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I just went to put caravan fire on as normal but after a couple of minutes it went out. Then a massive bang and the flume on top of the caravan flu off when it is I don't then a second bang so I have left the caravan. I am indoors now not sure what to do cos I don't want to mess about with gas. To tell you the truth I am a bit shocked and shook up. My son was in his bedroom listening to his radio with earphones on and can running out to me saying what was that bang he heard it above his headphones?
 
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Firstly I support the previous comments, as gas safety is paramount.

However if this has recently occurred, its possibly down to the temperature and type of gas being used.

With recent low temperatures, Butane gas does not perform well at ambient temperatures below 5C. It has trouble vaporising inside the gas cylinder causing low pressure or even stopping the flow entirely. High consumption items like the gas fire will further reduce the cylinders temperature that can give rise to unstable gas flows. This might have caused the issue you have experienced.

You should swap to Propane gas for use in near zero C ambient temperatures.
 
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@Yellows11 look on the mobile caravan engineers website (www.mobilecaravenengineers.co.uk and tick 'find an engineer' . I was sorting out a clients leaking tap when an adjacent caravan did the same , the top of the flue landed about 20 foot away, one very shocked caravaner .The problem is the auto ignitor sometimes fails to light the gas , but the gas continues to flow, mixing with air and fills the flue, then the igniter fires it resulting in a large bang, fortunately because both the inlet and flue are not sealed it seldom damages the system. On manual ignitors , pressing the gas valve and pressing that horrible piezo ignitor where you only get one chance, unless you continually press it, if after 20 seconds it doesn't light , let go and leave it a minute for the gas to clear out of the flue
 
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As an add on, if the caravan is parked near a wall, and the wind is blowing, it can stop the flue from operating correctly causing the gas to build up, ignition of the gas, causing a rapid ignition, which then blows out the flame, fresh gas mixes again and the cycle is repeated.
A friend of mine had this happen on his Sterling Eccles Jewel.
 
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Hello Yellows, whilst the make of caravan is not especially relevant, make model and age of the heater is important. I suspect the forum members have been assuming you some type of Truma or Carver heater which were very similar products. However if it is a Carver model, that makes it at least 24years old, and whilst many will still function quite well, there are reasons why they should be checked(not necessarily taken apart) annually as they age. As you tell us the flue cap was blown off, that should just screw back in place. It was designed to be able to flip out should you encounter a low branch when towing.

As for explosive ignition, you tell us your using Propane which is the better gas in near or below freezing temperatures.

Assuming the heater is in good functional condition, generally once these heaters are lit, the only things that will stop them is exceptional air flow issues around the caravan. If a caravan is parked next to a building, the corners of the building can affect wind direction and strength. If these compromise the flow around flue, excessive pressure may prevent the flue gassed from leaving the flue pipe. This causes the flue gassed to build up in the pipe and eventually baffle the flame on the burner causing it to usually turn candle yellow, if this is sustained, the flame will be starved of air and it will go out.

The heaters flame failure device usually takes between 10 and 30 seconds to cool down enough to close the gas valve, so during this period gas is still being injected and a small excess of combustible mixture can build up below the burner bar. If the baffling is relieved and the natural convection of the flue restblished before the flame failure device (FFD) closes the gas valve, the fresh gas and air mixture will move up into the burner area. In your case you must have a battery operated reigniter. This independently monitors for the presence of a flame using the electrical conductivity of a flame. It will automatically turn on a series of sparks, when the flame is lost. As the excess mass of premixed gas and air reaches the spark probe, it will all reigniter vigorously, and that is the most likely cause of your bang.

If the heater is very old, some internal parts can corroded. I have seen burner assemblies which have lost parts of thier tops which prevents a stable flame from establishing.

So a proper heater service(which needs an internal inspection) I think might be called for.

To prevent or reduce wind issues try and move the caravan away from the building. If it happens on site, sometimes turning the caravans direction a little can make a big difference. In exceptional circumstances you get extension flue pipes that screw in to raise the top of the flue.
 
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I don't know if it makes any difference but the gas bottle as run out? Plus the heater is a truma I will post model number later.
Oh yes that can make a difference.

When a gas cylinder is full it contains both gas vapour and liquified gas held under pressure. The liquid will always drop to the lowest point and the vapour will be at the top. The types of bottle used for caravans must be "Vapour Take Off cylinders these have the valve at the top of the cylinder.

The cylinder actually works by using the heat available in the cylinder to boil the liquified gas which produces vapour, as the vapour collects it pressurises the cylinder until the pressure of the vapour matches the boiling pressure of the liquefied content, and it suppresses the boiling. The whole thing dependant on the ambient air temperature around the cylinder. If ambient temperature goes up so will the pressure inside the cylinder, and vice versa.

But also as you use gas, the fact the liquified gas tries to boil off more vapour, uses some heat energy of the cylinder, and it actually cools the cylinder down a bit. That is why you will often find condensation on the outside of working gas cylinder, and in extreme cases frost can form (Ever seen roofers with frosted bottles? incidentally they use Propane)

The common gasses for caravanning are Butane which is good for ambient temperatures above 5C but Propane will continue to work down as low as -40C

Because the cylinder need free access to the ambient air temp to work, never put any sort of thermal insulation around the cylinders.

But the reason I said the fact your Propane gas cylinder was near empty might affect your experience, is that once all the liquified gas has been boiled off there is no way to replenish the gas pressure, so as you use it , the pressure will diminish far more quickly. Not only will the pressure diminish the cylinder but as the gas is released it continues to use the heat energy from the atmosphere to drive the expansion so it can cool, and that can limit gas delivery, until the cylinder warms up a bit more.

This might have occured with your caravan heater.
 
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Somewhere I read about a regulator freezing up and allowing an increase in pressure, apparently the bottle was outside the caravan
 

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