Courtesy to other road users.

[Lord Braykewynde]

When travelling home from Rhayader on Monday I came up behind a queue of traffic being held up by a caravan. After a few miles I had collected a few behind me so at the next opportunity I pulled in to let them pass giving them more chance to get past the caravan in front. Within minutes I caught up again with the cavalcade, the driver in his shiney 4x4 towing his shiney T/A totally oblivious to the tailback behind him. Between this point and Builth Wells my wife counted five lay-bys he could have pulled in. In 7 miles only one car had managed to overtake him. Thankfully at Builth he turned right for Llandovery.

Surely it's only courteous to pull in when safe to do so to let others by. No wonder we have a bad name with the majority of road users.

 

[BrianStAlbans]

Hi Lord B,I'm sure your description of the shiney 4x4 and TA was only an observation and not a judgement ;O)

I drive a larger outfit,which although getting on a bit now still manages a twinkle on a sunny day . It is sad that some don't think of those behind them especially if there lay bys available but oftain I find that it is the person behind who is to blame as they are unwilling/incapable of overtaking. We all know that as the second car behind we would all be capable of getting past ;O)

Also with a larger outfit sometimes you have to make a judgment on some lay bys on 1) whether you will fit in and 2) whether you will be able to rejoin the traffic safely.

Of course if they were large enough they should have pulled in as a matter on courtesy.

Brian.

 

[Lord Braykewynde]

Hi Lord B,I'm sure your description of the shiney 4x4 and TA was only an observation and not a judgement ;O)

I drive a larger outfit,which although getting on a bit now still manages a twinkle on a sunny day . It is sad that some don't think of those behind them especially if there lay bys available but oftain I find that it is the person behind who is to blame as they are unwilling/incapable of overtaking. We all know that as the second car behind we would all be capable of getting past ;O)

Also with a larger outfit sometimes you have to make a judgment on some lay bys on 1) whether you will fit in and 2) whether you will be able to rejoin the traffic safely.

Of course if they were large enough they should have pulled in as a matter on courtesy.

Brian.

Not at all Brian, I could have described it as an old classic Royalle towed by a Humber Sceptre and then it might have been understandable why it was slow. Again if I had described it as that I would have been telling lies :O)

 

[Lord Braykewynde]

They were well signposted lay-bys with ample room and it wasn't as if he had to make a sudden decision. Your comment regarding twinkle probably had something to do with it. He was so busy looking in his rear view mirrors at his twinkle that he didn't foist his vision a little farther behind at the traffic snaking behind him.

My wife asked a work colleague, who also has a caravan, if her hubby ever pulled in for others to overtake. Her reply was "no, not that I've ever noticed".

 

[allen1]

It is frustrating, but ive been stuck behind buses, council bin trucks,tractors full of sugarbeet,and do they pull into lay-bys no!are they followed by a meastro with a little old lady with a big hat yes and all at 35 mph or less,and Im at the rear of the queue with my shiny t/a and shiny mpv.Courtesy to other road users is being shown less and less these days.

 

[Pat_374304630]

I'm with your Lordship on this.I have spent many years fighting the caravanner's corner.Without doubt the most common comment is 'I hate getting stuck behind caravans'.

I tell them that these days cars are much more efficent and quite capable of doing the max uphill & down dale.Yes you do get the odd one that gives us a bad name.

But I shall keep on flying the flag for caravanning............

Pat

 

[BrianStAlbans]

And I'll keep polishing my twinkle ;O)

 

[Lord Braykewynde]

I totally agree with allen, we have all been stuck up behind JCBs, tractor/trailers and the little old ladies in their Micra's. In Herefordshire we can't go more than a few miles without getting behind a tractor. It's totally frustrating I know but does that make it right that we have to act as ignorant as those people?

On Monday on my way home a car pulled out in front of me but I'm sure we can guess that it will happen, it's as if we can read the drivers mind saying "oooo a caravan, don't want to get stuck behind that". I then had to follow them the last 10 miles home as they tootled along doing between 38-40mph.

I religiously pull in wherever/whenever it's safe to do so because I'm also one of those who get p*$$ed off when driving and are stuck up behind a caravan who wont let others pass.

BTW Brian, the car that pulled out in front of me was a shiney Peugot 307 coupe ... ;O) hehheh!

 

[BrianStAlbans]

Peugeot 307 !! was it on the back of an AA truck ;O)

 

[SteveW77]

Surely a lot of this problem could be alleviated by simply increasing the speed limit on caravans to a more sensible 60mph on all roads, common sense prevailing of course as to when it would be appropriate to do this speed.

Steve W

 

[Lord Braykewynde]

Peugeot 307 !! was it on the back of an AA truck ;O)

Question, I know it's off topic but our local Peugot dealer has closed down. Does that mean that Peugots aren't selling so well now? I hope so because I wished it on them after the French closed the plant down at Coventry.

 

[Lord Braykewynde]

The only comment I will make Steve is if it was 60 I would do 60 wherever it was possible and safe. Saying that the person in my original post hit 40 maximum and that is far too slow in my opinion and by not pulling in it frustrates others. Indirectly these people are just as much a cause of accidents as people who speed.

 

[SteveW77]

I accept your point L B, just pointing out that the average driver does not understand that we a condemned to a lower speed limit that they are and that is the reason that they so detest getting behind a caravan and the "Doddery old sod" that pulls one.

Steve W

 

[emmerson2]

Not at all Brian, I could have described it as an old classic Royalle towed by a Humber Sceptre and then it might have been understandable why it was slow. Again if I had described it as that I would have been telling lies :O)

'scuse me, there's only one "l" in Royale!

 

[Lord Braykewynde]

'scuse me, there's only one "l" in Royale!

... at least I put an "e" on the end :O)

 

[Meister]

What really worries me though is that the driver mentioned by LB appears to have been driving without displaying the appropriate signage telling other road users that he was fully qualified to be on the Queens highway whilst in possession of a TWINKLE !!

IMHO an untrained TWINKLE user can be a real danger to others.

Steve

 

[Lord Braykewynde]

What really worries me though is that the driver mentioned by LB appears to have been driving without displaying the appropriate signage telling other road users that he was fully qualified to be on the Queens highway whilst in possession of a TWINKLE !!

IMHO an untrained TWINKLE user can be a real danger to others.

Steve

Hehheh!

 

[Lord Braykewynde]

What surprised me nobody was using their horns.

On reflection I think it was because the drivers behind were completely dazzled by his twinkle.

 

[Bernie_5110919]

Question, I know it's off topic but our local Peugot dealer has closed down. Does that mean that Peugots aren't selling so well now? I hope so because I wished it on them after the French closed the plant down at Coventry.

Hi My Lord

for our sins we have had Hartwells open up a Peugeot dealership in Hereford