Jaguar crossover to be called F-Pace
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Shame they havn't released prices and engine spec yet.Nice vehicle,but what attracted my attention was JLR provided Tata with 81% of its annual income.Well done Tata at least someone with half a brain is employed by you.This country beggars belief.
To be fair that's probably just Tata Motors, which is only about a third of Tata Group.seth1 said:
Tata Motors in India is having a difficult time financially.
I wonder if JLR are concerned about the problem in Russia as they export a good percentage of cars to them?
Not while there's waiting lists for most models and factories are at full production - overseas assembly is vital for JLR to reduce the effect of currency fluctuation as well as increasing global capacity.MichaelE said:
An article from Autocar about the SUV. Nice to see manufacturing jobs being created in the UK.
Jaguar's first production SUV will arrive in 2016, badged F-Pace, with C-X17-inspired looks and Ingenium enginesJaguar’s*new SUV will be badged F-Pace when it arrives this time next year, it has been revealed.
The launch of the new model marks the first time the 80-year-old manufacturer has entered the SUV market.
The F-Pace name is understood to have been chosen to emphasise both its relationship in style and character with the F-type sports car and to recall Jaguar’s famous 'Grace, Pace, Space' slogan of the 1950s and 1960s.
The new SUV squarely targets Porsche’s Macan and BMW’s X4 models. It should command a starting price of about £35,000, reaching upwards as far as £50,000.
The new car, nearly identical in size and looks to the C-X17 concept revealed at the Frankfurt motor show in 2013, is expected to become one of Jaguar’s two best-selling models, performing strongly in major markets such as China and the US and rivalling the volume of the forthcoming XE compact saloon.
Once established in the market, the two debutantes should push total Jaguar volume beyond 200,000 units a year, up from last year’s figure of about 80,000.
JLR’s global operations director, Andy Goss, says the emergence of the F-Pace is a direct result of the company’s plan to spend more than £3.5 billion a year on product development over the next few years.
The F-Pace’s styling was created in-house by design boss Ian Callum and his team at the beginning of 2013. It is a relatively long car for its compact billing, nearly 40cm longer than a Range Rover Evoque and about the same height.
These generous dimensions allow the car its curvaceous exterior (“If you want form,” says Callum, “you need space”), which includes muscular haunches, classic Jaguar bonnet lines and strongly raked front and rear windscreens.
Callum admits it took time to shape a convincing SUV in the image of the F-type. “This was our first crossover design,” he says, “and, yes, it was hard. We found the initial results quite difficult and disappointing. The profile, the 200-metre view, was the hardest bit, and that’s what sells cars. But I reckon we cracked it in the end.”
Jaguar isn’t yet saying what engines the car will use, but the range seems certain to start with models powered by the soon-to-land Ingenium four-cylinder line-up and is likely to include engines up to the 3.0-litre supercharged petrol V6 used in the F-type, with power potential beyond 250bhp.
The F-Pace will be built in Jaguar’s new Solihull plant and should be on dealers’ forecourts early in 2016.
“We’ve been talking about a product onslaught for a quite while,” says Goss, “and now it’s beginning.”
Q&A with Andy Goss, Jaguar Land Rover global operations director
F-Pace is an unusual name. Why did you choose it?
"There was plenty of discussion about it. We wanted to emphasise the car’s relationship with F-type, which we view as our emotional fulcrum. And 'pace' implies performance, which the car certainly has. Besides that, it’s a word we own; we started using it in the famous 'Grace, Pace, Space' slogan many years ago."
How important is the F-Pace to your range?
"It could be the biggest seller we’re going to have, similar in size to the XE. The sector volume has tripled in five years, and all predictions say it’ll expand by another 30 per cent in the next five. These cars sell well in all the big markets: China, the US and Europe. It’s really important for us." *
Are you worried about a clash with Land Rover?
"Not at all. The F-Pace’s exterior design and its obvious reference to the F-type is one huge point of differentiation. And whereas Land Rovers are focused on off-road performance, this car is very definitely aimed at highway use. Frankly, the real surprise is that we haven’t done it before."
Even without the F-Pace or XE, you’ve had a good year at JLR, right?
"Yes. Total sales were up nine per cent to 462,678 units and Jaguar had its best year for a decade. We have 12 new product actions planned this year and anticipate retailing 500,000 cars for the first time in the company’s history."
Jaguar's first production SUV will arrive in 2016, badged F-Pace, with C-X17-inspired looks and Ingenium enginesJaguar’s*new SUV will be badged F-Pace when it arrives this time next year, it has been revealed.
The launch of the new model marks the first time the 80-year-old manufacturer has entered the SUV market.
The F-Pace name is understood to have been chosen to emphasise both its relationship in style and character with the F-type sports car and to recall Jaguar’s famous 'Grace, Pace, Space' slogan of the 1950s and 1960s.
The new SUV squarely targets Porsche’s Macan and BMW’s X4 models. It should command a starting price of about £35,000, reaching upwards as far as £50,000.
The new car, nearly identical in size and looks to the C-X17 concept revealed at the Frankfurt motor show in 2013, is expected to become one of Jaguar’s two best-selling models, performing strongly in major markets such as China and the US and rivalling the volume of the forthcoming XE compact saloon.
Once established in the market, the two debutantes should push total Jaguar volume beyond 200,000 units a year, up from last year’s figure of about 80,000.
JLR’s global operations director, Andy Goss, says the emergence of the F-Pace is a direct result of the company’s plan to spend more than £3.5 billion a year on product development over the next few years.
The F-Pace’s styling was created in-house by design boss Ian Callum and his team at the beginning of 2013. It is a relatively long car for its compact billing, nearly 40cm longer than a Range Rover Evoque and about the same height.
These generous dimensions allow the car its curvaceous exterior (“If you want form,” says Callum, “you need space”), which includes muscular haunches, classic Jaguar bonnet lines and strongly raked front and rear windscreens.
Callum admits it took time to shape a convincing SUV in the image of the F-type. “This was our first crossover design,” he says, “and, yes, it was hard. We found the initial results quite difficult and disappointing. The profile, the 200-metre view, was the hardest bit, and that’s what sells cars. But I reckon we cracked it in the end.”
Jaguar isn’t yet saying what engines the car will use, but the range seems certain to start with models powered by the soon-to-land Ingenium four-cylinder line-up and is likely to include engines up to the 3.0-litre supercharged petrol V6 used in the F-type, with power potential beyond 250bhp.
The F-Pace will be built in Jaguar’s new Solihull plant and should be on dealers’ forecourts early in 2016.
“We’ve been talking about a product onslaught for a quite while,” says Goss, “and now it’s beginning.”
Q&A with Andy Goss, Jaguar Land Rover global operations director
F-Pace is an unusual name. Why did you choose it?
"There was plenty of discussion about it. We wanted to emphasise the car’s relationship with F-type, which we view as our emotional fulcrum. And 'pace' implies performance, which the car certainly has. Besides that, it’s a word we own; we started using it in the famous 'Grace, Pace, Space' slogan many years ago."
How important is the F-Pace to your range?
"It could be the biggest seller we’re going to have, similar in size to the XE. The sector volume has tripled in five years, and all predictions say it’ll expand by another 30 per cent in the next five. These cars sell well in all the big markets: China, the US and Europe. It’s really important for us." *
Are you worried about a clash with Land Rover?
"Not at all. The F-Pace’s exterior design and its obvious reference to the F-type is one huge point of differentiation. And whereas Land Rovers are focused on off-road performance, this car is very definitely aimed at highway use. Frankly, the real surprise is that we haven’t done it before."
Even without the F-Pace or XE, you’ve had a good year at JLR, right?
"Yes. Total sales were up nine per cent to 462,678 units and Jaguar had its best year for a decade. We have 12 new product actions planned this year and anticipate retailing 500,000 cars for the first time in the company’s history."
Read about the F-PACE and more in our Motty's brand new blog on this week's Detroit show – click here.
Third in line to to Range Rover and Volvo, I used to rate Jaguar, in the days when they were something special, and looked it. (and I've owned a few)
Now, I'm afraid they don't figure anywhere!
Now, I'm afraid they don't figure anywhere!
Jaguar doesnt figure anywere?Compared to what? All cars consist of a badge and mentally what you think of them.The worst makes can be good,even a mondeo Ray.
What people think of a brand is amazing no matter what they do?
I did a car study on this vehicle last year and the perception among the people is that the Jaguar brand is an older persons car?
They are doing so much to entice the younger generations , hence the F pace naming and as you will see much more modern interiors both trim technology along with colours.
The Mondeo is a market leading both in quality of materials and build and Fords are not so cheap now?
I believe the 3 series now outsells the Mondeo.
I did a car study on this vehicle last year and the perception among the people is that the Jaguar brand is an older persons car?
They are doing so much to entice the younger generations , hence the F pace naming and as you will see much more modern interiors both trim technology along with colours.
The Mondeo is a market leading both in quality of materials and build and Fords are not so cheap now?
I believe the 3 series now outsells the Mondeo.
The BMW 3-series outsold the Sierra and then Mondeo.MichaelE said:
Brand image is a powerful tool - if we all just spend the minimum necessary we'd all be towing with Jimny's and mk1 Sorento's.
Old prejudices run deep and are in peoples minds long after the reality has changed but they refuse to see it. Jaguar are still mocked for using the Mondeo as the basis for the X-type - funny that people don't mock Bentley for using the VW Phaeton as the basis for the Continental.
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Ford switch gear in a Jag didn't help, just brought down the upmarket image, didn't go down well with the press at the time, and was seen as a means to go fwd with the jag, if memory serves me correctly.?
Most of the out of reach cars from my youth are easily obtainable today.
Because they have gone for the fleet market, but if you want one fully loaded it can put £10K on the price, £40K to buy, which is why I tend to buy Japanese, you get a good car fully loaded at a reasonable price.
Ironically the Japs and Koreans are trying to go upmarket.?
Most of the out of reach cars from my youth are easily obtainable today.
Because they have gone for the fleet market, but if you want one fully loaded it can put £10K on the price, £40K to buy, which is why I tend to buy Japanese, you get a good car fully loaded at a reasonable price.
Ironically the Japs and Koreans are trying to go upmarket.?
These cars are now easily available to the younger generation these days? Leasing and Pcp's make these cars affordable which they didnt use to be in my day. only HP with a huge deposit.
They don't want to keep them and hand them back after the lease and get another.
This is where brands come into their own as they hold there value better , when i had my Audi A4's i had the top of the range S line cheaper monthly than a Mondeo or Insignia list price was a difference of over £8k.
My son is looking at a Golf GTD for £349 a month on a 3 year lease 3 months down for a deposit , the car is £30k!!! easily affordable no way could i have done that at 23?
It is ironic re the Japs and Koreans but if the price creeps up to top marques they say i might as well buy a one of them?
They don't want to keep them and hand them back after the lease and get another.
This is where brands come into their own as they hold there value better , when i had my Audi A4's i had the top of the range S line cheaper monthly than a Mondeo or Insignia list price was a difference of over £8k.
My son is looking at a Golf GTD for £349 a month on a 3 year lease 3 months down for a deposit , the car is £30k!!! easily affordable no way could i have done that at 23?
It is ironic re the Japs and Koreans but if the price creeps up to top marques they say i might as well buy a one of them?
The x type was a very similar price to the mondeo when both new.Jag started at £19,500.Mid mondeo was £20,000 ish.
I remember the jokes, "its just mondeo suspension, And whats wrong with that?" Parts were handy to obtain for a start.
I learnt along time ago,cars are just chunks of metal made into different shapes or as an employee puts it,"their just nuts and bolts" by that he means all manner of vehicles not just cars.
I remember the jokes, "its just mondeo suspension, And whats wrong with that?" Parts were handy to obtain for a start.
I learnt along time ago,cars are just chunks of metal made into different shapes or as an employee puts it,"their just nuts and bolts" by that he means all manner of vehicles not just cars.
In the "good old days" Jaguar used the same Smiths and Lucas components as BMC, ironically with Jaguar getting a lower price despite BMC's much higher volumes.xtrailman said:
BMW switches and systems in a Rolls-Royce seem ok - as are FWD BMWs these days - perhaps Jaguar were too far ahead of their time?
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xtrailman said:
Hello X
My recollection of this reaction to announcement was at last some decent switches with the right tactile feel that weren't going to fall apart when you went over a bump! Fords ownership was at the time seen as good thing as it probably saved Jaguar from the fall out of the debacle that BL had become. Its likely if Ford hadn't taken over, Jaguar would now be a dim and distant memory, along with Austin, Morris, Wolseley and the real MG.
its called cx17 in the factory still(I work for jlr in a office on nights) its looks ok in the metal but i wouldnt buy 1 myself..
when pre production models came down the line everyone looks at it but after 20 of them have been past its just another jag or lr
when pre production models came down the line everyone looks at it but after 20 of them have been past its just another jag or lr
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