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dragon32a

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I am thinking of buying a 4x4 to tow my van. Being new to 4x4's I could do with some advice and I guess its a question that will help others too. When you tow, do you drive all the time with the vehicle in 4x4 mode? I know its sound stupid of me but as I said I dont have any experience of 4x4. Your advice (long with any other 4x4 advice) would be welcome.

Don
 
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I cant speak for other 4x4s, but the Shogun is to be used in 4wd when towing. It is clearly stated in the handbook and also a warning sticker on the drivers door. Failure to do so can put excess stress on the drive chain. This subject has been raised many times on the Pajero owners website, and some use 4wd some dont, but my vehicle is under warranty so I'll do what it says in the book. I can also say that on my previous Shogun I tried out towing in 2wd and 4wd and the difference was only approx 2mpg, so not worth wrecking a motor in 2wd for that saving.
 
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Depends on the 4x4, Donald. Some have permanent 4x4 which is used all the time, for example the Range Rover, while others have selectable (part time) 4x4. If you could be more specific on the vehicle of your choice, we could be more specific with your answer.
 
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I am just looking at the moment but probably Range rover, Monterey, Frontara that sort of thing.

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As far as 4x4s go, go for a Jap one.

I have a Nissan Terrano 2.7tdi, pulls superbly. The only time you use 4wd in it is when your off road (and I don't mean going on to a grass pitch, unless its very boggy) when its not in 4wd its rear wheel drive.

With the Range Rover and the Vaxhall you have to think about fuel economy.

My T2 uses less fuel than my mondeo did both aroung town and towing. The wife has just done Manchester to Pool on a full tank with the van on the back.

Go for a late Nissan Terrano will you not be sorry. (Plus you can then join the owner club).
 
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Hi Donald

As most have said - some 4x4's are routinely only driving thro' one axle and you have to select AWD via a lever.

More modern 4x4's have "permanent" AWD but even this is factually incorrect because if this were true then Transmission wind up would wreck the transmission in relatively short order.

What these more modern 4x4's do is simply allow the vehicle to have a wheel on each axle in drive mode. So any two of the four wheels transmit drive.

My advice would be not to rush out and buy one and certainly be wary of people who want you to purchase "One like I've got" - if you want to join a club - join the WI - Do not buy a vehicle just so you can join a particular club.

If you want to get a vehicle that suits you and your needs - find out what these needs are first before committing yourself.

There is a good generic 4x4 magazine on the newsstands - why not buy that for a few months and decide what suits you.
 
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Killerpete

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CliveV,

Donald have asked for advice, he has been given advise, nobody has told him (as you have missed quoted)to purchase "One like I've got". As for as clubs, is this not a type of club? do practical caravan not have meets, is this not a place for help and advise, were else is best to find out what you need to know than to ask people who all ready have and the best place to find these types of people is in a club.

Pete.
 
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Donald did actually ask for "any other 4x4 advice. But to be fair Peter, you have told him to "go for a late Nissan Terrano. Not dissimilar to yours.
 
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Killerpete

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Just to add to what I've already said, found this in the list of forums "Events, rallies and owners' clubs

What's on and news from the clubs" interesting a forum for clubs.
 
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Killerpete

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Sorry craig,

we must have entered our posts at the same time, my last comment was not aimed at you.

Found what you said as quite funny, lol, and if somebody wants something then why not have the best lol.
 
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Killerpete

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Your good craig very funny lol. Get rid of a Terrano for a Jeep lol. I like somthing with a full size rear passager doors. Not cat flaps lol.

Friend has a 1996 jeep, I sit in the back of that and my knees fell like they a up to my chin and I'm only 5ft8in, (and no I only have 1 chin before you ask).
 
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But is it a Jimmy Hill chin? I've got stacks of room in the back of the Jeep, the original Cherokee (square body) was a bit tight. I bought the Jeep because I wanted a big, heavy, smooth, petrol engined 4x4 with all the gadgets and a good autobox. Which really left the choice between Rangerover and Grand Cherokee, and since I didn't want to spend every other weekend fixing it I went for the Jeep.
 
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Killerpete

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No craig its not that big either (b****R did not think of that one) nor is it a Brucie (good game, good game) Forsyth chin.

Must admit do know what you mean about the trim etc in Jeeps, more to go wrong. The friend with the Jeep, his farther in law has a Ranger Rover and has had nothing but trouble with it.

To add a note.

This is not helping Donald out with his original question......Or is it?

Peter.
 
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Killerpete

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Craig mate, not laughted as much in a long time lol.

You'd give peter kay a run for his money with your jokes lol.

Joking apart I did fancie a Jeep to begin with but the wife (Kay...yes I know peter & kay... Peter Kay) did not....can't argue with the boss.
 
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Donald - saw a generic 4x4 mag - funnily enough it was called 4x4 I think! - in WH Smiths yesterday.

The cover was advertising a review of 70 4x4's from small to large. Could be a good starting point.
 
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