Dogs in awning - security question

[LMH]

If anyone sleeps their dog/s in the awning in a crate/s do they undertake any security measures to keep the dog/s from being stolen? And, if so, what are those measures?

This is just a general question, no abusive answers please.

Thanks.

Lisa.

 

[Lord Braykewynde]

Personally I wouldn't put my dogs in the awning Lisa, this solution was given in the "dog in bed" thread. Apart from the risk of theft of pedigree dogs my dogs are foremost pets. I wouldn't be happy leaving them out in the cold although I can understand how some would. Take farmers dogs for example, they are out in all weathers at night, winter too. I suppose thats the difference between having a dog as a pet and a dog as a working animal.

 

[LMH]

Hi Lord B

Thanks for the reply, cold isn't an issue as I take steps to keep them warm in there.

Keeping the dogs safe is something which has ocurred to me over the past couple of weeks or so - I was walking down the tow path a couple of weeks ago with GL and came upon a group of people (3 lads aged about 16-25). They made a great fuss of him and then asked me for my address. As much as I would have liked to think they fancied me and were intending on calling with chocolates etc (ha,ha!!!), it was the dog they were interested in.

As I stated on here a few months ago, two lads tried to steal GL when he was tied up outside a shop. I met a woman at a show yesterday and she padlocks her cages if she has to leave her dogs unattended at shows (even at Crufts) and in the awning in her caravan.

As much as I love both my dogs, GL is more attractive to dubious people and if he was taken, he'd be used for illegal purposes and god knows what. So I'm now having a re-think about leaving him in the awning at night. The other dog is quite capable of seeing thieves off if they tried to take her but it's doubtful they would. But I can't house two dogs in the caravan and now I think I would feel guilty about having one in the van and one in the awning. Sound like a drippy woman now!

Lisa

 

[AnnM1]

Hi Lisa

I'm with LB on this one. There is no way I could leave my little pooch out in the awning overnight. She doesn't even like being there, during daylight, when we are inside the caravan. Like us, she enjoys her 'home' comforts. She sleeps in her own pet bed indoors, whether home/away. If your pet is used to being outside - OK. I doubt that your puppy is used to this treatment. She would, most likely, be awake most of the night due to nocturnal noises. Would she be quiet? Highly unlikely - and you and the other half would be up and down all night 'like a fiddlers elbow' trying to keep her calm. Maisie wakes us up when wild life comes sniffing around our unit, let alone under the van or inside the awning. However, we can calm her down quickly - being in the van with us.

At the end of the day it is up to you - but I would give the matter serious thought.

Then again, theft is another matter!!!

Good luck.

Ann

 

[AnnM1]

Hi Lord B

Thanks for the reply, cold isn't an issue as I take steps to keep them warm in there.

Keeping the dogs safe is something which has ocurred to me over the past couple of weeks or so - I was walking down the tow path a couple of weeks ago with GL and came upon a group of people (3 lads aged about 16-25). They made a great fuss of him and then asked me for my address. As much as I would have liked to think they fancied me and were intending on calling with chocolates etc (ha,ha!!!), it was the dog they were interested in.

As I stated on here a few months ago, two lads tried to steal GL when he was tied up outside a shop. I met a woman at a show yesterday and she padlocks her cages if she has to leave her dogs unattended at shows (even at Crufts) and in the awning in her caravan.

As much as I love both my dogs, GL is more attractive to dubious people and if he was taken, he'd be used for illegal purposes and god knows what. So I'm now having a re-think about leaving him in the awning at night. The other dog is quite capable of seeing thieves off if they tried to take her but it's doubtful they would. But I can't house two dogs in the caravan and now I think I would feel guilty about having one in the van and one in the awning. Sound like a drippy woman now!

Lisa

Hi Lisa

Not a drippy woman - just someone who cares for their pets. Most dogs curl up when asleep. Why not try them both in the caravan? I am sure you will cope admirably. You don't need a huge van to cope with this problem.

We had 2 GS dogs in a small 2-berth tourer with end kitchen and had no probs at all. One actually preferred sleeping in the toilet compartment. Not ideal in the middle of the night, but it worked well for us.

I think you will feel safer with both your dogs INSIDE the van. I know I would.

Best wishes

Ann

 

[LMH]

Hi Ann

Thanks for your reply.

Weather dependant - if it's cold I put a halogen heater in there (switches off if knocked over) kept a safe distance away from the cages, cage sides covered with horse rug fabric. We do leave the top half of the caravan door open at night. I think I have answered my own question, the older dog will remain in the awning and the youngster will come in the van at night. I couldn't cope with both of them in the van at the moment until the youngster settles down. The older dog doesn't make a sound in the awning. It's just that I've had many dogs over the years but have never experienced such interest as my youngster receives from all types of people. Which in one way is a compliment but in other ways, it's making me a bit paraniod.

Lisa

 

[Lol1]

How about using a ground anchor, the corkscrew type and padlocking that to the cage. At least they couldn't run away with the cage including dog. It's an unfortunate world that we live in, but the fact remains, if they want it they will get it. Would a baby alarm on an electrical extension in the awning be of any use during the night?

It's a shame they wont let us keep werewolves, just seeing the face of the lightfingered git, when he half inches your pet lycanthrope, would be worth all those silver bullets...

 

[chelsea1]

cant you put trip-wires around the outside of the awning, any touch or trip and set off an alarm or maybe electric shock?!?



I dont think id entertain of leaving them in the awning the Lisa, not unless your fully comfortable with it...you will have sleepless nights...I know i would.

 

[Val & Frank]

Cats don't take up much room in the Van, and they don't bark.

Val & Frank.

Pushing the Cat agenda. -) honest.

And the Jobies are smaller !!!!!!!

 

[LMH]

Lol - I like the idea of anchoring the cage etc. (Do you work for MI6) (SIS)?

Sarah - I'm just looking into the possibility of placing barbed wire around the perimeter of the awning and hooking it up to the electrical system.

The more I think about it, the more I think Diesel (GL) is a mini version of cris, a 15 inch killing machine, not trained by 'our government', but by little old me). Smiley icon thingy, no offence cris.

Lisa x

 

[LMH]

Cats don't take up much room in the Van, and they don't bark.

Val & Frank.

Pushing the Cat agenda. -) honest.

And the Jobies are smaller !!!!!!!

I've got three cats. They don't half scratch the bloomin furniture though.

Lisa

 

[LMH]

How about using a ground anchor, the corkscrew type and padlocking that to the cage. At least they couldn't run away with the cage including dog. It's an unfortunate world that we live in, but the fact remains, if they want it they will get it. Would a baby alarm on an electrical extension in the awning be of any use during the night?

It's a shame they wont let us keep werewolves, just seeing the face of the lightfingered git, when he half inches your pet lycanthrope, would be worth all those silver bullets...

I've heard bad things about baby alarms, nudge, nudge, wink, wink.

 

[Viking1]

Lisa

You cud get a way just with use a pad lock and it loop fro one of your corner stay on the caravan then fro the crate door.

Cut and past this to see it

http://www.saundersonsecurity.co.uk/acatalog/Miscellaneous_Security.html
If you do not like use your corner stays on the caravan then you cud use one of these.

cut and past this

http://www.sasproducts.com/acatalog/Spyra-Base_Ground_Anchor.html
Cut and past this

Mark

 

[LMH]

Hey Mark

I was joking with Lol about the ground anchor but thanks for posting that link, after looking at the link, I actually think that is the way to go. Daisy (older dog) will be fine in the awning. Diesel (Gaylord) if he sleeps in the awning will have the ground anchor attached to his cage. Both cages will be padlocked with one of those padlocks with a number on it to release. If Gaylord starts singing, then he'll have to come inside the caravan. The site we are stopping on in July/August in Cornwall is quite quiet so he'll definately be in the awning with Daisy. If we stop at a commercial site or when I take him to Appleby Horse Fair next year (horror of horrors) he'll be sleeping in the caravan.

Thanks again Mark.

p.s. How's your pup doing? Can you send me a photo (I lost my address book when I got this new computer).

Lisa

Lisa

 

[Viking1]

Hi lisa,

Bess is geting really big now.

l will send you a photo if we can get any new ones of her as she does not stay still long enough.

mark.

 

[Lord Braykewynde]

Hi Lisa

Not a drippy woman - just someone who cares for their pets. Most dogs curl up when asleep. Why not try them both in the caravan? I am sure you will cope admirably. You don't need a huge van to cope with this problem.

We had 2 GS dogs in a small 2-berth tourer with end kitchen and had no probs at all. One actually preferred sleeping in the toilet compartment. Not ideal in the middle of the night, but it worked well for us.

I think you will feel safer with both your dogs INSIDE the van. I know I would.

Best wishes

Ann

I agree Ann, not only for the dogs safety but also for Lisa's, they will let her know if anyone is about or trying to break in.

 

[Lord Braykewynde]

Hi Lord B

Thanks for the reply, cold isn't an issue as I take steps to keep them warm in there.

Keeping the dogs safe is something which has ocurred to me over the past couple of weeks or so - I was walking down the tow path a couple of weeks ago with GL and came upon a group of people (3 lads aged about 16-25). They made a great fuss of him and then asked me for my address. As much as I would have liked to think they fancied me and were intending on calling with chocolates etc (ha,ha!!!), it was the dog they were interested in.

As I stated on here a few months ago, two lads tried to steal GL when he was tied up outside a shop. I met a woman at a show yesterday and she padlocks her cages if she has to leave her dogs unattended at shows (even at Crufts) and in the awning in her caravan.

As much as I love both my dogs, GL is more attractive to dubious people and if he was taken, he'd be used for illegal purposes and god knows what. So I'm now having a re-think about leaving him in the awning at night. The other dog is quite capable of seeing thieves off if they tried to take her but it's doubtful they would. But I can't house two dogs in the caravan and now I think I would feel guilty about having one in the van and one in the awning. Sound like a drippy woman now!

Lisa

I agree Ann, not only for the dogs safety but also for Lisa's, they will let her know if anyone is about or trying to break in.

 

[LMH]

Thanks Mark, she's a beautiful dog.

When you email me, I'll be able to email one back of Gaylord, it's a bit of a large file I'm afraid.

Lisa.

 

[Lord Braykewynde]

Lisa will you stick to the name of Deisel for your dog please and not keep referring to him as Gaylord. I'm getting quite a complex about it thinking that some people on here will think you are meaning me. Since you had Gaylord and used that name on here my homophobia as risen tenfold and I can no longer even eat sausages :O(

 

[LMH]

Lord B

Nothing wrong with sausages.

To allay your fears:

Gaylord is similar to you in certain respects, he's well bred and handsome and - (quoted by a judge yesterday) - is handsome, true to type, good strong head, plenty of chest, powerhouse from the rear action (hind legs), good strong neck, glossy rich black coat. Good topline, moves nicely, a fine specimen of the breed. Was awarded first.

I think that sums you up too.

Lisa xxxxxxxx

 

[Lord Braykewynde]

Lord B

Nothing wrong with sausages.

To allay your fears:

Gaylord is similar to you in certain respects, he's well bred and handsome and - (quoted by a judge yesterday) - is handsome, true to type, good strong head, plenty of chest, powerhouse from the rear action (hind legs), good strong neck, glossy rich black coat. Good topline, moves nicely, a fine specimen of the breed. Was awarded first.

I think that sums you up too.

Lisa xxxxxxxx

lmaaaooooooooo Lisa, the money is in the post ;O)

 

[LMH]

Lord B

Nothing wrong with sausages.

To allay your fears:

Gaylord is similar to you in certain respects, he's well bred and handsome and - (quoted by a judge yesterday) - is handsome, true to type, good strong head, plenty of chest, powerhouse from the rear action (hind legs), good strong neck, glossy rich black coat. Good topline, moves nicely, a fine specimen of the breed. Was awarded first.

I think that sums you up too.

Lisa xxxxxxxx

There's some strange folk in the dog show world. I'll have to take my camera next time. Enough said.

 

[Val & Frank]

I've got three cats. They don't half scratch the bloomin furniture though.

Lisa

Do you ever take any with you on your travels ?????

Val & Frank

 

[Viking1]

Lisa

i thick i seen Ground_Anchor in B & Q were house

Mark

 

[LMH]

Hi Mark

I'll try to get over to B&Q, bit busy with work at the mo.

Thanks again.

Off to the land of nod in a mo, just got to take dog number one out now.

Lisa.