Haggis is not originally a Scottish dish!

[Buckman]

The origin of haggis – made of offal, oats and spices and famously served with 'neeps' (turnips) and 'tatties' (potatoes) – appears to be English. The first recorded recipes using the name 'hagws' or 'hagese' come from English cookbooks in the 15th century. No mention of haggis appears in any 'identifiably Scottish text' until 1513, when it briefly appears in a verse by William Dunbar, a Scottish poet and priest at the court of James IV. But this is nearly 100 years after the earliest recording of a haggis recipe, in an English cookery book called 'Liber Cure Cocorum' dating from around the year 1430 and originating in Lancashire.

Seems we have been misled for many years? LOL!

 

[RogerL]

Maybe the Scots just didn't write the recipe down

 

[Dustydog]

Whilst it is well known to be the National dish of the Scots I doubt they can claim its origin. There’s plenty of evidence that suggests the Romans invented it maintaining part of the food supply to their Legions.

I found this bit
It was long popular in England, as English writer Gervase Markham (c. 1568–1637) testified in The English Huswife (1615). Its origin, however, is still more ancient, for Marcus Apicius, Aristophanes, and even Homer allude to dishes of similar composition. The derivation of the term haggis, first attested in the 15th century, is unknown.

Hutch will now rewrite history and claim it was invented by Aberdonians as perfect fit for their Sporrans.

 

[Hutch]

No, Sporrans, were used to carry, slices of Porridge, which were used as bait to catch Wild Haggis.

View: https://youtu.be/SJ8-C_CvBh8?feature=shared

 

[Buckman]

Same with whisky which I am told originated in Ireland and not Scotland. Not sure how true that is?

 

[toad a caravan]

That Hutch reminds me of the time I went haggis hunting with my lasso and came across a local carrying two fresh salmon,I asked him were they wild when he caught them,"Wild,,,,,Wild " no Mon they were furious!😁

 

[Dustydog]

Same with whisky which I am told originated in Ireland and not Scotland. Not sure how true that is?

Chicken or the Egg?

Distilling potatoes , barley , wheat, rice was the poor farm labourers only bit of pleasure from the days of Adam and Eve. Note the difference in spelling of Whisky.
Scots were first 🙀😉

 

[Hutch]

That Hutch reminds me of the time I went haggis hunting with my lasso and came across a local carrying two fresh salmon,I asked him were they wild when he caught them,"Wild,,,,,Wild " no Mon they were furious!😁

Just down the Coast across the Border at Sellafield, you can get a lovely Hind leg of Salmon

 

[Hutch]

My Stepfather who was a Cocktail barman, and had a lovely Cocktail "sliderule" for drinks, was given a Bottle of Japanese "Whiskey " that had won a silver award.
It was absolutely lovely.

 

[JTQ]

IMO, its a pity it ever was invented whoever is to "blame".

That said, those that like it can willing have and I hope they enjoy my share.

 

[Hutch]

IMO, its a pity it ever was invented whoever is to "blame".

That said, those that like it can willing have and I hope they enjoy my share.

Haggis from a butcher, or even Tesco and Sainsbury's, tastes very similar to Faggots which I believe to be an English and Welsh Delicasie.
But , the French version, Andullete, my dog would not eat that, even though the butcher in Chablis Won several Medals for production.

 

[otherclive]

Haggis from a butcher, or even Tesco and Sainsbury's, tastes very similar to Faggots which I believe to be an English and Welsh Delicasie.
But , the French version, Andullete, my dog would not eat that, even though the butcher in Chablis Won several Medals for production.

Haggis is far nicer than the andouillette, which has the smell of a well used farmyard.

 

[borderbilly]

Blasphemy , its all blasphemy, how dare you lot insult us Jocks! You are all banned from entering Scotland with your vans!

 

[Buckman]

Blasphemy , its all blasphemy, how dare you lot insult us Jocks! You are all banned from entering Scotland with your vans!

Why would us English who invented haggis be insulting you jocks or do jocks come south of the border to buy their haggis and whisky?

 

[Dustydog]

Just down the Coast across the Border at Sellafield, you can get a lovely Hind leg of Salmon

Or Baked Alaska😜

 

[Sam Vimes]

Just down the Coast across the Border at Sellafield, you can get a lovely Hind leg of Salmon

Which apparently glows in the dark.

 

[borderbilly]

Lunch today on hot buttered toast, left over from last night, food of the gods!

 

[Buckman]

Lunch today on hot buttered toast, left over from last night, food of the gods!

No wonder the gods are not around any more!

 

[borderbilly]

No wonder the gods are not around any more!

As long as the haggis gods are 😀

 

[Beachball]

Lunch today on hot buttered toast, left over from last night, food of the gods!

Looks very yummy enjoy

 

[Devonisheaven]

Just the same with the Pasty………..Not a Cornish invention. 👍

 

[Hutch]

Just the same with the Pasty………..Not a Cornish invention. 👍

Oh, don't tell us it was originally from Devon,
It was copied from a Bedfordshire Clanger.

 

[Dustydog]

Oh, don't tell us it was originally from Devon,
It was copied from a Bedfordshire Clanger.

Apparently the original “pasty” recipe was found in the old archives at Mount Edgecombe near Kingsand Devon dated 1510 some 236 years before the first Cornish recipe was found. However there is evidence , not a recipe , that Cornish Tin miners wives packed the lunches in “pasties” back the 12 th Century.

And to put the cat among the pigeons the Haggis may not be a Scottish invention. Its origins lie in Ancient Greece🤪🤪🤪

 

[toad a caravan]

Devon pasties, created in Devon.Refined In Cornwall,proper job 🙂🥟

 

[Hutch]

Devon pasties, created in Devon.Refined In Cornwall,proper job 🙂🥟

From the recipe, for a Bedfordshire Clanger.