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Full service are just habitation service

If your caravan is still within its warranty period then I think you need a full service to comply with the conditions.
If out of warranty, and on a seasonal, and it doesnt ever go onto the road then you could get away with just a hab check (and a damp check of course) BUT if/when you come to sell it that lack of a service record might affect its desirability to a purchaser.
 
My caravan not new but it came with warranty it is on a seasonal pitch but I was thinking of a full service and damp check next year it came with service history from new and I would like to keep it going .
 
My caravan not new but it came with warranty it is on a seasonal pitch but I was thinking of a full service and damp check next year it came with service history from new and I would like to keep it going .
Dealer or Manufacturers Warranty?
If the former do you have to use them or is an AWS ok!
 
Just wondering We are on a seasonal pitch do we need a full service or just a habitation check
Ask them to do the full service but exclude the Brake hub removal, AlKo do not require it every year. BUT, you do need to rotate your wheels, if it was myself I would raise the caravan off the wheels, and also leave the handbrake, OFF.
Your site rules might include the caravan can be moved in an emergency.
 
it was from a dealer but would prefer a AWS there one local to the site
Go for the AWS as long as it doesn’t prejudice your Dealer Warranty😉.I always prefer to use a local . They get to know you and your caravan and obviously as a seasonal much easier for them to come to you..
Hope you are enjoying the seasonal experience👍
 
Go for the AWS as long as it doesn’t prejudice your Dealer Warranty😉.I always prefer to use a local . They get to know you and your caravan and obviously as a seasonal much easier for them to come to you..
Hope you are enjoying the seasonal experience👍
I think BB's caravan is second hand so after 6 months, he would need to prove fault existed at time of purchase if the dealer gives him uphill about a repair.

Good idea to use AWS as cheaper and no need to have caravan taken back to dealership for servicing as an annual service record looks good when selling on the caravan. After the first 3 years, we had the AWS service which included the damp test, but skipped the habitation check as it seemed pointless as they only do checks and no repairs or servicing.
 
I think BB's caravan is second hand so after 6 months, he would need to prove fault existed at time of purchase if the dealer gives him uphill about a repair.

Good idea to use AWS as cheaper and no need to have caravan taken back to dealership for servicing as an annual service record looks good when selling on the caravan. After the first 3 years, we had the AWS service which included the damp test, but skipped the habitation check as it seemed pointless as they only do checks and no repairs or servicing.
BB uses his as a seasonal.
As Hutch said I appreciate no need for servicing the running gear but surely the full habitation check is important? Eg CO poisoning, Electrical issues which may cause a fire. Gas issues ?
It’s also possible BB will use his seasonal more often, for longer periods than when he was tugging.
 
BB uses his as a seasonal.
As Hutch said I appreciate no need for servicing the running gear but surely the full habitation check is important? Eg CO poisoning, Electrical issues which may cause a fire. Gas issues ?
It’s also possible BB will use his seasonal more often, for longer periods than when he was tugging.
The AWS only checks to see if they work and nothing else. If lights switch on and off, it is a pass as more than likely they are not electricians etc. To check and service the electrical system would be very expensive. Gas servicing is also an extra payment, but you can pay the bit extra for the gas pressure test. On a brand new caravan, I would suggest that the first three services are full services.

BB can buy the spray to check for CO if they have a CO monitor fitted in the caravan, but unlikely a caravan of that age will have the monitor fitted as standard. I guess it is up to BB to decide the best course of action and knowing BB always being very cautious he will have the full service..
 
The AWS only checks to see if they work and nothing else. If lights switch on and off, it is a pass as more than likely they are not electricians etc. To check and service the electrical system would be very expensive. Gas servicing is also an extra payment, but you can pay the bit extra for the gas pressure test. On a brand new caravan, I would suggest that the first three services are full services.

BB can buy the spray to check for CO if they have a CO monitor fitted in the caravan, but unlikely a caravan of that age will have the monitor fitted as standard. I guess it is up to BB to decide the best course of action and knowing BB always being very cautious he will have the full service..
Thanks for explaining.
What is very strange is there seems to be a disparity between our individual engineers 🙀

My Mobile AWS always does the gas pressure drop test.
Tests the ignition of all gas appliances,
ensures the flame failure devices work
Checks correct combustion is taking place and no CO etc


All the 230v appliances are checked for operation including the RCDs and PCBs.
Tests the charging output of the on board charger.
Test battery voltage

There other things like the toilet cistern micro switch and the infamous fuse and it’s holder inside the toilet waste tank compartment. Fuse removed , all surfaces cleaned and reinstalled.
My chap certainly is not just a “switch flicker”.

I wonder how others find their engineers work?
 
Thanks for explaining.
What is very strange is there seems to be a disparity between our individual engineers 🙀

My Mobile AWS always does the gas pressure drop test.
Tests the ignition of all gas appliances,
ensures the flame failure devices work
Checks correct combustion is taking place and no CO etc


All the 230v appliances are checked for operation including the RCDs and PCBs.
Tests the charging output of the on board charger.
Test battery voltage

There other things like the toilet cistern micro switch and the infamous fuse and it’s holder inside the toilet waste tank compartment. Fuse removed , all surfaces cleaned and reinstalled.
My chap certainly is not just a “switch flicker”.

I wonder how others find their engineers work?
I've always thought that the gas pressure test is a fundamental part of a service - they've always done it on on our caravans
 
The AWS only checks to see if they work and nothing else. If lights switch on and off, it is a pass as more than likely they are not electricians etc. To check and service the electrical system would be very expensive. Gas servicing is also an extra payment, but you can pay the bit extra for the gas pressure test. On a brand new caravan, I would suggest that the first three services are full services.

BB can buy the spray to check for CO if they have a CO monitor fitted in the caravan, but unlikely a caravan of that age will have the monitor fitted as standard. I guess it is up to BB to decide the best course of action and knowing BB always being very cautious he will have the full service..
Actually got woken up by some bleeping and it was this a Fireangel Carbon Monoxide Alarm C0 -9D they suppose to last 7 years sealed for life lithium battery same aged as our caravan it now disposed but will replaced like for like that on list next time we are there we have also got fireangle smoke alarm and that okay , last night was quiet
 
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Actually got woken up by some bleeping and it was this a Fireangel Carbon Monoxide Alarm C0 -9D they suppose to last 7 years sealed for life lithium battery same aged as our caravan it now disposed but will replaced like for like that on list next time we are there we have also got fireangle smoke alarm and that okay , last night was quiet
BB . Make sure you double check the BS number .
This guide below will tell you why you cannot use any old CO alarm in a caravan.
Note the number must end -2!
Understanding the Standards

  • BS EN 50291-1:This standard covers CO alarms for domestic premises and is suitable for many basic needs.
  • BS EN 50291-2:This standard builds on BS EN 50291-1 and includes additional testing and requirements to ensure the alarm is suitable for the unique environments of recreational vehicles like caravans and boats.
 
BB . Make sure you double check the BS number .
This guide below will tell you why you cannot use any old CO alarm in a caravan.
Note the number must end -2!
Understanding the Standards

  • BS EN 50291-1:This standard covers CO alarms for domestic premises and is suitable for many basic needs.
  • BS EN 50291-2:This standard builds on BS EN 50291-1 and includes additional testing and requirements to ensure the alarm is suitable for the unique environments of recreational vehicles like caravans and boats.
Hi Dusty I know but this one was in the caravan Fireangel carbon monoxide alarm CO-9D and they cost over £150 and when I contacted AWS caravan engineer he said they were excellent.
 
Hi Dusty I know but this one was in the caravan Fireangel carbon monoxide alarm CO-9D and they cost over £150 and when I contacted AWS caravan engineer he said they were excellent.
BB, yes I too have a Fireangel. The -2 is the important factor which you clearly have and know. I suspect a lot of caravanners are sadly unaware😉
 
BB I’ve used this company as they are quite clear in what duties their detector/alarms are designed for. Not all sellers give the BS number. £150 seems rather expensive for your OEM one.

 
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Hi Dusty I know but this one was in the caravan Fireangel carbon monoxide alarm CO-9D and they cost over £150 and when I contacted AWS caravan engineer he said they were excellent.
I just Googled that. I find prices up to £349. One for £166.

But this one seems genuine.

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Otherwise, mine expires in 2 years, I will start saving.

John
 
BB I’ve used this company as they are quite clear in what duties their detector/alarms are designed for. Not all sellers give the BS number. £159 seems rather expensive for your OEM one.

Wow! Amazingly cheap Clive.
I wonder how their spec etc compares with Fireangel? Which? Reviews perhaps?
Or has our Sam tested any?😉
 
Thanks for explaining.
What is very strange is there seems to be a disparity between our individual engineers 🙀

My Mobile AWS always does the gas pressure drop test.
Tests the ignition of all gas appliances,
ensures the flame failure devices work
Checks correct combustion is taking place and no CO etc


All the 230v appliances are checked for operation including the RCDs and PCBs.
Tests the charging output of the on board charger.
Test battery voltage

There other things like the toilet cistern micro switch and the infamous fuse and it’s holder inside the toilet waste tank compartment. Fuse removed , all surfaces cleaned and reinstalled.
My chap certainly is not just a “switch flicker”.

I wonder how others find their engineers work?
Those are only checks which is to be expected, but they do not service the gas or water systems. The gas pressure check is part of the service and if there is a leak, it is an extra cost for the repair. Those repairs are all extras.

Never ever had a tech remove the fuse for any micro switch and certainly don't expect them to remove it. RCDs etc are checked if paying for the full service.
 
Wow! Amazingly cheap Clive.
I wonder how their spec etc compares with Fireangel? Which? Reviews perhaps?
Or has our Sam tested any?😉
Not amazingly cheap just around the range of expected prices. £150 for an OEM installed alarm, doesn’t sound credible to me given the cheapskate approach taken by caravan makers. I tend to the view that if it meets the relevant BS, has the features I want and comes from a recognised manufacturer, then why bother complicating the issue further.

It’s interesting that safelincs.co.uk don’t sell a CO detector at anywhere near the price quoted by BB, so I’d question that price.
 

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