Has anyone used homebrew sterilising fluid to clean caravan water pipes as some are non rinse
- Thread starter Ryland Williams
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I don't understand why you can't use puriclean which is safe for use in caravan water tanks, and a flush through with fresh, but brewing steriliser would probably do the same job-just not sure if it's safe for the metals in the hot water heating tank/jacket?
Damian
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Whatever make of sterilser you use , despite the claims of "no rinse" you should always rinse the system through after leaving for the recommended time to work.
The human body is NOT equipped to deal with biocides, which is what most sterilsers are made up of.
The human body is NOT equipped to deal with biocides, which is what most sterilsers are made up of.
Fresh water. You can add some home brew cleansers to warm water and cleanse every surface your beer comes into contact with. Non rinse means that unlike some cleansers, you don't have to run clean, cold water through after the steriliser, which saves time
But surely you would-it's very simple, takes nearly no time at all if you are set up to put the sterilizer through anyway-literally minutes.? REgardless of what they say , as Damian says, this sort of stuff isn't meant to be drunk!
I take your point Jezzer B. Many fermenters are manufactured from food grade stainless steel, I would assume caravan tanks are the same. Having looked at the instructions for the steriliser mentioned in this thread. Its supposed to be held in tanks and pipes for 12 hours.
Whilst I 'm not advocating doing a Donald Trump ( drinking bleach to stop covid!!!), homebrewers use diluted, non rinse steriliser to sterlise beer bottles, fermenters etc. - which do not kill the yeast, and certainly do not need 12 hours to work, hence a time reduction on sterilising pipes. Has anyone looked at it or taken advice on it, been advised for or against? Just askin
Whilst I 'm not advocating doing a Donald Trump ( drinking bleach to stop covid!!!), homebrewers use diluted, non rinse steriliser to sterlise beer bottles, fermenters etc. - which do not kill the yeast, and certainly do not need 12 hours to work, hence a time reduction on sterilising pipes. Has anyone looked at it or taken advice on it, been advised for or against? Just askin
I’ve never used Puriclens for longer than an hour or two in my caravan systems and then flushed them out with fresh water. Not had any stomach issues from caravan water supplies and in most cases we used the supply from the Aquaroll for drinking too. Don’t the instructions say 1 to 12 hours?
PS I only tended to sterilise at the start of the season and then before any prolonged storage.
We do the same. I think Puriclens does a good job but does need quite a bit of flushing. We don’t drink the water, but use some for cooking. If not fully flushed, at first, it can be smelled when having a hot shower.
John
Hi Ryland, I have never thought about home brew steralisers, I do the same as OC, Puriclean for about 1 to 2 hours, then a rinse out . And we drink from the caravan system, we get through about 1 to 2 aqua rolls a day, using our shower and washing in the van, no real stagnant water in ours
Never use home brew steriliser always Puriclean and then flushed it out with fresh water in our caravan
For years, I've popped a couple of Sainsbury Baby Bottle sterilizing tablets in the half-full Aquaroll, then pumped it through to the taps. After leaving it for a short while, I've drained the system and refilled with fresh water. And does it harm the stainless steel? The last time I fitted a new heating element, the tank was shiny and bright inside.
I think both the tablets for baby bottle sterilisation and Milton work in the same way by releasing chlorine as the sterilisation chemical. Stainless can be attacked by the chlorine that’s why advice tends to be not to use it.
Saying that I used Milton for many years but at low strength and like Jaydug it wasn’t left in fir very long. Even with Puriclens it only stayed in the system for no more than two hours, more often than not one hour. And in the latter years as the van was used right into New Year and again in March the system was only sterilised once per year in March.
Is it not way best to use the "right" product, one approved by the makers of the kit involved, here the likes of Truma, Whale, or Alde as possible examples, than try to outsmart them using something else?
Or is it just me, that feels the makers know best re caring for the kit they manufacture?
There are undoubtedly dangers in initiating pitting and crevis corrosion on stainless steels with the use of products and procedures not approved.
Or is it just me, that feels the makers know best re caring for the kit they manufacture?
There are undoubtedly dangers in initiating pitting and crevis corrosion on stainless steels with the use of products and procedures not approved.
Although I seem to recall that on earlier caravans sterilising fluids like Milton were ok’d in the Owners Manual. Or is my memory fading? When Puricleans came along I changed to using it.
In 2010 the CC (CMHC) were advising go by Truma/Carver recommendations with one of the advised fluids as Milton2. Now the CMHC are far more general with no chemicals mentioned. it is not 'outsmarting " the makers but a recognition that things change over time and not everyone moves at the same speed.
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No of course "we" did not buy in the chemicals, nor did we make the care products we approved.
We did though test what we approved, and also we neither tested nor approved those where it was evident, they contained "stuff" or had application procedures we knew, even without testing, could result in damaging our kit.
The 2010 Caravan Club advise sheet on water systems makes interesting reading particularly the piece provided by Kings Lynn Environmental Health Department. Bit OTT or what.
https://www.caravanclub.co.uk/media/1022808/water-matters-mo.pdf
https://www.caravanclub.co.uk/media/1022808/water-matters-mo.pdf
Interesting link and good for newbies to read plus a refresher for us oldies. Many years ago we were on a seasonal pitch. We went in the morning to top up the water barrel and someone had empty the contents of the cassette at the tap.
This tap had no drain under it. Very unpleasant. Luckily we had disinfectant in the caravan and gave the tap a thorough clean.
We suspect that it was some newbies that had arrived the day before and left very early in the morning as they were the only caravan that had left early.
That link is 2010. The latest CMHC page is far more generalised. Times move on I guess.
That can't be right! Take a look at the Product Safety Data for Puriclens Tablets. One of the listed ingredients is "Chlorine-based bleaching agents."
https://tubingchina.com/Selection-of-Stainless-Steel-for-Handling-Chlorine-Cl2-and-Chlorine-Dioxide-ClO2.htm#:~:text=Chlorine is a powerful oxidising agent. It normally,in water it can be a corrosion hazard.
It’s all a matter of scale. Chlorine will attack stainless steel, but there are variations in SS, and temperature also will affect the reactivity too. If users follow the instructions then they should be fine. I’ve use Milton, then used Puriclean. Always at makers recommended dilution for the job in hand, always cold, and never more than 2 hours. And never more than twice a season for the system , but more like once. Never had any detrimental outcomes.
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My SS sink instructions says not to use bleach. But it might be for cosmetic reasons as opposed to other damage. (Just guessing). Bleach tends to be only 5-6% chlorine, don‘t know how that compares to Puriclens.
John
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