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EH52ARH said:
.....Last Tuesday Nipedup to Castleton iin Derbyshire, what a lovely place, went to the CMC site ......

Your right , it is a lovely sight as long as you don't get one of the pitches that backs onto the main road because we found that the motor bikes come round the corner and power up !!
 

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Not long ago I received several complaints from members about topics being hi-jacked and about irrelevant comments on the hi-jacked topics.
Some of the complainants hinted that they were prepared to stop using this forum because of the situation that had been developing for some time.
I took what action I could to restore forum equilibrium and all was well.
I was away in the caravan over the weekend and had only kept a cursory watch over the forum to deter spammers, but on closer inspection this morning I noticed that this thread had drifted quite a long way off topic.
I'm always reluctant to delete forum material, so in the interests of fairness and consistency I've moved the off topic comments with regard to the forthcoming 'Woosie' meet into the appropriate thread on the appropriate message board.
I don't want to come across as a thread Nazi because discussions can often range over various aspects of the subject under discussion, but please keep 'Woosie' related comments for the long running thread that deals with the Woosie topic.
 
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On the price of C&MC sites; I was surprised at the non-member supplement added to the total having never stayed at one of the club's sites before. My preferred independant site in Keswick was fully booked for the August B/H weekend, so was the C&CC club site (Am a member of C&CC), this kind of scuppered our plans as it was the first stop in a planned touring holiday. As there was availability at the C&MC site, joining the club to avoid the fee was a no-brainer. With a 'cash-back' website referral link, the membership paid for itself. The M6Toll discount will also be appreciated!
 
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EH52ARH said:
Last Tuesday Nipedup to Castleton iin Derbyshire, what a lovely place, went to the CMC site and asked how many "no shows " they get. Oh yes many. They book for the weekend and don't turn up. But it means that if I want to go from a Wednesday to Wednesday , I can't book as others have booked and don't turn up. They should have to pay a deposit. Grrrrrr.

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That has been a problem with this one and Rowntree Park for decades.
I don’t even bother looking now. Just a shame the Club have never realised there are people like us who just may wish to stay for a week rather than a weekend :silly: :blink:
 
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Just a shame the Club have never realised there are people like us who just may wish to stay for a week rather than a weekend

Exactly how I feel. That and a motorhome sans awning in the middle of the biggest pitch on site.
 
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Thingy said:
Just a shame the Club have never realised there are people like us who just may wish to stay for a week rather than a weekend

Exactly how I feel. That and a motorhome sans awning in the middle of the biggest pitch on site.
This happened to us last bank holiday at coniston park coppice,queue of us(working folk :whistle: ;) )at check in about 6.Head down to the best pitches in sunshine,full of retired folk hiding inside motor homes coz it's too hot. :angry:
Only 20 odd years and I can do same. :woohoo:
 
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Brasso530 said:
Thingy said:
Just a shame the Club have never realised there are people like us who just may wish to stay for a week rather than a weekend

Exactly how I feel. That and a motorhome sans awning in the middle of the biggest pitch on site.
This happened to us last bank holiday at coniston park coppice,queue of us(working folk :whistle: ;) )at check in about 6.Head down to the best pitches in sunshine,full of retired folk hiding inside motor homes coz it's too hot. :angry:
Only 20 odd years and I can do same. :woohoo:

So I guess it would have been okay if the pitches were occupied by retired folks in caravans then?
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OC retired 2000, aged 52 yrs.
 
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Oh ,no,some where in caravans.Dont get me wrong everyone's entitled to go where and when you want,but it's very annoying as a family when you finish work early leg it to site and someone who could go anytime is just finishing unpacking as you shoehorn your outfit into a shaded plot miles away.
This is not a gripe just an observation before I get a barrage of abuse :unsure:
 
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Had the same experience when I worked and without the benefit of seeing late vacancies online.
Be assured not all retirees have such freedom, in fact there are times when I yearn for the freedoms I had when at work before grandchildren and divorces arrived. Oh the chance just to bang in for some leave when a good forecast arrived. A nostalgic memory:)
 
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Be assured not all retirees have such freedom, in fact there are times when I yearn for the freedoms I had when at work before grandchildren

Oh yes, I have that Tee Shirt.
I do think people could be a little more considerate when picking a pitch if they arent using an awning. Different if its a large motorohome but some are the size of a Mr Whippy ice cream van and they seem to need a football pitch. Mind you, the one that used to drive me even madder was when I had been driving a 38 tonner for hours, running out of time on my Tacho, and pulling into the services for the night, find that the one free artic bay had a beep beep caravan in it. Never thought back then I would be a caravanner.

Brasso gets zero from ten for tact, but ten out of ten for courage. I would never have dared to attack the retired folk on this forum :cheer: :cheer: :cheer: :cheer: ;) :p
 
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Thingy,it's not aimed at the retired folk on here as you all go to cl sites and wouldn't be seen dead/or too tight to go on camc site :) :) :) :) :)
This is all typed tongue in cheek,and sat here giggling to myself as I type. :whistle:
 
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I can see the C and MC becoming the Motor home club. But is that a bad thing.. look at the club magazine more Motor home stuff all the time.
 
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EH52ARH said:
I can see the C and MC becoming the Motor home club. But is that a bad thing.. look at the club magazine more Motor home stuff all the time.

But that’s the way the world is going and the club like any commercial entity has to recognise the future trends. To their credit they have opened areas for camping to widen the customer base.

We stayed at Bracelands in the Forest of Dean in March and I remarked to my wife how very few tourers there were and of those the majority were on seasonal pitches and unused. Yet motor homes, campers and tent campers were actively coming and going.
 
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otherclive said:
EH52ARH said:
I can see the C and MC becoming the Motor home club. But is that a bad thing.. look at the club magazine more Motor home stuff all the time.

But that’s the way the world is going and the club like any commercial entity has to recognise the future trends. To their credit they have opened areas for camping to widen the customer base.

We stayed at Bracelands in the Forest of Dean in March and I remarked to my wife how very few tourers there were and of those the majority were on seasonal pitches and unused. Yet motor homes, campers and tent campers were actively coming and going.

OC, i have noticed it as well on Private sites as well, maybe the older folk like myself don't want to tow anymore , so get a MH. Rather than renew there licence, for above 3.5 tonne. Myself I will try and keep my licence valid and travel around our roundabouts in Milton Keynes with my caravan. :evil:
 
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otherclive said:
EH52ARH said:
I can see the C and MC becoming the Motor home club. But is that a bad thing.. look at the club magazine more Motor home stuff all the time.

But that’s the way the world is going and the club like any commercial entity has to recognise the future trends. To their credit they have opened areas for camping to widen the customer base.

We stayed at Bracelands in the Forest of Dean in March and I remarked to my wife how very few tourers there were and of those the majority were on seasonal pitches and unused. Yet motor homes, campers and tent campers were actively coming and going.

Which is similar to what i commented on whilst at Barnard Castle a while ago
 
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I've got to say the opposite,whilst away at coniston,80% tourers,20%motorhomes.All ages in both camps.
One thing that is slightly concerning,they were doing loads of work to the top couple of rows of pitches,I assumed they were upgrading to serviced pitches,no,I read they're putting in loads of pods.
 
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Maybe this from the NCC explains things.

The Caravan Industry in the UK:
contributes more than £6 billion p.a. to the UK economy (revenue from sales of products and related services, holiday bookings etc)
employs about 130,000 people, including part time and seasonal staff (mainly on parks)
Caravanning is an important contributor to UK tourism:
About £2 billion was spent on caravan holidays across Great Britain in 2016
In the region of 50 million nights are spent in caravans each year
In the UK, it is estimated that there are in current use:

555,000 touring caravans
365,000 caravan holiday homes
225,000 motorhomes
 

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Dustydog said:
Maybe this from the NCC explains things.

The Caravan Industry in the UK:
contributes more than £6 billion p.a. to the UK economy (revenue from sales of products and related services, holiday bookings etc)
employs about 130,000 people, including part time and seasonal staff (mainly on parks)
Caravanning is an important contributor to UK tourism:
About £2 billion was spent on caravan holidays across Great Britain in 2016
In the region of 50 million nights are spent in caravans each year
In the UK, it is estimated that there are in current use:

555,000 touring caravans
365,000 caravan holiday homes
225,000 motorhomes

True, but compared to Europe it’s little more than a niche market with some very strange and archaic rules dating back from the days when camping was effectively forbidden to deter gypsies.
The very low densities of UK sites thanks to the curios 6m rule makes sites near civilisation hideously expensive to own due to land prices . Suites the two big ‘clubs’ who don’t really do mass market, but puts a dead hand on the commercial sector who don’t want to be ‘reassuringly expensive’
 
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Hoomer said:
Dustydog said:
Maybe this from the NCC explains things.

The Caravan Industry in the UK:
contributes more than £6 billion p.a. to the UK economy (revenue from sales of products and related services, holiday bookings etc)
employs about 130,000 people, including part time and seasonal staff (mainly on parks)
Caravanning is an important contributor to UK tourism:
About £2 billion was spent on caravan holidays across Great Britain in 2016
In the region of 50 million nights are spent in caravans each year
In the UK, it is estimated that there are in current use:

555,000 touring caravans
365,000 caravan holiday homes
225,000 motorhomes

True, but compared to Europe it’s little more than a niche market with some very strange and archaic rules dating back from the days when camping was effectively forbidden to deter gypsies.
The very low densities of UK sites thanks to the curios 6m rule makes sites near civilisation hideously expensive to own due to land prices . Suites the two big ‘clubs’ who don’t really do mass market, but puts a dead hand on the commercial sector who don’t want to be ‘reassuringly expensive’

I’m having a bit of difficulty understanding your logic. Are you saying that you prefer sites where everyone is closer together?
One significant difference between UK and Europe is that our sites tend to have a much longer season March-Early Nov being commonplace with a goodly number being 11-12 months opening. Whereas in Europe a far higher percentage of sites have a much shorter season. The cost of managing, maintaining and heating UK sites is substantially greater over the annual period than it is in Europe. Even so off peak season the club sites still offer attractive rates. But the clubs like it or not do provide a wider support to the caravan, motor home and camping community. Nothing comes for free hence their commercial enterprises to support members and hopefully route profits back into the club endeavours. They are more than just purveyors of pitches.
 
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This crops up regularly. The clubs prices are possibly just above average but not unreasonably high. You will find comparable sites both cheaper and more expensive in most areas. I have tried to look at the average for sites in the magazine in several monthly issues a and the answer was always about average.
Cheaper sites tend to be family owned and staffed giving them a cost advantage of far lower overheads and less compliance with legislation but club sites always meet the standards we look for.
We used only one non club site in our recent tour and that was only slightly cheaper than the club site we normally used but only had 10 amp electrics.
 

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otherclive said:
Hoomer said:
Dustydog said:
Maybe this from the NCC explains things.

The Caravan Industry in the UK:
contributes more than £6 billion p.a. to the UK economy (revenue from sales of products and related services, holiday bookings etc)
employs about 130,000 people, including part time and seasonal staff (mainly on parks)
Caravanning is an important contributor to UK tourism:
About £2 billion was spent on caravan holidays across Great Britain in 2016
In the region of 50 million nights are spent in caravans each year
In the UK, it is estimated that there are in current use:

555,000 touring caravans
365,000 caravan holiday homes
225,000 motorhomes

True, but compared to Europe it’s little more than a niche market with some very strange and archaic rules dating back from the days when camping was effectively forbidden to deter gypsies.
The very low densities of UK sites thanks to the curios 6m rule makes sites near civilisation hideously expensive to own due to land prices . Suites the two big ‘clubs’ who don’t really do mass market, but puts a dead hand on the commercial sector who don’t want to be ‘reassuringly expensive’

I’m having a bit of difficulty understanding your logic. Are you saying that you prefer sites where everyone is closer together?
One significant difference between UK and Europe is that our sites tend to have a much longer season March-Early Nov being commonplace with a goodly number being 11-12 months opening. Whereas in Europe a far higher percentage of sites have a much shorter season. The cost of managing, maintaining and heating UK sites is substantially greater over the annual period than it is in Europe. Even so off peak season the club sites still offer attractive rates. But the clubs like it or not do provide a wider support to the caravan, motor home and camping community. Nothing comes for free hence their commercial enterprises to support members and hopefully route profits back into the club endeavours. They are more than just purveyors of pitches.

CC sites could easily double their density without ‘being too close together’ which seems to be a rather curious fear of British campers. That might also engender some atmosphere on their sites rather than self contained isolation as the curtain twitchers look suspiciously at anyone parking near them - let alone children!

They are expensive, very hard to book off the cuff, and have little more than a toilet block as ‘facilities’. They may portray themselves as up market, but they really aren't - with the constant noise of the little orange tractors waging a relentless war on the grass.
And the cost argument? A couple of staff vs a dozen or so? Perhaps if the two clubs came into the 20th, let alone the 21st century and offered sone value added facilities such as bars and restaurants, they would actually be able to run the sites much more cheaply.
 
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Hoomer said:
otherclive said:
Hoomer said:
Dustydog said:
Maybe this from the NCC explains things.

The Caravan Industry in the UK:
contributes more than £6 billion p.a. to the UK economy (revenue from sales of products and related services, holiday bookings etc)
employs about 130,000 people, including part time and seasonal staff (mainly on parks)
Caravanning is an important contributor to UK tourism:
About £2 billion was spent on caravan holidays across Great Britain in 2016
In the region of 50 million nights are spent in caravans each year
In the UK, it is estimated that there are in current use:

555,000 touring caravans
365,000 caravan holiday homes
225,000 motorhomes

True, but compared to Europe it’s little more than a niche market with some very strange and archaic rules dating back from the days when camping was effectively forbidden to deter gypsies.
The very low densities of UK sites thanks to the curios 6m rule makes sites near civilisation hideously expensive to own due to land prices . Suites the two big ‘clubs’ who don’t really do mass market, but puts a dead hand on the commercial sector who don’t want to be ‘reassuringly expensive’

I’m having a bit of difficulty understanding your logic. Are you saying that you prefer sites where everyone is closer together?
One significant difference between UK and Europe is that our sites tend to have a much longer season March-Early Nov being commonplace with a goodly number being 11-12 months opening. Whereas in Europe a far higher percentage of sites have a much shorter season. The cost of managing, maintaining and heating UK sites is substantially greater over the annual period than it is in Europe. Even so off peak season the club sites still offer attractive rates. But the clubs like it or not do provide a wider support to the caravan, motor home and camping community. Nothing comes for free hence their commercial enterprises to support members and hopefully route profits back into the club endeavours. They are more than just purveyors of pitches.

CC sites could easily double their density without ‘being too close together’ which seems to be a rather curious fear of British campers. That might also engender some atmosphere on their sites rather than self contained isolation as the curtain twitchers look suspiciously at anyone parking near them - let alone children!

They are expensive, very hard to book off the cuff, and have little more than a toilet block as ‘facilities’. They may portray themselves as up market, but they really aren't - with the constant noise of the little orange tractors waging a relentless war on the grass.
And the cost argument? A couple of staff vs a dozen or so? Perhaps if the two clubs came into the 20th, let alone the 21st century and offered sone value added facilities such as bars and restaurants, they would actually be able to run the sites much more cheaply.

As if that'll happen !
 
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Craigyoung said:
Hoomer said:
otherclive said:
Hoomer said:
Dustydog said:
Maybe this from the NCC explains things.

The Caravan Industry in the UK:
contributes more than £6 billion p.a. to the UK economy (revenue from sales of products and related services, holiday bookings etc)
employs about 130,000 people, including part time and seasonal staff (mainly on parks)
Caravanning is an important contributor to UK tourism:
About £2 billion was spent on caravan holidays across Great Britain in 2016
In the region of 50 million nights are spent in caravans each year
In the UK, it is estimated that there are in current use:

555,000 touring caravans
365,000 caravan holiday homes
225,000 motorhomes

True, but compared to Europe it’s little more than a niche market with some very strange and archaic rules dating back from the days when camping was effectively forbidden to deter gypsies.
The very low densities of UK sites thanks to the curios 6m rule makes sites near civilisation hideously expensive to own due to land prices . Suites the two big ‘clubs’ who don’t really do mass market, but puts a dead hand on the commercial sector who don’t want to be ‘reassuringly expensive’

I’m having a bit of difficulty understanding your logic. Are you saying that you prefer sites where everyone is closer together?
One significant difference between UK and Europe is that our sites tend to have a much longer season March-Early Nov being commonplace with a goodly number being 11-12 months opening. Whereas in Europe a far higher percentage of sites have a much shorter season. The cost of managing, maintaining and heating UK sites is substantially greater over the annual period than it is in Europe. Even so off peak season the club sites still offer attractive rates. But the clubs like it or not do provide a wider support to the caravan, motor home and camping community. Nothing comes for free hence their commercial enterprises to support members and hopefully route profits back into the club endeavours. They are more than just purveyors of pitches.

CC sites could easily double their density without ‘being too close together’ which seems to be a rather curious fear of British campers. That might also engender some atmosphere on their sites rather than self contained isolation as the curtain twitchers look suspiciously at anyone parking near them - let alone children!

They are expensive, very hard to book off the cuff, and have little more than a toilet block as ‘facilities’. They may portray themselves as up market, but they really aren't - with the constant noise of the little orange tractors waging a relentless war on the grass.
And the cost argument? A couple of staff vs a dozen or so? Perhaps if the two clubs came into the 20th, let alone the 21st century and offered sone value added facilities such as bars and restaurants, they would actually be able to run the sites much more cheaply.

As if that'll happen !

If you look it is beginning to happen but it is a delicate process to balance the cost of installing bars and restaurants that pay their way. But if people want those facilities and want to be shoulder to shoulder with their neighbours why just not go commercial. There’s a lot of alternative choices out there. For us we like the choices available from the two clubs including the CS/CL but do go commercial as well but to quiet sites preferably with some nice local pubs.
 
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If bars and restaurants start to become part of the fixtures and fittings on CC sites, that will be my cue to leave. I purposely avoid those sites. Its the typical British male that will stand next to his mate all night at the bar in companionable silence, then want a two hour conversation with the same guy right outside the caravan.

I like a drink as much as the next man, but I would sooner go off site and find a country pub.
 

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