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After saying to my husband that I wouldn't like to live in London,Iwas amazed to see the news tonight.

What do forum members feel about the death penalty for these terrorists?
 

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I saw it on the news too Maureen, terrible business.

I don't know if it was a terrorist attack yet as the Police arn't saying.

Yes, bring back the death penalty.

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Sep 14, 2006
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I'm sorry but the death penalty is too good for these people, if this country brought it back then it would have to be a humane way to protect their human rights. What about the human rights of the people they have killed or wounded ?

These people do not care about the western way of life, so back in their country of original origin they would be stoned to death or publicaly hanged, or a better way would let the relatives of those murdered loose on them.

I do not wish to offend anyone, I know not all Muslims are terrorists its just that all terrorists are Muslim.
 
May 10, 2007
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Having followed the car bomb London story and the Glasgow story this afternoon.

BBC "We don't know that its is a terrorist attack"

How about - two scots guys upset with Easy Jet and Cat Stevens latest Yusuf offering so they dress up as Asians and attack an Airport.

On second thoughts

Terrorist's

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May 10, 2007
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Having followed the car bomb London story and the Glasgow story this afternoon.

BBC "We don't know that its is a terrorist attack"

How about - two scots guys upset with Easy Jet and Cat Stevens latest Yusuf offering so they dress up as Asians and attack an Airport.

On second thoughts

Terrorist's

Ria
 
Mar 14, 2005
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As previously stated there is good and bad in all society. I will say though that as stated in the Bible "A tooth for a tooth" but on the other hand "Thou shalt not kill". Which option do we adopt. If any person from abroad should wish to take up British citizenship then they must accept and live by British ways, laws and culture. If any foreigner breaks the law in this country they deserve to be penalised which should include deportation back to their country of origin. As far as the law is concerned the paenalty should fit the crime ie rape - they should be castrated, theft - have their hand amputated, murder then the death penalty. If the nations abroad can still carry out these laws with no worry of the PC brigade then why not Britain. If we were to commit a crime in their country then we would be punsihed according to their laws without interfearence from the PC brigade. If it is good enough for their country then it should also be good enough for us.
 
Feb 3, 2006
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I'm sorry but the death penalty is too good for these people, if this country brought it back then it would have to be a humane way to protect their human rights. What about the human rights of the people they have killed or wounded ?

These people do not care about the western way of life, so back in their country of original origin they would be stoned to death or publicaly hanged, or a better way would let the relatives of those murdered loose on them.

I do not wish to offend anyone, I know not all Muslims are terrorists its just that all terrorists are Muslim.
The IRA was a Muslim organisation then was it ?
 
Jan 19, 2008
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I'm sorry but the death penalty is too good for these people, if this country brought it back then it would have to be a humane way to protect their human rights. What about the human rights of the people they have killed or wounded ?

These people do not care about the western way of life, so back in their country of original origin they would be stoned to death or publicaly hanged, or a better way would let the relatives of those murdered loose on them.

I do not wish to offend anyone, I know not all Muslims are terrorists its just that all terrorists are Muslim.
We are no longer dealing with the IRA. We are dealing with religious fanatics whose self proclaimed aim is the Islamisation of Britain.
 
Jan 19, 2008
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The people who want to live here should sign a declaration that they will integrate, abide by our laws and customs and learn our language. My daughter is married but if, when she was younger she wanted to marry someone, whether they be white, brown, yellow or blue with pink stripes, I couldn't care less as long as they were a decent, law abiding person who had integrated into British society.

The people who don't, and will never fit in, are muslims. Their religious masters whinge that the police are targeting them but cannot see the reasons why, are they that stupid. It's not Hindus, Jews, Budhists or Sikhs that are blowing up innocents of all creeds and cultures.

Multi-culturism will never work and even the idiots who have encouraged it like no other government before are having second thoughts. Like Dr. Carey, the ex Archbishop of Canterbury said, we are a Christian country and should stay that way. It's a pity he didn't have the courage to speak out when he was in office.

This government want to jail suspected terrorists but when the Judges follow the letter of the law, laws in the Human Rights charter that the government signed up to, and release suspects it is beyond this idiotic PC government to understand why they are released.

Only today a magistrate is in trouble for refusing to sit in judgement of a female dressed in a niqab. How does he know who was under that clothing? She will now sue, which she is doing, and will probably get awarded thousands for stress.

This country is truly sick and someone, somewhere, as got to rescue it from the fast spiral that it's in.

Where this person is going to appear from I know not but we haven't got long. The Shadow cabinet with Call Me Dave in charge doesn't fill me with hope, just despair.
 
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I would also like to add that Pakistan is a Muslim country, like Britain is a Christian one. If Muslims who come here don't like our customs, traditions, religion, language, culture and prefer their own theres a simple answer, go back home.
 
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This is a copy of an email I recieved from a friend down south. Due to recent events it certainly makeds one think!

We should take a lesson from the Australians!

Muslims who want to live under Islamic Sharia law were told on Wednesday to get out of Australia, as the government targeted radicals in a bid to head off potential terror attacks.

A day after a group of mainstream Muslim leaders pledged loyalty to Australia and her Queen at a special meeting with Prime Minister John Howard, he and his Ministers made it clear that extremists would face a crackdown.

Treasurer Peter Costello, seen as heir apparent to Howard, hinted that some radical clerics could be asked to leave the country if they did not accept that Australia was a secular state, and its laws were made by parliament. "If those are not your values, if you want a country which has Sharia law or a theocratic state, then Australia is not for you", he said on National Television.

"I'd be saying to clerics who are teaching that there are two laws governing people in Australia: one the Australian law and another Islamic law that is false. If you can't agree with parliamentary law, independent courts, democracy, and would prefer Sharia law and have the opportunity to go to another country, which practices it, perhaps, then, that's a better option", Costello said.

Asked whether he meant radical clerics would be forced to leave, he said those with dual citizenship could possibly be asked to move to the other country.

Education Minister Brendan Nelson later told reporters that Muslims who did not want to accept local values should "clear off. Basically people who don't want to be Australians, and who don't want to live by Australian values and understand them, well then, they can basically clear off", he said.

Separately, Howard angered some Australian Muslims on Wednesday by saying he supported spy agencies monitoring the nation's mosques.

Quote: "IMMIGRANTS, NOT AUSTRALIANS, MUST ADAPT. Take It Or Leave It. I am tired of this nation worrying about whether we are offending some individual or their culture. Since the terrorist attacks on Bali, we have experienced a surge in patriotism by the majority of Australians."

"However, the dust from the attacks had barely settled when the 'politically correct' crowd began complaining about the possibility that our patriotism was offending others. I am not against immigration, nor do I hold a grudge against anyone who is seeking a better life by coming to Australia." "However, there are a few things that those who have recently come to our country, and apparently some born here, need to understand." "This idea of Australia being a multi-cultural community has served only to dilute our sovereignty and our national identity. And as Australians, we have our own culture, our own society, our own language and our own lifestyle."

"This culture has been developed over two centuries of struggles, trials and victories by millions of men and women who have sought freedom"

"We speak mainly ENGLISH, not Spanish, Lebanese, Arabic, Chinese, Japanese, Russian, or any other language. Therefore, if you wish to become part of our society . Learn the language!"

"Most Australians believe in God. This is not some Christian, right wing, political push, but a fact, because Christian men and women, on Christian principles, founded this nation, and this is clearly documented. It is certainly appropriate to display it on the walls of our schools. If God offends you, then I suggest you consider another part of the world as your new home, because God is part of our culture."

"We will accept your beliefs, and will not question why. All we ask is that you accept ours, and live in harmony and peaceful enjoyment with us."

"If the Southern Cross offends you, or you don't like "A Fair Go", then you should seriously consider a move to another part of this planet. We are happy with our culture and have no desire to change, and we really don't care how you did things where you came from. By all means, keep your culture, but do not force it on others.

"This is OUR COUNTRY, OUR LAND, and OUR LIFESTYLE, and we will allow you every opportunity to enjoy all this. But once you are done complaining, whining, and griping about Our Flag, Our Pledge, Our Christian beliefs, or Our Way of Life, I highly encourage you take advantage of one other great Australian freedom,

'THE RIGHT TO LEAVE'."

"If you aren't happy here then LEAVE. We didn't force you to come here. You asked to be here. So accept the country YOU accepted."

Maybe if we circulate this amongst ourselves, Canadian, American and European citizens will find the backbone to start speaking and voicing the same truths !
 
Feb 3, 2006
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We are no longer dealing with the IRA. We are dealing with religious fanatics whose self proclaimed aim is the Islamisation of Britain.
I maintain that a sweeping statement that all terrorists are Muslim is totally inaccurate, what about ETA ? The fact is that all acts of terrorism are despicable. Usually, but not always, carried out by a minority who can't get a majority by democratic means.This forum, which purports to be a caravan forum sometimes slips into a racist mouthpiece about immigrant labour and Muslim terrorists.

Now, what about the 85% ratio !!!!!!!!!
 
Jan 19, 2008
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Rioja, your comment, albeit hidden among the comments, doesn't address Danny's post at all.

*I maintain that a sweeping statement that all terrorists are Muslim is totally inaccurate, what about ETA ? The fact is that all acts of terrorism are despicable. Usually, but not always, carried out by a minority who can't get a majority by democratic means.This forum, which purports to be a caravan forum sometimes slips into a racist mouthpiece about immigrant labour and Muslim terrorists.

Now, what about the 85% ratio !!!!!!!!!*

As I said, the IRA are no longer and it's not ETA bombing the U.K., it is the Muslim threat we are dealing with. Danny also said that not all Muslims are terrorists. Does by mentioning that its a Muslim threat make Danny, or anyone else for that matter, a racist? No it doesn't, this is not about race, it's about religious fanatics who want to change our way of life by the Islamisation of Britain, that's by their own admission. As soon as people like yourself stop playing the racism card the better, this is oxygen to those people.

Now to your comment about caravanning issues. Please go to the top and read what it says,

Chit-chat

For non-caravan issues: jokes, trivia, gossip.

Does the 85% rule you mention mean the 15% wanting to tell the 85% what to post?
 
Jan 19, 2008
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This is a copy of an email I recieved from a friend down south. Due to recent events it certainly makeds one think!

We should take a lesson from the Australians!

Muslims who want to live under Islamic Sharia law were told on Wednesday to get out of Australia, as the government targeted radicals in a bid to head off potential terror attacks.

A day after a group of mainstream Muslim leaders pledged loyalty to Australia and her Queen at a special meeting with Prime Minister John Howard, he and his Ministers made it clear that extremists would face a crackdown.

Treasurer Peter Costello, seen as heir apparent to Howard, hinted that some radical clerics could be asked to leave the country if they did not accept that Australia was a secular state, and its laws were made by parliament. "If those are not your values, if you want a country which has Sharia law or a theocratic state, then Australia is not for you", he said on National Television.

"I'd be saying to clerics who are teaching that there are two laws governing people in Australia: one the Australian law and another Islamic law that is false. If you can't agree with parliamentary law, independent courts, democracy, and would prefer Sharia law and have the opportunity to go to another country, which practices it, perhaps, then, that's a better option", Costello said.

Asked whether he meant radical clerics would be forced to leave, he said those with dual citizenship could possibly be asked to move to the other country.

Education Minister Brendan Nelson later told reporters that Muslims who did not want to accept local values should "clear off. Basically people who don't want to be Australians, and who don't want to live by Australian values and understand them, well then, they can basically clear off", he said.

Separately, Howard angered some Australian Muslims on Wednesday by saying he supported spy agencies monitoring the nation's mosques.

Quote: "IMMIGRANTS, NOT AUSTRALIANS, MUST ADAPT. Take It Or Leave It. I am tired of this nation worrying about whether we are offending some individual or their culture. Since the terrorist attacks on Bali, we have experienced a surge in patriotism by the majority of Australians."

"However, the dust from the attacks had barely settled when the 'politically correct' crowd began complaining about the possibility that our patriotism was offending others. I am not against immigration, nor do I hold a grudge against anyone who is seeking a better life by coming to Australia." "However, there are a few things that those who have recently come to our country, and apparently some born here, need to understand." "This idea of Australia being a multi-cultural community has served only to dilute our sovereignty and our national identity. And as Australians, we have our own culture, our own society, our own language and our own lifestyle."

"This culture has been developed over two centuries of struggles, trials and victories by millions of men and women who have sought freedom"

"We speak mainly ENGLISH, not Spanish, Lebanese, Arabic, Chinese, Japanese, Russian, or any other language. Therefore, if you wish to become part of our society . Learn the language!"

"Most Australians believe in God. This is not some Christian, right wing, political push, but a fact, because Christian men and women, on Christian principles, founded this nation, and this is clearly documented. It is certainly appropriate to display it on the walls of our schools. If God offends you, then I suggest you consider another part of the world as your new home, because God is part of our culture."

"We will accept your beliefs, and will not question why. All we ask is that you accept ours, and live in harmony and peaceful enjoyment with us."

"If the Southern Cross offends you, or you don't like "A Fair Go", then you should seriously consider a move to another part of this planet. We are happy with our culture and have no desire to change, and we really don't care how you did things where you came from. By all means, keep your culture, but do not force it on others.

"This is OUR COUNTRY, OUR LAND, and OUR LIFESTYLE, and we will allow you every opportunity to enjoy all this. But once you are done complaining, whining, and griping about Our Flag, Our Pledge, Our Christian beliefs, or Our Way of Life, I highly encourage you take advantage of one other great Australian freedom,

'THE RIGHT TO LEAVE'."

"If you aren't happy here then LEAVE. We didn't force you to come here. You asked to be here. So accept the country YOU accepted."

Maybe if we circulate this amongst ourselves, Canadian, American and European citizens will find the backbone to start speaking and voicing the same truths !
Totally agree with this but unfortunately in this country there is nobody with the backbone to even whisper those words, the minorities who play the racism card are waiting to pounce.

Is it just a coincidence that civil liberties and human rights lawyers are mostly of foreign extraction?

I would add to those words though and that is this,

"any Australians who do not agree with the elected governments sentiments are free to leave the country and live anywhere of their choice".
 
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Actually Braykewynd old boy, my reply was not intended to be hidden, but you can hardly come back with a reply on the back of the last post if it has nothing to do with what you intend posting about.
 
Jan 19, 2008
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Actually Braykewynd old boy, my reply was not intended to be hidden, but you can hardly come back with a reply on the back of the last post if it has nothing to do with what you intend posting about.
.. and what did I post that was inappropriate to the topic Rioja me ol' butty :O)
 
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I maintain that a sweeping statement that all terrorists are Muslim is totally inaccurate, what about ETA ? The fact is that all acts of terrorism are despicable. Usually, but not always, carried out by a minority who can't get a majority by democratic means.This forum, which purports to be a caravan forum sometimes slips into a racist mouthpiece about immigrant labour and Muslim terrorists.

Now, what about the 85% ratio !!!!!!!!!
You can always be relied on to be controversial.
 
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I think that these terrorists of today, Muslim or non Muslim are totaly different than the like of the IRA.

Todays terrorist is, like many have stated, a religious fanatic who think the likes of us are the infidell's, and they who blow themselves up are going to a better place.

I beleive yesterdays failed attack at Glasgow was a botched suicide attack and the two bombers panicked when the car hit the building and did not blow up.
 
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I'm not a religious person so, unlike the muslim bombers, theres little chance of myself being brainwashed. What I do find unbelievable is that they actually believe their Mullahs teachings, that by killing non-believers they will go to Paradise. If there is such a God as Allah I'm sure he would send them straight to hell.
 
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.. and what did I post that was inappropriate to the topic Rioja me ol' butty :O)
I didn't say you posted anything controversial !

Sorry this reply is buried out of sight, you may not even find it but it's the only way to respond directly to your comment.
 
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The two detained at Glasgow do not deserve any representation in a British court of law, in my eyes they cannot be any more guilty than they already are. All any lawyer will do is try and protect their human rights and make sure they get a fair trial.

As far as I am concerned they should strap them in a car and set it on fire and phone the fire brigade and say dont rush............
 

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