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I'm considering fitting a tuning chip to my 2 litre, 90 bhp diesel Picasso. Are these chips worthwhile, and does anyone have any personal experience or tips that they could pass on?

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John
 
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john im sorry to be cheeky but i am thinkimg of buying a picaso diesel and i have asked in the general section for any info on this car as a tow car.Irealy would appreciate any advise on how it tows .Iwill also follow with interest any replys yuo get on the chip
 
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We had our Picasso diesel chipped a few years ago and it improved torque by about 20% .The guy who did it is at Blackpool and advertises in Diesel car etc.

He re-writes the engine management chip so nothing is visible to the naked eye or insurance assessor if you follow me.You should really inform your insurer.The Picasso towed really well (Bailey Pageant Magenta) but I could not get on with the blind spot created by the double screen pillars and after a few near misses we got rid.Probably just me !!!
 
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Before you chip your engine, be aware that you will almost certainly invalidate your warrantee - if you are still within the warrantee period, of course. The chip will re-map the engines ECU (the computer that controls things like fuel injected, air intake and engine revs). The engine will perform in a completely different way and the net result is that you can get close to 110bhp output from the same engine. But there is a cost; fuel economy being one of them. The other cost is the additional stress that the engine will be under (hence the warrantee concerns). Don't expect the engine to last as long or be as reliable. If the engine, in its present format, was designed for 110bhp then I am sure Citroen would have built it that way instead of going to the expense of developing a totally new engine for the 1.6HDi. This is an aluminium 16 valve engine with a different turbo charger that is small enough to accommodate an intercooler under the bonnet, hence the 110bhp output. You also have to consider the additional load that a more powerful chipped engine will put on the rest of the car, especially brakes, steering and suspension. They were all designed for a 90bhp version so beware. You might also like to take the advice of your insurance company as, of course, chipping an engine is a major modification. My 2.0HDi isn't chipped; I tow a caravan quite comfortably at 34mpg, I drive solo at 50+mpg (lower if all my driving is around town), I can do 70 - 80mph quite happily (if illegally) from London to Bristol and back again and would achieve even higher speeds if the blasted speedo wasn't right in the middle where my co-pilot can monitor my driving and make her wifely observations. It's your car so do as you wish, but take a lot more advice before you go down the chip shop.
 
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I would not entertain any form of tuning, invisible or not, without getting insurance co approval in writing.If you hit a wing off you will probably get away with it. In the event of serious incident, trust me, the insurance co will detect, and reject claim.
 
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Hi just joined this forum page, and finding the threads very informative, as relatively new to Caravanning.

I have a 'chip' or tuning box fitted to my 19997 VW Golf TDI GL. It has improved the brake horsepower from 90 up to approx 120bhp. I also got fitted a free flow air filter at the same time which helped.

My tuning box is fitted in minutes, I just have to remove a multi connector from the fuel pump, plug the tuning box into it, then place the old connector into the new tuning box one. Adjustments on the tuning box are via a small screw, to fine tune the car, It takes about 5 minutes all told.

The performance is unbelievable, I feel as though I am driving a 'GTI' now,I have lost probably no more than 2mpg on fuel returns, but the pull through the gears is remarkable now.

Unfortunately I am having to change the car, as I have purchased a larger van and my Golf wont pull it, so I am getting a Mondeo estate 128bhp shortly.

I bought my 'tuning box' from Dragon performance off 'Ebay' for
 
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JohnG is the only one who mentions Torque which is what you need to pull a caravan and not so much BHP. What I thought 'chipping' could do for the caravanner was to alter the point at which maximum torque was delivered to provide a better performance at towing speeds?. While I agree that getting more power out of an engine puts more strain on it..that would be only if you use it to the limit of that extra power?. Given normal towing speeds a more powerful engine will be working less hard than the same engine unaltered... provided it is tuned to suit your needs and not top end speed.
 
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Hi all,bought a 51 reg Picasso last Saturday,90bhp HDI.Went to Vanaaken Performance today,22nd had a smart box fitted.Gone from 90bhp and 150lb/ft tourqe to 111bhp and 182lb/ft.Only live half hour from premises but the drive home was totaly different,car is much more flexible and pulls strongly in 4th and 5th gears,great fun at the traffic lights too!Before you say anything,have informed my insurance and its gone up by
 

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