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Future of the spare wheel

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Dustydog said:
Many thanks to all the contributions.
My own take is that the lack of a spare wheel / tyre is nothing short of cost saving, paying no heed at all to the practicalities of motoring.
Most vehicles sold with these goo and pumps still have a proper spare wheel well and central fixing. Eg the Nissan Quashqai. It is worth noting that the no spare vehicles do not come with a wheel brace or jack. Give me a full size spare everyday on both car and caravan. At least I can rest assured if a puncture in the wilds happens I can continue my journey in a relatively short space of time 🙂
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Cheers for that Dusty,

I agree with what you say, and you bring a thought to mind.

My BMW 3 diesel estate did not have a space for even a skinny, BMW fully converted the already established rear wheel well to a accommodate a more important driver's aid. Please folks I am not boasting so don't be jealous, but I had only to lift the cover (over where the bloody spare wheel should have been) and take out my folding BMW labelled plasticnet fabric shopping basket :blink: :blink: :blink: :blink: :blink: :blink:

(certainly pulled in the dolly birds though 🙁 )

How freakishly (I did say "freakishly") dismal is an idea like that ???????????
 
.......I was never happy that my tow car had a full size steel spare wheel when new 😱hmy:

Discarded it for a matching brand new alloy from that well known auction site.
The chances of me having a caravan outfit without full size spare wheels and the means to change them are zero!
 
Gafferbill said:
.......I was never happy that my tow car had a full size steel spare wheel when new 😱hmy:

Discarded it for a matching brand new alloy from that well known auction site.
The chances of me having a caravan outfit without full size spare wheels and the means to change them are zero!
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What’s wrong with a full size steel spare wheel? Surely it does the job of enabling you to continue your journey without restriction introduced by goo or space savers.
 
Aesthetics 😉

............my 4x4 has the spare mounted on the back door.
The steel was relatively heavy .....looked awful and also had a hideous plastic cover that only half covered it.
.......a nice matching alloy mounted on the back door without the cover looks much better.
 
Dustydog said:
Many thanks to all the contributions.
My own take is that the lack of a spare wheel / tyre is nothing short of cost saving, paying no heed at all to the practicalities of motoring.
Most vehicles sold with these goo and pumps still have a proper spare wheel well and central fixing. Eg the Nissan Quashqai. It is worth noting that the no spare vehicles do not come with a wheel brace or jack. Give me a full size spare everyday on both car and caravan. At least I can rest assured if a puncture in the wilds happens I can continue my journey in a relatively short space of time 🙂
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It's not just cost. The main reason IMHO is weight. In order to improve fuel consumption you need to reduce vehicle weight. As anyone who has heaved a spare out of the boot will attest, they're bl**dy heavy.

However, I'd rather have a full sized one, as a "biscuit" leaves you with limited speed and range...
 
I always thought it was the size which caused the car manufacturers a problem nowadays. The width of a modern car tyres compared to 30 years ago makes it almost impossible to fit it in a well, just putting a punctured tyre in the boot a while back made me realised just how enormous they are.

I totally agree I would not buy a.car with no spare, we did look at one in August, the sales guy blithely told us we just attached the cylinder, pressed a button and drive off again, he did then admit that we'd have to buy a new tyre, we walked away. Apparently it's the norm in hybrids, just no space for all the batteries and a fuel tank, so the spare goes.

The caravan has one, and again this makes me feel much happier.
 
When I was working in the car industry it was the weight of the spare which was the reason for deleting it. There was a rulle of thumb that every kilogramme extra kerbweight increased the fuel consumption and consequently the exhaust emissions by a certain amount (I can't recall the actual figure) so a lot of effort was put into reducing kerbweight, even it were only by small amounts. As they said, every litlle bit helps.
 
Lutz said:
When I was working in the car industry it was the weight of the spare which was the reason for deleting it. There was a rulle of thumb that every kilogramme extra kerbweight increased the fuel consumption and consequently the exhaust emissions by a certain amount (I can't recall the actual figure) so a lot of effort was put into reducing kerbweight, even it were only by small amounts. As they said, every litlle bit helps.
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Very interesting Lutz. There’s hope for a return of the Reliant Robin and Bond Bug 😛 😛 😛
 
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