Green? But rather in the dark!

Mar 26, 2008
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Since springtime we've come by numerous "green" low energy light bulbs.

Gas and Electric Suppliers and others have sent us low energy light bulbs in nice little box's with a variety of notes about saving energy.

The bulbs all bar one are dimmer than a brace of Labour MP's, is it us or do others feel their way around their homes in semi darkness? I now have a life times supply of bulbs for our understairs cupboards and the pantry as they are the only places they are suitable for and we're not going to save much electricity using them in those places.

Transit costs, packaging, useless leaflets and the wasted resources used making bulbs we don't need must add to global warming if such a thing exists.

The bulbs seen to be an ecological disaster in the making if others have recieved as many useless bulbs as us or a potential household danger as people stumble about in victorian gas lamp lighting conditions.
 
Jul 15, 2005
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No it's just your eyesight failing with increasing age.

We've used LEL for 5 or more years - and basically the manufacturers suggestions need to be taken with a pince of salt.

They normally recommended replacing a 80 Watt incandescent with a 16 Watt - but I feel 20 watts is a more representative replacement

And if the LEL bulb is a multi-layered bulb then add in a bit more - if you can see the coiled or spiral fluorescent tube then it's a single layer bulb - and these are the brightest watt for watt. If it has a glass cover and looks like an old style bulb, then that's multi-skinned and cuts out some of the light and all of the UV from the bulb...

Robert
 
Mar 14, 2005
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And they take longer to "warm up" to their best light, which is still a long way poorer than incandescent bulbs, therefore encouraging us to leave them switched on to save the warm-up period. On behalf of a local charity, I was once asked to give away a box of sixty of these things. It took nearly two years, cos no-one wanted them! All in all, they are a complete waste of time.
 
Mar 26, 2008
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Doh! Are you boys on something strong?

My point exactly Robert, the latest offering is a box of four bulbs. 2 x 8W and 2 x 11W.

My eyes are fine, the bulbs are just a waste of time and resources!

When I walk in a room or the front door I like to be able to see when the light is switched on.
 
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It came as a surprise to read this. We started using lel bulbs 5 years ago and have the whole house done now.

Recent bulbs start almost instantly although the light emitted is 'colder' than old fashioned bulbs. Once we were used to the change I can't see any reason to revert.

I have a range of 8w - 12w depending on the room size.

I started with lights that were left on for hours or all night by mistake such as the garage and outside lights.

I'll save the planet for you if you like. :0)

How much do people pay for their monthly Electric?

I know it's a bit of a how longs a piece of string question.

There are 4 of us in a reasonably average house, cook on Elec, have dishwasher,run washing machine about daily, heating is Gas, probably 2 tv's on average during an eve, we pay about
 
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I tried one of e 11W bulbs in our cloakroom and its to dim to see myself in the mirror clearly, daughter and my sister even commented on how dim the light was.

The new lamps are a little faster to start than earlier bulbs but not as good as a regular bulb.

Electric bill probably nearer
 
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Yes per week, we have our toys and a home gym, sauna and small pool that family and friends use. My two kids are adults and have their own homes.

But we don't pay anything like you do for water. Just paid
 

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