How selfish of C.C Member

[Lord Braykewynde]

Quote from Neil, now known appropriately as Riff Raff for reasons which can be guessed at :O) .....

"Not once have i dissagreed that parting at small hours is antisocial not once have i disagreed that noise is antisocial, what i dont see is why others cannot relax and have some friends round have a few glasses and have a good chin wag, its not there fault that you want to get up at 5,6 or 7am"

No, you haven't disagreed with it being anti-social but what you are saying is that it's alright for you and others of your ilk to be anti-social. You are typical of the selfish few about today that go bleating "it's not my fault".

All I can say is pity those who spend money going away to find themselves pitched next to those who have no respect for others and from the sounds of their posts very little respect for themselves with their FYJIA attitude.

Rarely do we use private sites, mainly Caravan Club, so this probably accounts for why I haven't experienced disrespectful behaviour to others and this includes C.L.s.

 

[RiffRaff]

No offence but in the real world people are not that perfect or black and white, one thing this thread has done though is make me chuckle at the thought of a load of victor meldrew's at there PC's, You should write to the CC and ask if they will look into dishing out caravanners ASBO's.

 

[Guest]

I don't see what CC has to do with this subject. Good behaviour and consideration for others applies to all sites.

As for CC ASBO's. Forget that, if you're loudmouth on one of the club sites they should cancel your membership there and then!

I even don't live in the UK. But we knew a couple who ran and owned a European site, they sold up a couple of years ago. Over the years that they owned the site, their biggest complaint was that by far the most noisy troublesome clients were Brits, in the end they'd had enough and took a good offer and sold out.

They were British themselves!

We enjoy a good time and like to party, most camp sites are not the place.

Knowing how to behave and respect others space and way of leading their lives is nothing do with Meldrew syndrom.

The problems are solely down the thoughtless W1_ _ _ _ _'_ !

I live in the real world and nancying about around people who have no idea about what is reasonable behaviour is rubbish.

It's no one elses business when people decide to retire or get up providing it doesn't affect others!

 

[Alan Partridge]

⇨It's no one elses business when people decide to retire or get up providing it doesn't affect others!

Amen to that.

 

[Lord Braykewynde]

You're wasting precious monitor ink euro, it will never sink in with them :O)

It reminds me of kids when they are in their early teens, the world owes them. Watch out for the tantrum if they don't get their own way ;O)

 

[Guest]

I know LB, But do you know what? I just don't care!

Why the **** should some ignorant ***** ruin others free time and then come out with Sh1* to lamely try and defend undefensable behaviour!

 

[Parksy]

I don't know how widespread this inconsiderate behaviour is, we've only experienced it once on a commercial site near Torquay.

The site, Widdecombe Farm is very well run and one night some people were apparently laughing and talking in their awning into the small hours. I didn't hear them myself because when my head hits the pillow I'd sleep through anything but my o/h said that she had been kept awake for a while.

Somebody must have complained ( not us) because first thing the next morning we heard the site warden telling them in no uncertain terms to pack up and leave which they did.

The answer to this sort of thing has to lie with the site owners and wardens, club or otherwise. The rules are there for all to see and if people choose to ignore them they should receive the same firm treatment as that which we saw at Widdecombe.

We've just come back today from a few days in the Peak District where we stayed on a certified site with tents in one field and the caravans on a 5 van field. There was a mixture of adults, children, young people and not so young and I'm happy to say that after 11pm you could have heard a pin drop.

 

[Guest]

Right on Parksy.

No messing about. Just kick noisy oiks off of sites!

 

[Parksy]

I gather that these same people had been warned previously by the site wardens according to Herself who picked up all of the gossip at the time.

It shouldn't be left to those staying on the site to 'police' others and when rules are ignored on sites everyone suffers.

Wardens should act firmly to stamp out what appears to be a growing tendency to be inconsiderate and rude to others.

 

[Guest]

Parksy, you are correct but I do not believe it can be made as clear cut as that. Wardens may often try to avoid getting to the 'last resort' of throwing someone off a site. Unless the wardens themselves actually hear the noise then they only have the words of other campers to go on. Yes, they are probably correct but people do often elaborate and the wardens probably hope that the 'event' is a one off and everybody will live in harmony. They also will be loathe to throw people off as this is business revenue at the end of the day. Yes, you can state that the good campers may leave instead, but it is a fine balance.

It would be nice to think that everybody showed consideration for others, but as we all know in the present day world, that often does not happen. One also has to consider that the 'revellers' may not necessarily be British. In Spain for example dinner usually starts around 10 pm and the evening?? finishes at 2-3 am as a natural event. Of course the Spanish do not rise early, and sleep in the afternoon. I am not suggesting that the revellers mentioned above are Spanish, unless the Spanish Armada actually succeeded, merely that people view things differently. On some large sites in the Med you usually have to listen to the 'entertainment' until 12.30 am or sometimes later. In these circumstances I take a pack of disposable earplugs.

Fortunately, or otherwise the UK weather often persuades people that sitting outside is not a good idea. Of course then you may get the 'gatherings' in awnings, often I may add by the older generation, which after a few slugs of sherry wine can get quite boisterous.

 

[path20]

I think we are wasting our time trying to explain to Riff Raff how unsociable he can be.I am sure he is a nice fella and believes that what he is doing is all right.BUT at the end of the day he needs to step back and think what it would be like if we all partied just one night a week until the early hours.Many of us I am sure would like to do this but out of consideration for others we don't.My teenage grandchildren couldn't understand when I asked them to be quiet after 11pm.They thought I was an old fuddy duddy.They understood when I explained why.Hopefully they will be considerate and sociable

when they themselves have their own families and caravans.

 

[Guest]

Was on a site called camping weekend [lake garda] the touring area formed an L type shape around the main entertaining/eating area, which had entertainment till midnight and on the last night a proper firework display till 30mins after midnight.

We were in a mobile home so were a good 100M away from where the entertainment took place.

It did wonder how all those caravanners felt being so near the busy/nosey area,and the site was full too.

I suppose there must be different types of noise, some must be more annoying than others, otherwise i cannot see how these type of typical sites are always full,if everyone lives to a 11pm deadline. something these sites clearly do not,and clearly they do something right as they are alway packed.......

 

[Guest]

If you go to a site that has a club or plenty of evening entertainment that is different to a site where it goes quiet in the evening and some turn in an hour or more before midnight.

 

[ValA.]

As those who like peace and quiet at night are being called 'old fuddy duddies' or 'Victor Meldrews' perhaps there's a case for 'Club 18 to 30 (or 40, perhaps if 60 is the new 40) campsites' for those who want to party/stay up in their awnings talking, until the early/late hours, and leave the other sites for those who don't?

There could be 'awning parties', 'toilet block chase', 'drink all you can pitch invasions', 'midnight barbecues', 'skinny dipping in the river' and so on - and no one would mind the noise.

 

[Soozeeg]

I like the sound of those activities, Val......but I'm, ahem, over 30! Perhaps we could have the same thing for us over 30s, but at a more respectable time.......all activities to be completed by 11 pm ;-)

**said tongue firmly in cheek** lol

 

[Parksy]

Put me down for the cocoa binge drinking.

 

[Lord Braykewynde]

I'll be in charge of "Moonin' over the windbreak".

With a full moon beating down on another full moon I can take bets on guessing whose ass it is :O)

 

[Soozeeg]

I'll be in charge of "Moonin' over the windbreak".

With a full moon beating down on another full moon I can take bets on guessing whose ass it is :O)

I didn't mean tongues in those sort of cheeks, LB **blushes** lol ;-)

 

[Guest]

I no more wanted noisy neighbours on sites when I was in my twenties and thirties.

We enjoy caravanning with our kids and grand children and friends from twenty and thirty year old ranges up to people in their seventies.

No need for Club 18 - 30 sites, just people who know when to buttone it!

 

[GregClaire]

Sometimes you get good neighbours & sometimes you dont, but its all about respect for others.

Its one thing hearing people talking & zippers going up & down, which in my opinion is fine, you cant expect silence, but the loud music, shouting & general drunk idiots that cause the problems just dont get it.

Yes everyone likes to let their hair down when on holiday but dont do it at someone elses expence.

You never know it might be the only time that someone gets to have a break so dont spoil it for them by being anti social.

On the other hand I play airsoft (bit like paintball) and I have quite a few military type flash bangs to hand so I might have to put a few in the van, 120db explosions when trying to sleep might make a point, drunk or not!

Before you say it im not an "old fart" im 29 & brought up to respect others, just not when I feel im having my holiday ruined.

Greg.

 

[COCAROBR@AOL.COM]

hi

being one of the ones that has friends round to the van for drinks and a blether an maybe goes on into the small hours i appologise but never once have i had any complaints . maybe the ones that do complain are upset because they were not invited round so to avoid neighbours complaining invite them round

colin

 

[JohnnyV]

I think basically everyone has different standards as to what is OK - personally agree wholeheartedly with Euro, if anything you do causes anoyance to others then perhaps you should think again.

I can fully accept that some people find enjoyment in loud music etc. so we use CL's where most are like us, there to enjoy the peace and surroundings - if you choose to stay on a site that has a bar and evening entertainment then inevitably you have to expect some noise.

What I would suggest is that if you want to drink and 'roister' then perhaps you would be better finding the sort of site that suits this lifestyle?

I so qualify to be a 'Grumpy Old Man' but whilst not having experienced it would become annoyed if I was kept up night after night - I wouldn't do it to others and expect the same treatment in return. Sadly this consideration for others is being further driven out of our society with each generation.

 

[Guest]

Again with Colin, he has this strange idea that as no one has complained to him that making noise is acceptable.

As before, you should have to get out of bed or your caravan and ask others to be quiet.

Nor should you feel worried that a complaint will cause an upset, that's why many never ever complain!

 

[path20]

I agree Euro. Why should we have to get out of bed to go outside to another van to ask them to be a little quieter.I hate hassle when I go away. I can do without it.If I did go and complain how do I know I wont get a mouthful.AND as for feeling jealous because I was not invited, forget it. I can party like the next one with our friends but we are considerate of others and try not to upset anyone in the wee small hours.

At the end of the day I don't think anybody really means to be noisy and a nusiance, they just don't think.