Dog Owners beware

[Lord Braykewynde]

We arrived at White House Beach yesterday from Sandringham and in the last 24 hours have found 5 ticks on our dogs. It looks as if it's going to be a bad summer for them. I found one crawling on my t-shirt.

People need to be aware that if bitten they to can be ill from Lyme disease.....

http://www.netdoctor.co.uk/diseases/facts/lymedisease.htm

 

[LMH]

I saw your post and thought it might be about irresponsible dog owners and you threatening to duff them up.

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Thanks for the tip, we're holidaying in that area this year, I'll make sure we take all the bits and bobs.

Lisa

 

[BrianStAlbans]

5 ticks on our dogs

They must be doing something right ;O)

 

[Rita1]

HeHeHe Brian

So with one tick LB's not earn't many Brownie Points on hol so far )

 

[Lord Braykewynde]

Quote Lisa ... "thought it might be about irresponsible dog owners"

OK here goes then .. LOL.

Due to one of our dogs having a poor constitution first thing in the morning we were lucky enough to get a pitch next to one of the entrances to the woods. We noticed that there were no dog dump bins so mentioned it to the wardens. They told us they were on order so there wasn't any at the moment although we were still supposed to comply with the signs and pick up.

We did this religiously and one morning one of our dogs had the squits (after eating chicken) so, although it wasn't on the path, I still went and got a bucket of water to wash it down.

The main point of this post is that in the 7 days we spent there not one person came out of the woods with their dog, carrying the dogs dumps, which became quickly apparent from the amount of dumps along the footpaths. For those who are familiar with Sandringham there was even a hillock in the middle of the path by the gate where you go to the shop.

Do people, just because there are no dedicated bins by the entrances, think it absolves them of the responsibility of acting as a good dog owner and being a person who thinks of others?

My answer to the problem if I owned the site would be to ban dogs. As a dog owner I would find this a sad act to carry out but the only one that selfish people would understand. Regrettably we get tarred with the same brush as these anti-social people.

 

[LMH]

'Do people, just because there are no dedicated bins by the entrances, think it absolves them of the responsibility of acting as a good dog owner and being a person who thinks of others?'

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YES.

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When my bro and I, along with little Gaylord, stopped on a site in Kent the other month, the site owner said, 'feel free to walk your dog through the miles of open countryside, as we own some of it and rent some of it' (or something like that). She did request that you picked up after your dog even in the fields.

Guess who was the only person to walk back onto the campsite with a little black plastic bag? Me!

I live next to the Grantham canal, and it's the same along there, dog muck all over the place despite the fact there is a plentiful supply of dog bins. Spoils it for everyone else and gives all dog owners a bad name.

At the site in Penrith, I was walking to the onsite shop with Diesel when he had an accident on the edge of someones pitch (he was on a short lead), I won't go into the details but it was similar to your dogs predicament. I cleared most of it up but then, well you know, so I rang my brother and he came across with a large bottle of water and I managed to wash the rest of it away.

Lisa

 

[Royston]

Hi LB, sorry that you had to experience the poo dumping careing caravan owners at sandringham cc site I found the same when i last visited over 2 years ago, we stopped going into the woods because of all the dumps.You have not mentioned that the royal carriage was not at your disposal , and that you had to walk the 2 miles through the woods to the servants entrance at the rear of the stately home.Glad that you have found Whitehouse I am keeping my fingures crossed that you do not have heavy rain.

Royston

 

[Lord Braykewynde]

Heh! heh! Royston, my visit to Sanders was all hush hush. Lisbet and Phil promised that they would keep my visit secret, my safety was paramount. That is why it was safe for me in the woods, Harry and his hunting pals weren't around although it was a close call, he was at the Norfolk Show :O)

I recall someone mentioning about heavy rain and sewerage but cannot remember where the bad pitches are at White House Beach. We are on the front, overlooking the beach with the lane seperating us from the main site.

 

[Royston]

Heh! heh! Royston, my visit to Sanders was all hush hush. Lisbet and Phil promised that they would keep my visit secret, my safety was paramount. That is why it was safe for me in the woods, Harry and his hunting pals weren't around although it was a close call, he was at the Norfolk Show :O)

I recall someone mentioning about heavy rain and sewerage but cannot remember where the bad pitches are at White House Beach. We are on the front, overlooking the beach with the lane seperating us from the main site.

Your safe where you are its the other site which is below sea level where all the problems occured.Never pitched where you when we go their its always full of motorhomes, Still in May we managed to pitch on the grass near the booking in office which was excellent.

Nice lot of dog walks nearbye, you can walk for miles to your right past the distant groin.

Royston

 

[Dustydog]

LB

Yuk!!

Ticks are a real problem this century, anywhere where sheep or that type of animal are. Since 2000ish farmers , most of them don't dip their sheep anymore, so ticks are rife.

We live in open country where there are a lot of foxes so rather than frontline our two spaniels get advocate. In addition when away like the last 3 weeks around the North Yorkshire moors we also use advatix which specifically kills ticks. Lymes disease is horible and a s far as I know can be controlled but not entirely cured. Applies to us humans too.

A good warning LB.

Cheers

Alan

 

[Lord Braykewynde]

We have found two more today so that's seven and still counting.

We can't use Frontline because one of our dogs is a licker and licks the other two. The Vet said it's not worth the risk of her ingesting the Frontline :O(

 

[AnnM1]

Sorry to hear of your problem with ticks LB. However, just last week I was chatting (as you do on site) to a neighbour who said that her dog had escaped from their unit on a previous holiday. Apparently it had had a great time wandering around where ticks were prevalent. Needless to day, it was covered in them. She took it to a nearby farm and the farmer kindly put it through the sheep dip. Problem solved. Would this be any use to your dog(s)?

As I only have one dog to consider I always Frontline her monthly in summer as we go away often. Never had a problem to date, but we do keep checking her out on a regular basis just to be sure.

Ann

 

[Lord Braykewynde]

Thanks for the info Ann, I thought they had banned ship dipping and that is why they are blaming the increase in ticks. Maybe I'm wrong. I do know farmers have been blaming the dip chemicals for various illnesses they suffer like cancer.

 

[AnnM1]

I can only reiterate what I was told by a fellow vanner, LB. Sorry if the information is incorrect. I don't live in a farming community so I don't know whether or not dipping has been stopped. Are there any farmers out there who can put this point straight?

Ann

 

[GillandMike]

It's not manditory for farmers to dip sheep. They can if they feel the need too. i.e. if they are in an area where there are a lot of ticks! My dogs picked up a lot of ticks last year when we were in Devon. We visited a local vet for some Frontline and he put the blame squarely on the none dipping of sheep helping to fuel the increase in ticks.

 

[Lord Braykewynde]

Hi Ann, I've just Googled the below info but I'm not sure how up to date it is. David (Suffolk) off this forum I believe has sheep, perhaps he can enlighten us out of interest :O)

"Sheep dipping was made compulsory twice a year in 1985 but made non-compulsory again in 1992. Sheep dips contain toxic organophosphates (OP's) which are believed to be responsible for a high incidence of severe illness in farmers. Sheep dip products safeguard sheep from pests like scab, blowfly, ticks and lice. Sheep dipping is a particular priority for Groundwater Protection Code since misuse of sheep dip has caused serious environmental damage in the past. The active ingredients of dip are generally highly toxic to aquatic life. The Regulations require that before disposing, or tipping for the purpose of disposal, a listed dangerous substance to land, authorisation should be obtained from the Environment Agency to prevent substances from entering groundwater".

 

[GillandMike]

I used to have a couple of sheep and used to spray them for ticks and blow flies. Not that they stood around letting me do this. Can you picture it .... me rushing around trying to spray my two old gals who had a fair turn of speed when necessery!

 

[AnnM1]

Hi Ann, I've just Googled the below info but I'm not sure how up to date it is. David (Suffolk) off this forum I believe has sheep, perhaps he can enlighten us out of interest :O)

"Sheep dipping was made compulsory twice a year in 1985 but made non-compulsory again in 1992. Sheep dips contain toxic organophosphates (OP's) which are believed to be responsible for a high incidence of severe illness in farmers. Sheep dip products safeguard sheep from pests like scab, blowfly, ticks and lice. Sheep dipping is a particular priority for Groundwater Protection Code since misuse of sheep dip has caused serious environmental damage in the past. The active ingredients of dip are generally highly toxic to aquatic life. The Regulations require that before disposing, or tipping for the purpose of disposal, a listed dangerous substance to land, authorisation should be obtained from the Environment Agency to prevent substances from entering groundwater".

Thanks, LB, for the explanation.

Best wishes

Ann

 

[hogrider56]

If your dog ever gets caught with a tick and you need to do something quickly about it....never try to pull it off...if you havent got proprietry stuff from vet, coat the tick completely in either gin or brandy, and the alcohol content will kill it. That was a tip from my own vet when I rang him to ask what to do when one of my yorkies had a tick.

 

[Rubix]

Or coat it fully in Vaseline as it suffocates it, then it is easier to remove when it's dead.

 

[Lord Braykewynde]

Another point is that when removing the tick turn the tick anti-clockwise because the tick bites in clockwise. This way you have a better chance of removing the mouth parts. Also be wary of squeezing the ticks body and making it regurgitate it's stomach contents into your dogs bloodstream.

Of the eight ticks I missed 3 and they dropped off but I removed 5 of them, one right in the corner of the eye. That one caused the most pain and I even heard a plop as it came out leaving a small hole. In the following days after removal check the removal site and make sure there's no welt or swelling. You can get the tick removers from your vet but I already had one in a dog first aid kit. This turned out to be a waste of time.

In 14 years of keeping dogs I've only found one tick before and now I find eight in one week :O(

 

[Lord Braykewynde]

BTW, Wendy (Norfolk) says that due to the mild winters ticks are at Sandringham all the year round :O(

 

[AlanChristine]

According to BADA-UK,petroleum(vaseline etc) should not be used to remove ticks.It causes the tick to reguritate its stomach contents back into the bloodsream of the animal on which its feeding.

 

[Rubix]

According to BADA-UK,petroleum(vaseline etc) should not be used to remove ticks.It causes the tick to reguritate its stomach contents back into the bloodsream of the animal on which its feeding.

Thanks for that "Alan & Christine", we were told to use vaeleine by our vet, it might be worth looking into that.

 

[LMH]

I've got a photo of a cow, if you blow it up (photo, not the actual cow), you can see its got quite a few ticks.

Would anyone like to see it?

Lisa