What about all the long knives i carry in the caravan???? bread knife, cheff knife and not to mention the meat/carving knife?
Will I be arrested when towing the caravan?
Will I be arrested when towing the caravan?
I'm sorry Parksy but we must have a different interpretation of 'outburst'.
I didn't see anyone falling out or arguing, just a statement made by the three posters which included myself.
If indeed you did have to 'answer emails from disgruntled forum members' which I can well believe all I can say is that they remind me of the pimply faced kids who were forever telling tales to their teacher about other members of their class :O)
I'm just glad they don't live next door to me ... heh! heh! heh!
I didn't see anyone falling out or arguing, just a statement made by the three posters which included myself.
If indeed you did have to 'answer emails from disgruntled forum members' which I can well believe all I can say is that they remind me of the pimply faced kids who were forever telling tales to their teacher about other members of their class :O)
I'm just glad they don't live next door to me ... heh! heh! heh!
Parksy
Moderator
I'll concede that 'outburst' might not have been the best way to put what I meant Lord B but for every genuinely held political conviction there are always going to be equally genuinely and sincerely held convictions which embrace exactly the opposite point of view.
I have tended to receive more emails when in times past some discussions have degenerated into real slanging matches or when extremely discriminatory or racist comments have appeared. Rather than being from pimply faced tell tale teachers pets they have often been from normal everyday caravanners who have been appalled that things had degenerated to such a degree or more worryingly from those on high at Haymarket Towers :0(
We live in interesting times, many of us are more engaged with the political process now than at any time previously because of news coverage and the tv debates.
This forum can't host sensible political discussion unfortunately, past happenings have proved that a reasonable politically based point can often sometimes lead to pictures from the Holocaust or of Nazi storm troopers appearing, people advocating the use of genocide and all the rest of it.
That's why we had the crackdown on political comments a while back and why we tend to remove even fairly innocent political comments now.
There were one or two who couldn't or wouldn't accept this and after repeated clashes (mainly with me)and warnings their membership of this forum was withdrawn permanently.
I have tended to receive more emails when in times past some discussions have degenerated into real slanging matches or when extremely discriminatory or racist comments have appeared. Rather than being from pimply faced tell tale teachers pets they have often been from normal everyday caravanners who have been appalled that things had degenerated to such a degree or more worryingly from those on high at Haymarket Towers :0(
We live in interesting times, many of us are more engaged with the political process now than at any time previously because of news coverage and the tv debates.
This forum can't host sensible political discussion unfortunately, past happenings have proved that a reasonable politically based point can often sometimes lead to pictures from the Holocaust or of Nazi storm troopers appearing, people advocating the use of genocide and all the rest of it.
That's why we had the crackdown on political comments a while back and why we tend to remove even fairly innocent political comments now.
There were one or two who couldn't or wouldn't accept this and after repeated clashes (mainly with me)and warnings their membership of this forum was withdrawn permanently.
Graham wrote,
What about all the long knives i carry in the caravan???? bread knife, cheff knife and not to mention the meat/carving knife?
You may get away with that, just!! But if you had a motorhome and they are in there with you then I'm afraid it could be a different
story...............
What about all the long knives i carry in the caravan???? bread knife, cheff knife and not to mention the meat/carving knife?
You may get away with that, just!! But if you had a motorhome and they are in there with you then I'm afraid it could be a different
story...............
note for LB. "swiss army knife" no way far to dangerous :O) however I do have a scalpel several razor blades a small sythe for the weeds and a now redundant 12in long razor sharp diving knife for waving at people throwing stones into the lake when I am fishing he,he,he.
where am I going well the first week will be at northam farm brean,somerset. second week on a CL near the "anglers paradise" complex in devon. third week well most of it at bude so her indoors can have a paddle in the sea, after that no idea as we have not booked anywhere "as usuall" but looe and st austell are favorite destination for later on.
where am I going well the first week will be at northam farm brean,somerset. second week on a CL near the "anglers paradise" complex in devon. third week well most of it at bude so her indoors can have a paddle in the sea, after that no idea as we have not booked anywhere "as usuall" but looe and st austell are favorite destination for later on.
Without knowing the full circumstances of this case it is difficult to make comment. I've been stopped in "routine checks" but have never had my car searched. Perhaps the driver's attitude or some other factor led the police to search the car and bring these charges. Most cars contain something that could be construed as an offensive weapon but we're not all arrested every time we go out.
Morning Parksy.
I was the "political 9.24am" yesterday. More of a history lesson than politics, I thought.
Haymarket Towers must of course remember their beloved God is one of the most political beasts born to this earth.
The corollary to me buying PC Mag may in some quarters be construed as supporting a political party! LOL! However no more from me, I'm glad I'm away on election day.
I have a mini Swiss knife , with the little scissors and tweezers. I bought my son one years ago; he too still carries it.
IMO everyone should be given one at birth.
Cheers
Dustydog
I was the "political 9.24am" yesterday. More of a history lesson than politics, I thought.
Haymarket Towers must of course remember their beloved God is one of the most political beasts born to this earth.
The corollary to me buying PC Mag may in some quarters be construed as supporting a political party! LOL! However no more from me, I'm glad I'm away on election day.
I have a mini Swiss knife , with the little scissors and tweezers. I bought my son one years ago; he too still carries it.
IMO everyone should be given one at birth.
Cheers
Dustydog
Quote Dusty .."I have a mini Swiss knife , with the little scissors and tweezers. IMO everyone should be given one at birth".
To cut their own umbilical cord I presume?
:O)
To cut their own umbilical cord I presume?
:O)
Parksy
Moderator
Nice one Lord B!
My father had what could be described as a forerunner of a Swiss army knife with a bit of a story behind it.
It had scissors, a file, several blades etc and he'd had it since the second world war.
He was serving with the Worcester regiment in the XIV army out in the jungles of Burma and when we were children he'd tell us stories about the snakes, bugs and life in the jungle.
He told us that his section were guarding a jungle path, hidden and unseen by a Japanese army patrol that came along.
My dad opened fire, his round found it's mark and the Japanese point man lay on the path dead some yards away.
The officer in charge ordered dad and his mate to check the body and to collect anything from the pockets of his victim.
This was the first time that my dad had shot a man and he told us that as they approached the body him and his oppo were scared stiff in case the Jap wasn't dead and he jumped up and attacked them.
When they were close it was evident that the Jap was indeed dead with half of his chest blown away and dad checked the dead mans pockets and collected the paybook, a wallet containing some money, photographs and a letter and this silver knife.
The mans effects were duly handed to the officer, the body was moved and the dead soldiers weapon was disabled and life continued for the young men who faced these horrors on a daily basis. Dad was a regular soldier and was out in Burma until 1947, two years after the war had ended and he came home, carried on as normal and when my mother died in 1953 he bought us up alone with no social services, just kind neighbours and relatives.
The officer had handed the knife back to my dad as a souvenir which he kept to his dying day, my younger brother has it now.
I can't help wondering what my dad would have made of this risk averse society that we seem to have become.
My father had what could be described as a forerunner of a Swiss army knife with a bit of a story behind it.
It had scissors, a file, several blades etc and he'd had it since the second world war.
He was serving with the Worcester regiment in the XIV army out in the jungles of Burma and when we were children he'd tell us stories about the snakes, bugs and life in the jungle.
He told us that his section were guarding a jungle path, hidden and unseen by a Japanese army patrol that came along.
My dad opened fire, his round found it's mark and the Japanese point man lay on the path dead some yards away.
The officer in charge ordered dad and his mate to check the body and to collect anything from the pockets of his victim.
This was the first time that my dad had shot a man and he told us that as they approached the body him and his oppo were scared stiff in case the Jap wasn't dead and he jumped up and attacked them.
When they were close it was evident that the Jap was indeed dead with half of his chest blown away and dad checked the dead mans pockets and collected the paybook, a wallet containing some money, photographs and a letter and this silver knife.
The mans effects were duly handed to the officer, the body was moved and the dead soldiers weapon was disabled and life continued for the young men who faced these horrors on a daily basis. Dad was a regular soldier and was out in Burma until 1947, two years after the war had ended and he came home, carried on as normal and when my mother died in 1953 he bought us up alone with no social services, just kind neighbours and relatives.
The officer had handed the knife back to my dad as a souvenir which he kept to his dying day, my younger brother has it now.
I can't help wondering what my dad would have made of this risk averse society that we seem to have become.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1266170/Disabled-caravanner-prosecuted-keeping-penknife-car-use-picnics.html
This is another report on the article.
This man should appeal, and change his useless solicitor.
As for the police officer who stopped him....with respect, you are the sort of officer who gets the police a very bad name. This man now has a criminal record...THANKS TO YOU.
I carry a hammer and a screwdriver inside my toolbox. Does that make me a criminal? I also carry a Leatherman type multi-knife in the glovebox. So what.
Absolutely bonkers.
This is another report on the article.
This man should appeal, and change his useless solicitor.
As for the police officer who stopped him....with respect, you are the sort of officer who gets the police a very bad name. This man now has a criminal record...THANKS TO YOU.
I carry a hammer and a screwdriver inside my toolbox. Does that make me a criminal? I also carry a Leatherman type multi-knife in the glovebox. So what.
Absolutely bonkers.
Letter in the Daily Telegraph this weekend whereby a caravanner was stopped for routine check and asked if he had any knives in the van. His reply was that there was a set of six knives and forks, carving knife, cheese knife, etc. The response was those knives are OK but was he carrying anything that could be used as a weapon that could cause injury or death. Makes one think of the madness of the PC brigade.
""but was he carrying anything that could be used as a weapon that could cause injury or death. Makes one think of the madness of the PC brigade.""
what do you mean colin like the mallet used to drive in the awning pegs or the screw pegs themselves plus all the awning poles. OH and not forgetting the gas bottle to make a bomb with.
what do you mean colin like the mallet used to drive in the awning pegs or the screw pegs themselves plus all the awning poles. OH and not forgetting the gas bottle to make a bomb with.
After all that Me and wife are going camping in a cave on Ben Nevis
Och Aye - going to hunt yon haggis
Och Aye - going to hunt yon haggis
H'mmmm.
Guess I will have to use plastic knives then Julia.
Surely I cant be arrested for THAT. Lol
Guess I will have to use plastic knives then Julia.
Surely I cant be arrested for THAT. Lol
Pete, you better check it is Haggis hunting season!!!
Unless you are going to eat it raw, you will need fire making equipment or a sharp flint so the mamby pamby brigade will still disapprove.
Unless you are going to eat it raw, you will need fire making equipment or a sharp flint so the mamby pamby brigade will still disapprove.
Nobody else has mentioned the fact, so I will, that there was a newspaper article that a police statement had been made that the knife in question was not a swiss army knife but rather was it a fearsome looking flick knife of some sort (a picture was shown) which the man, a known bad character, had wildly threatened - although not produced -to use on some individual. I rather gathered that the police statement (made I think by the Chief Constable) had been verified by the newspaper.
Look, all of you - I am getting REALLY miffed now.
Zafiral - Its all very well to tell me I can't use flints, (Negative vibes man - not good) without telling me what I CAN use legally.
How about two sticks ?
Julia - judging by your silence, its okay to go plastic. (Positive vibes)
AND
of course I have checked the haggis hunting season. The little swine have two legs shorter on one side than the other, so they can run round the hills while keeping level.
But I am smart - I chase them around the other way so they just fall over - and thats when I pounce.
I have found a nice cave near in the Trossachs. Its not got any leccie but it does have running hot thermal water nearby, and the views are stunning.
I am staying for a week, and I have bought an empty TV case with us so that we can take it in turns to create TV programmes while the other watches.
So long for now.
Zafiral - Its all very well to tell me I can't use flints, (Negative vibes man - not good) without telling me what I CAN use legally.
How about two sticks ?
Julia - judging by your silence, its okay to go plastic. (Positive vibes)
AND
of course I have checked the haggis hunting season. The little swine have two legs shorter on one side than the other, so they can run round the hills while keeping level.
But I am smart - I chase them around the other way so they just fall over - and thats when I pounce.
I have found a nice cave near in the Trossachs. Its not got any leccie but it does have running hot thermal water nearby, and the views are stunning.
I am staying for a week, and I have bought an empty TV case with us so that we can take it in turns to create TV programmes while the other watches.
So long for now.
Parksy
Moderator
Pete,
Depending if the right legs or the left legs are shorter, you may end up with an anti-clockwise haggis rather than a clockwise one - I've been told that the clockwise ones taste better
Jim
Depending if the right legs or the left legs are shorter, you may end up with an anti-clockwise haggis rather than a clockwise one - I've been told that the clockwise ones taste better
Jim
Leslie
If you do a forum search on here or scroll back a couple of pages you will see a post I further put on under the heading
Swiss army knife new evidence.
Our clever Mr Sprocket has put a link on there for the actual newspaper article.
Completely differant from the original media one written and thats why I have said "Lesson learned"
If you do a forum search on here or scroll back a couple of pages you will see a post I further put on under the heading
Swiss army knife new evidence.
Our clever Mr Sprocket has put a link on there for the actual newspaper article.
Completely differant from the original media one written and thats why I have said "Lesson learned"
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