kept moving the carrot forward until "nearer retirement - when you'll have plenty of time to get value from it" - a very clever ploy! Also she doesnt like roughing it - so the dream has become progressively more expensive until she at last saw a caravan worthy of purchase - with hefty tow car to match. This is no longer a low cost whim.

I start reading caravan mags and this site and discover that all caravans leak. All British caravans fall to pieces the first time they are taken out. It sounds like most dealers dont want to know you after you've parted with the money. Dont go abroad as you are sure to get gassed by foreigners and dont go on Caravan Club sites as they are toffee nosed.

You seem to forecast the demise of caravanning due to the price of petrol. Against this I know that as I recently said big City money is going into buying up and upgrading caravan sites - driven by the aging population with time to spend and a certain amount of money to spend.I would have thought that the actual cost of fule when towing is relatively low. Its not as if one drives 30,000 a year when towing?!

I could argue that it is still greener than flights and does bring money into local shops and services rather than staying in hotels.

Before forecasting the death of the hobby - what about the apparent growth of the German caravan industry? Their vans seem to be bigger - possibly better built - but it seems to me that they are spending big money to get into the British market. If their industry is on a decline - why would they do that? It seems more likely to me that Tirus was either not well run or they were in a sector of the market that is declining?

Cheer me up - I have lived 40 odd years waiting to load up my caravan - to set off singing Valderee Valdera, and now I find that it is all going to end in tears!
 
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I think maybe you should focus more on the enjoyment you have had with your caravan.You hold my future in your hands.

For years I've been a wage slave dreaming of the day I could get my caravan and see the big Europe out there. Seeing new places, learning new languages, enjoying the wonderful pictures painted by people who can make paint do things I can only envy.

In the back of my mind are warm memories of the Cavalier I had as a young married man in the fabulous summer of 69 I think it was.Wife Mk II had never enjoyed the simple pleasures of caravanning and kept moving the carrot forward until "nearer retirement - when you'll have plenty of time to get value from it" - a very clever ploy! Also she doesnt like roughing it - so the dream has become progressively more expensive until she at last saw a caravan worthy of purchase - with hefty tow car to match. This is no longer a low cost whim.

I start reading caravan mags and this site and discover that all caravans leak. All British caravans fall to pieces the first time they are taken out. It sounds like most dealers dont want to know you after you've parted with the money. Dont go abroad as you are sure to get gassed by foreigners and dont go on Caravan Club sites as they are toffee nosed.

You seem to forecast the demise of caravanning due to the price of petrol. Against this I know that as I recently said big City money is going into buying up and upgrading caravan sites - driven by the aging population with time to spend and a certain amount of money to spend.I would have thought that the actual cost of fule when towing is relatively low. Its not as if one drives 30,000 a year when towing?!

I could argue that it is still greener than flights and does bring money into local shops and services rather than staying in hotels.

Before forecasting the death of the hobby - what about the apparent growth of the German caravan industry? Their vans seem to be bigger - possibly better built - but it seems to me that they are spending big money to get into the British market. If their industry is on a decline - why would they do that? It seems more likely to me that Tirus was either not well run or they were in a sector of the market that is declining?

Cheer me up - I have lived 40 odd years waiting to load up my caravan - to set off singing Valderee Valdera, and now I find that it is all going to end in tears!
I'm Hermann, the Hymer,

Towed by a car -

But, at
 

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