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Calor propane cylinders

A quick bit of info please: - Do the Red propance calor cylinders come with a tap/valve already fitted? As all the regulators I can find have no tap/valve as part of the fitting?

Cheers Danny
 
All done and totally painless too. The chap at calor tells me that propane burns a bit hotter so is more economical than butane (?) We will see over the New Year when we go away.

Cheers

Danny
 
All done and totally painless too. The chap at calor tells me that propane burns a bit hotter so is more economical than butane (?) We will see over the New Year when we go away.

Cheers

Danny
My data shows that Propane burns with a flame temperature of 1980C and Butane 1991C, so butane is 11C hotter!
 
My reason for not using gas overnight is simply the fact that it could run out and I would have to change the bottle in the freezing cold as soon as I woke up.

Steve W
 
On my wifes part, a general distrust of gas and fear of CO. But the oil filled radiator works exceedingly well, my Buerstner van is very well insulated and we do not tend to use sites without EHU and a shower block as minimum, as we have young kids.
 
Hello Danny

Assuming you have a modern caravan (post 1990)then you gas space and water heater must be room sealed by law.

This means that the air intake for combustion, the flame and the entire flue tract has to be a continuous tube that only opens to the outside air.

Provide the heater has not been damaged or installed incorrectly, there is an incredibly low probability that the heater will add any CO or CO2 to the living space.

So you can reassure your wife about that fact.

It is therefore illogical to choose not to use one of these heaters during the night simply because of the possibility of CO.

If a heater produces CO during the night if it is left on, then it would also produce it during the day.

CO is a colourless and tasteless gas, and it is usually the case that anyone exposed to CO does not realise it, so being awake is no guarantee of detecting the presence of CO.

You will receive more CO from the use of your cooker, and smokers than you will from a properly adjusted room sealed heater.
 
I agree with his wife, it may be there is an incredibly low probability of CO, but you are relying on the exhaust tube being sealed against the burner 100% etc. Caravans do suffer a lot of vibration. Currently we can not use the gas part of our fridge on our 1 1/2 year old Elldis as we woke one night to an odd smell and the CO detector indicating a low level of CO. Its waiting to go in to be fixed.

A CO detector is a MUST.
 
On my wifes part, a general distrust of gas and fear of CO. But the oil filled radiator works exceedingly well, my Buerstner van is very well insulated and we do not tend to use sites without EHU and a shower block as minimum, as we have young kids.
We have a five year old and never have an EHU or any facilities beyond water tap and elsan point, when you have a young family it makes a huge difference only paying
 
Hello Chris.

If your heater has a flue leak that can affect you at night, then the heater must not be used at any time, as the same leak will affect you during daylight hours just as much.

A properly installed and maintained heater is as safe to use at any time of day or night.

It is of course a matter of personal choice whether yo use a gas heater at night, but if it is only because of the possibility of a flue leak then the logic of the decision is wrong.
 

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