I am in the middle of a deal to purchse a new Kia Sorento.I have been told by he garage that there isnt a detachable tow bar made for the Kia Sorento I know that thats nonsense but not the first porkie pie they have told me.They want to fit a standard fixed tow bar I dont have any problem with this.However, my question to this forum is will a fixed tow bar affect the rear sensors on the back of the car? I dont trust the dealer as he has been caught out telling porkie pies several times.Thank you in advance for any help you can give me.
Can anyone tell me ?
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Walk away and find a better dealer.
Why do you want to have anything to do with someone who you know has lied to you? What will the after sales service be like? one long battle, never knowing whether you are being told the truth.
Rather you than me.
Steve W
Why do you want to have anything to do with someone who you know has lied to you? What will the after sales service be like? one long battle, never knowing whether you are being told the truth.
Rather you than me.
Steve W
This isn't the way to start a relationship with a dealer - "telling porkie pies several times" - walk away.
Thank you for your reply.I agree that perhaps the dealer should be more professional.However. I live in Scotland and the dealer is in the Birmingham area and I will not have contact with the dealer after I take the new vehicle away.The reason Im dealing with this particular dealer is its financialy the best deal I have been offered by miles
Thank you for your quick reply the reason for dealing with this dealer is that he has offered the best deal by miles.I have now retired so its important to make every penny count.I live in Scotland and the dealer is in the Birmingham area.Once I take delivery of the new vehicle I wont be involved with them but with a local dealer in Scotland.
Robert normaly I would agree with you but in this case the deal they have offered me is the best finacialy by miles.I live in Scotland and the dealer is in the Birmingham area.Once I have taken delivery of the new vehicle I wont be dealing with the supplying dealer but I will deal with a local dealership.As im now retired I need to ensure im getting the best value from every pound.
Hi Gilbert
I was pitched next to a guy with a Sorento in October. He has rear sensors and swears by them, the towbar gave no problem. I know because my Sportage's senosrs do give problems and I asked him if his did. It's not the towbar on mine though looks as if mine are angled down slighlty and pick up cambers,curbs etc.. The dealer tried to tell me it was the towbar (which he fitted incidentally) but I proved it wasn't by removing ball and sockets, still the same.
If you do have sensors make sure a switch is fitted or they are wired such that when hitched as a rig you don't suffer vibrating ear drums.
Hope this helps.
Regards Tomo
I was pitched next to a guy with a Sorento in October. He has rear sensors and swears by them, the towbar gave no problem. I know because my Sportage's senosrs do give problems and I asked him if his did. It's not the towbar on mine though looks as if mine are angled down slighlty and pick up cambers,curbs etc.. The dealer tried to tell me it was the towbar (which he fitted incidentally) but I proved it wasn't by removing ball and sockets, still the same.
If you do have sensors make sure a switch is fitted or they are wired such that when hitched as a rig you don't suffer vibrating ear drums.
Hope this helps.
Regards Tomo
Hello Gilbert,I have not got a Kia but on my Skoda Octavia the ball is a compleat nuisance with rear sensor, i wish i had gone for the detachable one.
Gilbert,
I don't have a Kia but I have had a number of cars with the rear sensor/towbar combination. Issue with a towball being fitted has only ever occured where there is a sensor in the middle of the bumper ie right behing the towball. My current car has four bumper sensors fitted - two at the corners and two about 18ins right & left on the centre. As there's no sensor in the middle, I have no problems with the towbar as the 'cones' of the sensor beams aren't wide enough to see it.
If the car has a middle sensor - try putting your hand just in front of it. I'll bet it bleeps - which is exacly what will happen if there's a towball in the way.
If the car has multiple sensors (one of which is in the middle) you only have three choices -
1) Use the internal switch on the dashboard (if there us one) to turn off the sensors at all times and get a fixed towbar
2) Get a removable towball - and use the dashboard switch only when the towball is fitted
3) Ask the dealer if is is possible to disconnect the wiring to the centre sensor -leaving the others still connected. The sensors can still be left on with the towball connected at all times.
Eagle
I don't have a Kia but I have had a number of cars with the rear sensor/towbar combination. Issue with a towball being fitted has only ever occured where there is a sensor in the middle of the bumper ie right behing the towball. My current car has four bumper sensors fitted - two at the corners and two about 18ins right & left on the centre. As there's no sensor in the middle, I have no problems with the towbar as the 'cones' of the sensor beams aren't wide enough to see it.
If the car has a middle sensor - try putting your hand just in front of it. I'll bet it bleeps - which is exacly what will happen if there's a towball in the way.
If the car has multiple sensors (one of which is in the middle) you only have three choices -
1) Use the internal switch on the dashboard (if there us one) to turn off the sensors at all times and get a fixed towbar
2) Get a removable towball - and use the dashboard switch only when the towball is fitted
3) Ask the dealer if is is possible to disconnect the wiring to the centre sensor -leaving the others still connected. The sensors can still be left on with the towball connected at all times.
Eagle
Hi Tomo, I hadnt considered the sensors would activate when the caravan is hitched up I was only thinking they would pick up the tow ball when reversing solo.Thanks for the information Im going to contact the dealer. Gilbert.
As im now retired I need to ensure im getting the best value from every pound.
Hi Gilbert
I was suprised to see that comment & that you were buying a Sorento.
I was giving serious thought to buying a Sorento my self until I saw the fuel consumption.
It ticks all of the boxes when it comes to towing, but if as you say you want the best value from every pound there are better choices.
I am now looking at the 2.2 Santa Fe
Hi Gilbert
I was suprised to see that comment & that you were buying a Sorento.
I was giving serious thought to buying a Sorento my self until I saw the fuel consumption.
It ticks all of the boxes when it comes to towing, but if as you say you want the best value from every pound there are better choices.
I am now looking at the 2.2 Santa Fe
hello gilbert
just got a kia sorento , fitted with fixed towbar and sensors
i have no problem at all, great tow car only down side is fuel.
just got a kia sorento , fitted with fixed towbar and sensors
i have no problem at all, great tow car only down side is fuel.
Hi Sean, Thanks for your reply are you saying that the sensors dont come on when you are towing your van? or do you have an on off switch fitted? Ive notice many comments about poor fuel economy.However, I dont do a large milage probably about 9000 miles per annum I also have a very light right foot.Ever since I had my V.W.Camper van Ive missed sitting up high so Im prepared to accept the extra cost involved in running the Sorento.
no switch fitted, i think sensors are std kia, only tow once so far, frist day i collected it did about 60 miles down to norfolk tows great, i think it did about 23-24 mpg. only chq it once so far did 33mpg running about + trip to norfolk .mines a 06 56 2.5 xe . hope that helps you. sean.
have front and back sensors on galaxy,the fitter had to put sockets underneath the bar to avoid picking up.There is a switch on dash to cut sensors out when towing.I understand the genuine ford bar and socket automatically cuts out rear sensors when van is plugged in but you get pretty quick on the button when the bleeping starts
Hello Gilbert,
I am concerned that you are contemplating a long distance purchase.
Let me explain, when you make your purchase you are automatically afforded certain inviolable rights under the sale of Goods Acts. These relate specifically between you and your seller, and heaven forbid that you do have problems with the new car, but your warranty is definitely with the seller and no one else.
What you are relying on is the manufactures guarantee, which is different to your warranty. If you do have significant problems with the car, then your local dealer may be in his rights to refuse to deal with them, you may be forced to deal with your seller which means getting the car back to Birmingham.
Don't under estimate the costs of having to this, with fuel, accommodation, rail fares, time off work etc. it may well quickly offset the apparent good deal you have been offered - on top of that you have some reason to distrust the dealer involved. I bet you will receive much better attention if you purchase from the dealer that will be looking after the car.
I am concerned that you are contemplating a long distance purchase.
Let me explain, when you make your purchase you are automatically afforded certain inviolable rights under the sale of Goods Acts. These relate specifically between you and your seller, and heaven forbid that you do have problems with the new car, but your warranty is definitely with the seller and no one else.
What you are relying on is the manufactures guarantee, which is different to your warranty. If you do have significant problems with the car, then your local dealer may be in his rights to refuse to deal with them, you may be forced to deal with your seller which means getting the car back to Birmingham.
Don't under estimate the costs of having to this, with fuel, accommodation, rail fares, time off work etc. it may well quickly offset the apparent good deal you have been offered - on top of that you have some reason to distrust the dealer involved. I bet you will receive much better attention if you purchase from the dealer that will be looking after the car.
The Scenario described by John L re warranty work sounds more akin to a Caravan purchase than the purchase of a car.
I'm no legal expert but I thought you were covered to have a car repaired under warranty at an authorised dealer other than the original seller.
I've purchased 2 new cars online saving a total of
I'm no legal expert but I thought you were covered to have a car repaired under warranty at an authorised dealer other than the original seller.
I've purchased 2 new cars online saving a total of
Gilbert
Can I help, bought a 07 plate Sorento last year and we tow a Sterling Europa 495 it preforms absolutely perfect. I stretched as far as Belgium last year and all over North Scotland. I bought it as it was well recomended as a great tow car and it is
Fixed tow bar an all....
Can I help, bought a 07 plate Sorento last year and we tow a Sterling Europa 495 it preforms absolutely perfect. I stretched as far as Belgium last year and all over North Scotland. I bought it as it was well recomended as a great tow car and it is
Fixed tow bar an all....
Is there no a dealer in Paisley cant remeber its name......My mate bought a Sportage there no probs
I'd walk away and find a dealer near to your home as some garages not like taking on new cars purchased elsewhere
Spend a little extra now cost less in long term
Better the devil you know
Spend a little extra now cost less in long term
Better the devil you know
Iwould take the deal i got, to a deal in scotland iam sow there would match it or one better with car market slowing down.
Hi Gilbert
Consider this one very carefully. You say you are getting a good deal , does this counter the costs of your travel to and from Birmingham.
Also you say the dealer has lied , I'd be suspicious that the vehicle might be a lemon?
Argueable if it has got the Manufacturers warranty then a local dealer should carryout the work but they'd be looking after their direct customer first over you.
If its an aftermaker warranty then walk away. I had a used car warranty and it was a nightmare when it went wrong. Basically i had to pay for the repair and claim or take it back to the selling dealer who had the relationship with the warranty company (not all warranties are the same!!!!)
Can you afford to do that if say the gear box went? or fuel injectors (my Freelander had 4 go and it cost close on
Consider this one very carefully. You say you are getting a good deal , does this counter the costs of your travel to and from Birmingham.
Also you say the dealer has lied , I'd be suspicious that the vehicle might be a lemon?
Argueable if it has got the Manufacturers warranty then a local dealer should carryout the work but they'd be looking after their direct customer first over you.
If its an aftermaker warranty then walk away. I had a used car warranty and it was a nightmare when it went wrong. Basically i had to pay for the repair and claim or take it back to the selling dealer who had the relationship with the warranty company (not all warranties are the same!!!!)
Can you afford to do that if say the gear box went? or fuel injectors (my Freelander had 4 go and it cost close on
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