Daily Mail gets it wrong again - Rottie attack

[LMH]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/arti...in_page_id=1770
None of us (I assume) were present when this terrible thing happened, however, there were bystanders who didn't intervene (according to the press).

A man died, terrible, terrible thing to happen.

However, the Daily Mail has put a photo of a dog along with this quote 'a rottie, similar to the dog pictured' or words to that effect carried out this attack - on its website.

The dog pictured is in fact a Staffordshire Bull Terrier. There is no similarity between the two breeds at all, a Rottie has distinctive facial colourings, a lot of people would know that.

I have complained to the editor about this and await his/her comments. A national newspaper paying good salaries to their journalists I expect, can make such an error. Bit like saying there was a high profile robbery and the suspects made off in a Ford Transit, then posts a picture of a Nissan Cabstar.

Mislead the public Daily Mail? oh yeah, you're the experts at it.

 

[Lord Braykewynde]

It was reported on the BT/Yahoo website Lisa. It showed the man walking his dog from CCTV footage shortly before the incident. Somehow I think the dog was a bit too big to be a Staffie :O)

I have had a look to see if I can get the link but it doesn't seem to have a search on that site.

It happened in London.

 

[emmerson2]

Lisa, I just tried the link, and it comes up "this page unavailable" Significant perhaps?

 

[LMH]

Morning gents

On the Daily Mail website, there was a video still of the poor man with the Rottie, however at the bottom of the written article, there was a photo of a SBT. That's what angered me, talk about misleading the public. My breed (SBT) gets enough bad press as it is without the media fueling the fire with inaccuracies.

You only have to look at what recently happened on another forum, a person who had obviously believed what they read in the papers and saw on the tv wrote a hypothetical scenario which resulted in very bad feeling.

Lisa

 

[Lord Braykewynde]

In fairness to some people, they wouldn't know a whippet from a greyhound but as a so called, supposed to be, respectable national newspaper you would think they would do a minutes research so as to print the correct photo.

Another website I saw, the photo wasn't of a Rottweiler. They might as well show a pic of any breed of dog as long as it's mouth is open showing its teeth.

 

[LMH]

An Open Message to the British Media: Keep up the Devil Dog Hype, be Prepared to Live With THIS.

Written by Ryan O'Meara who is editor-in-chief of K9 Magazine, the lifestyle magazine for dog lovers. He lives in the East Midlands.

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At the start of this week a man died on a British street.

He wasn't stabbed, shot or run over by a car.

In fact, at the time of this being written, we don't actually know how he died.

What we do know is that he was walking his dog, his dog of 10 years that he'd had from a puppy, he collapsed and the dog pulled at him enough to cause serious injuries.

Maybe the dog killed him by pulling at his body. Maybe whatever it was that caused him to collapse killed him. We don't know.

But let's deal, today at least, in what we do know.

We do know that the incidents of dogs - whatever their breed - suddenly deciding to attack and kill their owners out of nowhere, is, to say the least, very rare.

We do know that Britain (and other countries) seems to thrive on a good 'devil dog' story. We do know which are the breeds that have 'earned' that tag.

We do know the current wearer of that name is the Rottweiler. We do know the man who died at the start of a week was a Rottweiler owner. We do know that his dog did not just launch into a fatal attack on him 'out of nowhere'. We do know that some reporting of his death has completely neglected to give the full picture.

We do know that people are influenced by what they read and hear.

We do know that people are prone to panic and make knee jerk decisions based on nothing more than hype and hot air.

We do know that people are abandoning Rottweilers in growing numbers.

We do know that when another, irresponsible, panicking, dog owner goes knee jerking all the way to the forest to dump their litter of Rottweilers and their mother who was found dead by RSPCA officers, that certain members of the media should accept their rampant, non fact based demonisation of a particular dog breed is in no small part responsible for this

Please, if you're going to directly contribute to people making irresponsible, knee jerk decisions, don't then weep about animal welfare issues when it suits you to do so.

We won't overcome the problem of irresponsible owners and subsequently stop dog attacks by apportioning the blame in the wrong direction. Devil dog hype might sell papers, it doesn't stop dog attacks and does nothing for animal welfare. It's not part of the solution, in fact it's part of the problem. Go here, stop dog attacks.

 

[LMH]

In fairness to some people, they wouldn't know a whippet from a greyhound but as a so called, supposed to be, respectable national newspaper you would think they would do a minutes research so as to print the correct photo.

Another website I saw, the photo wasn't of a Rottweiler. They might as well show a pic of any breed of dog as long as it's mouth is open showing its teeth.

well said.

 

[colin(bridgend)]

Lets face facts - ANY dog can be nasty. If a dog is mistreated they will act accordingly to protect themselves - it is only natural. Unfortunately the media has classed certain dogs to be naturally viscious and will dwell on it as much as possible. It is the coverage by the media which has resulted in the dangerous dogs act. I am pretty certain that a dog has an inbuilt knowledge whether a person is a friend or is going to be cruel. I have previously been playing with a Corgi, which supposed to have a reputation of being snappy. The dog was brilliant with me until its owner came on the scene and then it turned nasty. Lets be honest if we are mistreated by a fellow human being we will put up a resistance to defend ourself. All the dogs we have had have been treated as pets and they have all turned out to be almost "half human" in their ways - not a nasty streak in them.

 

[LMH]

Hi Colin

My first post was regarding the Daily Mail's photo of the wrong breed of dog.

The copied post by Ryan O'Meara sums up the media quite accuractly in my opinion.

I can't comment on this 'It is the coverage by the media which has resulted in the dangerous dogs act' as I would have to do a bit of research to see if your quote is correct. I do have my feelings on that quote Colin but until I am in possession of the full facts, I'd rather not comment.

'Lets be honest if we are mistreated by a fellow human being we will put up a resistance to defend ourself', I totally agree with that Colin and can see where you are coming from but we shouldn't really compare the human thought chain to that of dogs.

Some dogs will allow a human to carry out a whole manner of cruel disgusting things to it without every retaliating. Some dogs won't and the self preservation instinct will kick in.

Lisa x

 

[JasonR_374341560]

The press often get the wrong end of the stick and can mislead the public.

There are various breads of dogs that have a just reputation for being a "little" unfriendly at times.

We can't see the attraction in owning such dogs, why get a dog from a gene pool with supect traits in the first place?

If dogs with suspect behaviour are not removed from the breeding chain we'll continue to see the sad stories in the press be they just or unjust.

 

[Legsmaniac_374344731]

"You only have to look at what recently happened on another forum, a person who had obviously believed what they read in the papers and saw on the tv wrote a hypothetical scenario which resulted in very bad feeling."

Here we go again!

As you said yourself, it was hypothetical so why don't you accept it? A hypothetical scenario which could and does happen.

"who had obviously believed what they read in the papers and saw on the tv"

Me and thousands of others. I'm not alone.

"Lets face facts - ANY dog can be nasty."

Exactly, Colin. Well said!

"The dog was brilliant with me until its owner came on the scene and then it turned nasty."

Now I'm reading this on a forum from someone I know. Not on the news or the TV. Nor was this a hypothetical incident.

Get my point now? No, probably not. I don't even know why I'm wasting my time posting this.

 

[LMH]

Yawn!

 

[emmerson2]

"You only have to look at what recently happened on another forum, a person who had obviously believed what they read in the papers and saw on the tv wrote a hypothetical scenario which resulted in very bad feeling."

Here we go again!

As you said yourself, it was hypothetical so why don't you accept it? A hypothetical scenario which could and does happen.

"who had obviously believed what they read in the papers and saw on the tv"

Me and thousands of others. I'm not alone.

"Lets face facts - ANY dog can be nasty."

Exactly, Colin. Well said!

"The dog was brilliant with me until its owner came on the scene and then it turned nasty."

Now I'm reading this on a forum from someone I know. Not on the news or the TV. Nor was this a hypothetical incident.

Get my point now? No, probably not. I don't even know why I'm wasting my time posting this.

Then why did you bother?

 

[Legsmaniac_374344731]

Then why did you bother?

Dunno really. For the same reason you keep popping back on my forum to check the messages I suppose. LOL

 

[ThePlotter]

Lisa I think some folk must like fishing as they always rise to the bait and survive on being controversial no matter what you say I think your argument may fall on deaf ears.

 

[colin(bridgend)]

Lord Plotter (as Lord B. has now had you recently raised to the supreme title) I was not fishing or any other bait biting, I was merely trying to defend dogs in general for their good, or otherwise, nature. They are afterall only defending themeselves as needed. It is in their nature to hunt as and when necessary.

 

[ThePlotter]

Colin my comment was not aimed at you me old mate.

 

[LMH]

Colin, CHILL! The canines of the world greatly appreciate your support mate. The owner of the corgi, I'd have loved to have witnessed that Colin to try and get an angle on the dog's behaviour and that of its owner (just for my tool kit).

And hey Colin, you're a dark horse, I didn't know you had met Legs too.

Lisa xxxx

 

[LMH]

I can't believe I missed this:

'As you said yourself, it was hypothetical so why don't you accept it? A hypothetical scenario which could and does happen'.

Not when it involves my dog it doesn't matey.

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And by the way, my husband would like to extend an invitation to you to meet up and discuss what you wrote. He actually cannot understand why anyone would spend time on forums but he was extremely interested when I showed him what you had written.

Lisa

 

[Legsmaniac_374344731]

"And by the way, my husband would like to extend an invitation to you to meet up and discuss what you wrote."

No problem. But then, why wait for a meet? You have my email address.

"Not when it involves my dog it doesn't matey."

You can't.... oh never mind. We've been there and done that. I'm not allowing it to start all over again.

"and survive on being controversial no matter what you say I think your argument may fall on deaf ears."

LMAO. For someone who has a deaf daughter, I think that was a rather underhand and childish dig. I'll leave you in the playground, Plotter, because I'm not bringing myself down to your level. ;-)

Isn't it about time we all agreed to disagree and put this stupid back stabbing, digging at one another and running people down to rest once and for all?

 

[LMH]

I'm not waiting for a meet. My husband does things face to face, in person so there's no misunderstandings. I have your email address for admin on your site. I will email you to arrange something when the weather picks up unless you have blocked my email address too.

Whether you're not allowing it to start up again Gary or not, I don't think you'll ever appreciate just how much that post upset and angered me. I make it my business to work with dogs and take a great interest in canine psychology. Look at it this way, how would you feel if I got on my high horse about something I knew hardly anything about but of which you were proficient in and wrote something like you did?

Lisa

 

[KenWashington]

When I saw this thread start, I knew it would "end in tears".

My index digit is poised over the delete key .....

 

[LMH]

Clarification:

'I'm not waiting for a meet'.

I thought you meant a meet as in a group of caravanners meeting up.

I mean a more of a meeting.

Lisa

 

[LMH]

Mod - don't panic, I'm sure we'll prove you wrong.

Lisa x

 

[rayc]

In my local paper "area dog kennel worker who was attacked by a Rottweiler has had one arm amputated and may lose her other one.

Mandy Peynado suffered horrific injuries as she exercised the dog at Knightwood Kennels in West Grimstead, near Salisbury, Wiltshire.

The dog turned on her and sunk its teeth into her arms, police said.

"She has lost one arm and surgeons are fighting to save the other one. She remains in intensive care and her condition is said to be stable," a spokesman for Wiltshire police said.

The animal, which has since been destroyed, was brought in to the kennels by New Forest District Council after being found abandoned.

I'm not entering this discussion on any side but having come across a rotweiller one night after it had got outside the scrap dealers where he was on guard I can honestly say I was terrrified. My advise to myself is keep far away from big dogs with sharp teeth and the same goes for their owners.