Hidden Witter TowBar & Breakaway Cable

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Hi All,

Re:Hidden Witter TowBar & Breakaway Cable

My car is fitted with Hidden Witter TowBar. I can see no obvious place to secure the breakaway. Apart from looping over towbar, what else can one do?

Thanks
 
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Witter don't seem to list a 'hidden' towbar. Could you expand a bit on what you mean and say what type of vehicle it is fitted to?
 
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Loop around the neck if you don't have a clamp-on eyelet.

Edit - my retractable hitch has a built-in eyelet for clipping to. I replaced the cable with one with a special clip made by W4. The neck also has a built-in 13 pin connector. ;)

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Nov 16, 2015
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WC, shouldn't there be a caravan attached to the cable? :evil:
 
Mar 8, 2009
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Quote -- "That's why they call it a break-away cable. It broke away."
Does that mean 'someone' forgot to disconnect?
 
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I managed to get to finally view a 2017 Swift 570 yesterday, it now comes with a set up simular to the one i presently use, the cabrina type break away, so that's an improvement IMO over the old type.
 
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I have a Witter detachable towbar which rotates and tucks behind the bumper. For some years now I have used Screwgate connectors with a 33.5Kn minimum breaking load. That is 7306 lbf in old money. It loops in through one of the holes in the Witter tow bar near to where the removable tow ball fits. And then I loop the breakaway cable through it and back on itself. The product code is AJ507 from http://www.patersonsafetyanchors.co.uk/Hooks-and-Karabiners/C12-1-0.htm. I have also used a certified strength climbing Karabiner on some trailer set ups too. Its important to buy quality fittings which are strength certified not just any look alike from the local DIY store.

The Owners Manual for my Witter towbar doesn't recommend looping the breakaway cable around the neck of the towbar.
 
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xtrailman said:
I managed to get to finally view a 2017 Swift 570 yesterday, it now comes with a set up simular to the one i presently use, the cabrina type break away, so that's an improvement IMO over the old type.

That's fine for direct attachment but what about those who wrap the cable around something then clip it back on itself? I thought this was a big no-no for carabina type cables. :eek:hmy:
 
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chrisbee1 said:
xtrailman said:
I managed to get to finally view a 2017 Swift 570 yesterday, it now comes with a set up simular to the one i presently use, the cabrina type break away, so that's an improvement IMO over the old type.

That's fine for direct attachment but what about those who wrap the cable around something then clip it back on itself? I thought this was a big no-no for carabina type cables. :eek:hmy:

Looking at the Alko instructions for their breakaway cable you can loop it back on itself or attach it directly to the towbar attachment point. For detachable tow balls Alko recommend that you contact the manufacturer of the towbar/towball. I prefer to have the cable looped back and therefore use a karabiner with a high breaking load which I fit to the towbar where Witter have left a couple of holes for attaching breakaway cables. But as seems to be the norm the hole are not really large enough to easily clip the cables clip through. Bu I emphasise that my karabiners are always obtained from suppliers who specialise in safety equipment for working at height, or climbing stores. They will be stamped with the minimum breaking strength. They aren't cheap when compared to items that look similar from DIY (£10 for 1, cf £5 for 10) but they are quality assured breaking strength.
 
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The one on the swift looks like the exact same size as i use on my witter detachable to go through one of the two holes. Bought from tool station 8mm i think.
The old type break away i have (the cheaper one) according to alko needs to be looped so i've taken that through the snap link attached to the towbar hole.

The one fitted to the swift can simply be attached through the hole.
If you have the fixed flange ball there is a cheap bracket that be used fixed via one of the bolts.
 
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otherclive said:
chrisbee1 said:
xtrailman said:
I managed to get to finally view a 2017 Swift 570 yesterday, it now comes with a set up simular to the one i presently use, the cabrina type break away, so that's an improvement IMO over the old type.

That's fine for direct attachment but what about those who wrap the cable around something then clip it back on itself? I thought this was a big no-no for carabina type cables. :eek:hmy:

Looking at the Alko instructions for their breakaway cable you can loop it back on itself or attach it directly to the towbar attachment point. For detachable tow balls Alko recommend that you contact the manufacturer of the towbar/towball. I prefer to have the cable looped back and therefore use a karabiner with a high breaking load which I fit to the towbar where Witter have left a couple of holes for attaching breakaway cables. But as seems to be the norm the hole are not really large enough to easily clip the cables clip through. Bu I emphasise that my karabiners are always obtained from suppliers who specialise in safety equipment for working at height, or climbing stores. They will be stamped with the minimum breaking strength. They aren't cheap when compared to items that look similar from DIY (£10 for 1, cf £5 for 10) but they are quality assured breaking strength.

Al-Ko list 2 types of cable in their shop.
Breakaway Cable (for looped attachment)

AL-KO

Part Number: 368605

•Pull on brakes in case of outfit detachment
•Suitable for looped attachment

Designed for looping around the towball. Note: Not suitable for direct attachment to towbar

and
Breakaway Cable with Caribena Clip

AL-KO

Part Number: 1220984

•Pull on brakes in case of outfit detachment
Suitable for direct attachment

I'll have to take your word for it that the carabina one is also suitable for looped attachment as I can't find this recommendation anywhere on their website.
 
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It't the cable that is designed to break at 3500kg not the hook or karabina, . The old style of hook will bend if clipped to a hole in the Tow bar.
 
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Chrisbee has quoted from Alko, The purpose of the 'breakaway cable" is not to keep the trailer attached to the tow vehicle, but to apply the trailer's brakes and to snap if the load is great enough.

I'm not sure if the cable is designed to snap, or if the attachment device is expected to relieve and let go, so the use of higher rated carabiners may not be the best thing to do.
 
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The 3500kg in NCC advice sheets refers to the suitability of the designated breakaway cables for use on braked towed vehicles up to 3500kg GVW.

In the Alko.com shop they show the two types of cable. The older style with the spring clip is stated as for looped operation. But the Alko website refers (via link) the reader to documents issued by the NCC. Here the assembly is dealt with in two sections. One where there is a designated attachment point and the other where there is no designated attachment point. With a designated attachment point the old style Alko cable should still be looped. Where there is risk of confusion is that the NCC document also states that the cable can be clipped directly, but with the proviso that the clip must be strong enough and have the makers approval to do so. For the old style breakaway clip Alko clearly state on their website that its for looped usage, and should not be directly clipped.

Where the towbar has no designated attachment point the NCC documents referenced by Alko advise looping the cable (either type of cable) around fixed towball. But for a detachable towball the guidance of the manufacturer or supplier must be sought.

My detachable Witter has two relatively small holes in its fixed section. Neither are large enough to loop my breakaway cable. The towbar handbook doesn't support looping the cable around the lowball, and neither would I. So my options were to either buy another breakaway cable, with the new Caribiner clip (assuming it would fit the holes) or provide a suitable attachment point for which I use high strength carabiner mounted is such a way that any pull on the breakaway cable is along the longitudinal axis of the carabiner. I could not loop the breakaway cable around the towbar as its too far back under the car and the cable would be too tight and not have a good alignment.

In answer to Prof Johns comment it could be either. If an older style cable is looped around a designated attachment point or fixed lowball, then I would expect either the cable to brake, or something at the caravan end to break. Preferably the latter. For the new Caribena clip which is designed to clip onto designated attachment points or be looped around a fixed towball there could be three points where it may fail after doing its job. But again the best designed failure point would seem to be at the caravan brake attachment. There are also the breakaway cables which have a Key Ring type of appearance which fits at the brake end. Think Alko used to call them "burst rings" so perhaps that's where the designed failure point is.
 
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otherclive said:
The 3500kg in NCC advice sheets refers to the suitability of the designated breakaway cables for use on braked towed vehicles up to 3500kg GVW.

Where the towbar has no designated attachment point the NCC documents referenced by Alko advise looping the cable (either type of cable) around fixed towball. But for a detachable towball the guidance of the manufacturer or supplier must be sought.

If, as the NCC seem to be saying, that either type of Al-Ko cable may be looped and clipped back on itself why on earth do Al-Ko make 2 types and not just the carabina type as that would cover all scenarios? Whilst the leaflet says the spring type is not suitable for direct attachment it doesn't actually refer to the carabina one, other than to say it must be
specifically permitted by the trailer manufacturer for direct attachment.
 

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