Fixed bed, first one was a Stering back bed, 2nd a Coachman 545 with Island bed, didnt bond with it now Coachman 560 side bed, and I don't mind the climb over, gives me a chance tto get another glass of water.
Answer is make up, but we simply sleep on the sofa seats as they are! No unfolding of bed parts to make a double bed!
Had make up, side fixed land and now islsnd fixed and would never go back to either of the previous.
And we can get our fairly large chairs under it, it's all about the angle of attack.
And we can get our fairly large chairs under it, it's all about the angle of attack.
Last two vans had fixed doubles, always climbing over each other during night to get to loo. Changed last year to Pegasus Rimini with fixed twin beds. Best nights sleep ever.
Made up and side dinette for us. Don't spend all day in bed, and it takes 5 minutes tops to make the bed.
Fixed = total waste of space as far as we are concerned.
Fixed = total waste of space as far as we are concerned.
One aspect of this debate that has not been covered so far is the composition of the seat/mattress itself.
Surely a seat that has to double as a mattress is composed of different materials/structure than a mattress that is only ever used as a mattress. Also a mattress doesn't have an joints that exist when seat "parts" are made up into a bed. I know some folks use a mattress topper to overcome this problem but then where do you store it?
In my (humble) opinion a fixed bed wins every time!
Mike
Surely a seat that has to double as a mattress is composed of different materials/structure than a mattress that is only ever used as a mattress. Also a mattress doesn't have an joints that exist when seat "parts" are made up into a bed. I know some folks use a mattress topper to overcome this problem but then where do you store it?
In my (humble) opinion a fixed bed wins every time!
Mike
Should have added .... I'm 6 foot 3. Our made up bed is 6 foot 8 by five foot ten.
Find me a fixed bed that size and I might consider it.
Find me a fixed bed that size and I might consider it.
Good point made by mikes as we had a mattress topper and like you said it is quite thick and storing it takes up the bottom part of one of our cupboards otherwise we just put a sheet over the top off the cushions and that normally does us
Dustydog said:
In my case she slides round past my feet and wrecks the bed. it does make me think we might look at an island bed next time.
A year ago, my answer would have been Make Up but after buying a brand-new Lunar Clubman ES this year to replace our old and trusty Lunar Freelander 2000, I'd have to change my mind to FIXED
They're both the same layout (front make up beds with kitchen bunk beds) but the Freelander was so much easier to make up the front beds e.g.
1. Fold flap up over sink
2. Raise bed with cushions and mattresses still on and remove Duvalays & pillows and put front arm rests in centre aisle
3. Place Duvalays & pillows on bed and pull out centre slats from front to back and put back cushions on.
4. Finished
Clubman ES?
1. Raise drop down flap as bed won't raise as the cushions are in the way
2. Remove back cushions and mattresses which are too thick and unwieldy as they're thicker than the span of my hands
3. Lift bedding locker, remove Duvalays & pillows, put 'L' shape arm rests in bedding locker as they are too high to go in centre aisle
4. Place Duvalays & pillows on bed, pull out centre slats side to middle and stuff back cushions above slats. Take off again as the motion of stuffing the cushions on have now partially retracted the slats. – I use a bungee cord to keep them in place now.
5. Finished
What used to be a 2-minute one person job has now become a 5-minute two person job.
….. and don’t get me started on the bunk bed base cushions
Style and appearance has thrown practicality out of the window!
They're both the same layout (front make up beds with kitchen bunk beds) but the Freelander was so much easier to make up the front beds e.g.
1. Fold flap up over sink
2. Raise bed with cushions and mattresses still on and remove Duvalays & pillows and put front arm rests in centre aisle
3. Place Duvalays & pillows on bed and pull out centre slats from front to back and put back cushions on.
4. Finished
Clubman ES?
1. Raise drop down flap as bed won't raise as the cushions are in the way
2. Remove back cushions and mattresses which are too thick and unwieldy as they're thicker than the span of my hands
3. Lift bedding locker, remove Duvalays & pillows, put 'L' shape arm rests in bedding locker as they are too high to go in centre aisle
4. Place Duvalays & pillows on bed, pull out centre slats side to middle and stuff back cushions above slats. Take off again as the motion of stuffing the cushions on have now partially retracted the slats. – I use a bungee cord to keep them in place now.
5. Finished
What used to be a 2-minute one person job has now become a 5-minute two person job.
….. and don’t get me started on the bunk bed base cushions
Style and appearance has thrown practicality out of the window!
YorkieF said:A year ago, my answer would have been Make Up but after buying a brand-new Lunar Clubman ES this year to replace our old and trusty Lunar Freelander 2000, I'd have to change my mind to FIXED
They're both the same layout (front make up beds with kitchen bunk beds) but the Freelander was so much easier to make up the front beds e.g.
1. Fold flap up over sink
2. Raise bed with cushions and mattresses still on and remove Duvalays & pillows and put front arm rests in centre aisle
3. Place Duvalays & pillows on bed and pull out centre slats from front to back and put back cushions on.
4. Finished
Clubman ES?
1. Raise drop down flap as bed won't raise as the cushions are in the way
2. Remove back cushions and mattresses which are too thick and unwieldy as they're thicker than the span of my hands
3. Lift bedding locker, remove Duvalays & pillows, put 'L' shape arm rests in bedding locker as they are too high to go in centre aisle
4. Place Duvalays & pillows on bed, pull out centre slats side to middle and stuff back cushions above slats. Take off again as the motion of stuffing the cushions on have now partially retracted the slats. – I use a bungee cord to keep them in place now.
5. Finished
What used to be a 2-minute one person job has now become a 5-minute two person job.
….. and don’t get me started on the bunk bed base cushions
Style and appearance has thrown practicality out of the window!
Yorkie ,
I could have had my bed made by the time I have read your post ha ha !!
:lol:Craig
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