Roy, I've just read all that thread and didn't know whether to laugh or cry - laughter won out in the end. My OH has been an HGV driver for more than 20 years and thought the behaviour of some of those HGV drivers on there was atrocious. I just find it laughable that they, as professional drivers, appear to have not the slightest idea of how caravanners operate. But at least we know that, by and large, we are a responsible lot and no more likely to clog up the roads or to have accidents than HGV drivers are. As for the parking issues at motorway services, well do we actually want to park in the lorry area, which is noisy, crowded, stinks of diesel and, far worse, bodily fluids from lorry drivers who are too damn lazy to use the services? Hardly, but do we have a choice most of the time? Clearly not, since that is generally where we are directed to park.