Has any Sorento owners had their engines superchipped (ECU remapped) for more BHP and Torque.If so are you happy with it, and were you able to get reasonable insurance cover?
Regards Jim
Regards Jim
Kia Sorento - Superchipped
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Not another boy racer 4x4 driver ............... I suppose with more speed you will not notice the small kid splattered on the front bumper
having a remapp, is ok but just make sure you only go for
moderate increases, 15% ish.
i'd also speak to your insurance people first,just to test
the water....better still don't talk to them full stop.
moderate increases, 15% ish.
i'd also speak to your insurance people first,just to test
the water....better still don't talk to them full stop.
Jim C ; I was looking at the PBox and noticed around 21% gains in torque (which is already impressive) and the same for bhp. What others are you looking at please.
Othough some people feel that we seek to do this to be a 'boy racer' (what rubbish) I belive that having really adequate torque is extremely safe when towing. I was once caught on a long (long!) gradient when towing and would dearly have loved that extra 20%
Let me know how you get on please.
John
john.stephen@10glebelands.com
Othough some people feel that we seek to do this to be a 'boy racer' (what rubbish) I belive that having really adequate torque is extremely safe when towing. I was once caught on a long (long!) gradient when towing and would dearly have loved that extra 20%
Let me know how you get on please.
John
john.stephen@10glebelands.com
Hi John
I have made a few enquiries and I do not feel that it is worth doing.
Firstly the cost, with Superchips it's
Hi Jim, ive posted on this subject before but cant remember where. i had my galaxy chipped and found it to be well worth the investment. i changed my galaxy a few month ago for a new seat alhambra tdi 130 bhp which towed my twin axle superbly. however like most of us i wanted a bit more power for the bigger hills so i called the guys at dsm to enquire about the dual system upgrade, they put me in touch with gavin at the derv doctor in ashbourne derbyshire who adviced that with the dual system i would get an increase from 130 bhp to 172 bhp and from 227 to 284 pound of torque. after a five minuite chat gavin plugged the module box in to my cars diagnostic socket and read the standard map in to the dual system box this information was then e-mailled to dsm who wrote a new modified map and stored this on the d/s box along side the original map. all i have to do is plug the box in to the car and select wether i want the standard or the modified map and programme the car myself. the modified map is absolutely superb the car has been transformed as a tow vehicle and i found that i rarely had to change out of sixth gear on the motorway which was unheard of before, and when not towing if i drive as i normally do (nice and steady) i am getting round about 12 % better economy. my car had to go in for a rattle recently and i loaded the standard map in before visiting the garage, the first thing the technicion did was plug a lap top diagnostic system in to the car and he never once noticed that it had been modified, to him it looked completely standard which it would do as i had removed the modified map. its not cheap but if your car is under warranty its one of the only sytems which the manufacturer can not detect. try the derv doctor at www.thedervdoctor.co.uk
Jim C; I was wondering whether you had any more to share on this? I did visit the dervdoctor site as suggested but they have not replied to my query (clearly too busy !!)
What I like about the PBox is that it can be fitted in around 15 mins at home; i.e. no special tools or expreince required.
John
What I like about the PBox is that it can be fitted in around 15 mins at home; i.e. no special tools or expreince required.
John
Hi John
It was actually Icemaker who talked about the dual system upgrade at dervdoctor. I also visited this web site. I am still sitting on the fence so to speak as there are too many cons to go ahead at this time.
Regards Jim
It was actually Icemaker who talked about the dual system upgrade at dervdoctor. I also visited this web site. I am still sitting on the fence so to speak as there are too many cons to go ahead at this time.
Regards Jim
What is also intesreting is taht teher are some clear differences between the products. I cannot comment upon reliability but it is clear that (with regard to the Kian Sorebto) teh bulk of superchipped products off around 15-19% improvement with the PBox seemingly out in front offering over 20%. However whereas the others all vie for the sub
just rang gavin at the derv doctor as he is making some software changes to my box as i found that the car tended to smoke a bit too much when towing under a lot of power, this he tells me is common with cars that are used to tow as you are using so much torque at fairly low revs. i believe him as the car is clean as a whistle at 60 on the motorway. never the less he is going to alter the mapping slightly to lower the emmissions, this is the real beauty of the dual system, you can alter the ecu from modified to standard whenever you want. this includes whenever the car needs to go to the dealer who once the car is set back to standard can not see that it has ever been modified becouse the modified map has been removed. once you get the car back upload the modified map again, therefore no warranty problems. ps it is better to ring the derv doctor as he has little time to check his e-mails. i have slapped his wrist.
Dear Mr Iceman (cool no doubt !) OK thanks but what price does one pay for this re-mapping and all this personal service?
I guess you need to be close to Derby also? Although I wouln't say no to a trip to the Peak District
John
I guess you need to be close to Derby also? Although I wouln't say no to a trip to the Peak District
John
I took Iceman's advice and spoke to gavinh on Saturday. He sounded like a man who knows his business but SLATED teh PBOX as not being fit to put on a tractor! Well ... Amyway, he said that teh only way to do thie job was to re-map the ECU based upon the charactyeristics of the specific engine. He advised that the Sorebto will get around 35 bhp more and that the Torque will increase by around 50 ft/lbs.
So many thanks for the lead as Gavin's approach sounds the right one.
John
So many thanks for the lead as Gavin's approach sounds the right one.
John
John,
Plug-in boxes react to the signal already computed by the car ECU, they can't see important parameters like throttle position, air-mass (flow) sensor, and many other sensors that the ECU uses to calculate and send the fuelling signals to the injectors. They can change the moment of injection and duration of the injection pulse.
A re-map of the ECU allows the calculation to take all of the sensor inputs into account. For that reason an ECU re-map is a "better" solution.
Robert
Plug-in boxes react to the signal already computed by the car ECU, they can't see important parameters like throttle position, air-mass (flow) sensor, and many other sensors that the ECU uses to calculate and send the fuelling signals to the injectors. They can change the moment of injection and duration of the injection pulse.
A re-map of the ECU allows the calculation to take all of the sensor inputs into account. For that reason an ECU re-map is a "better" solution.
Robert
Hello John, sorry it takes me so long to reply to your query but i don't come on the forum as much as i used to due to the childish attitude of some. I guess you already know the answer to your question now anyway as you have spoken to gavin but just to clarify i paid 495.00 for my dual system, i think the other system he fits is a little cheaper and is apparently just as good but i wanted to be able to remove the sytem completly as the car is so new, you can switch the cheaper option from modified to standard but you can not remove it without a visit to gavin. if you fancy a trip to ashbourne try staying on Peak Gateway caravan park, it is only 1/2 mile from gavin and is having an immence amount of money spent on it by the new owner, it is good now and will be superb when finnished.
Hello 'Icemaker'; I think that, certainly in the past week or so, 'things' have improved and the exchange of abuse appears to have stopped. (long may it continue).
I am unclear why you would wish to 'remove' the system as such. Gavin assured me that the re-mapped ECU would eb totally transparent to sechanics and service agents with their computer diagnostics etc. Perhaps this is not correct or, you have your doubts?
John
I am unclear why you would wish to 'remove' the system as such. Gavin assured me that the re-mapped ECU would eb totally transparent to sechanics and service agents with their computer diagnostics etc. Perhaps this is not correct or, you have your doubts?
John
Hello again John, i may have miss heard gavin but i thought he said that the system would be invisible to mechanics as long as i had re-programmed the car back to the standard map. if i leave the modified map in the ecu then the mechanics lap top will read all the modified settings, the dual sytem works (i think) by removing the original map and storing on a chip then uploading a modified map to the ecu, when you want the standard map back on the car you do the reverse.
I have now had the mod on my car for three weeks and have just refilled the tank with diesel, i used to get around 50 + mpg driving steady but now get 55 + mpg which isnt far short of the 12% better economy quoted by gavin, since refilling my alhambra has done 106 miles and the needle is showing 16th of a tank used which equates to about 650 miles to the tank, i am very happy with it. one word of warning though my car does appear to have higher smoke emmissions when towing, this i am assured is normal due to the high amount of torque being used at fairly low revs.
I have now had the mod on my car for three weeks and have just refilled the tank with diesel, i used to get around 50 + mpg driving steady but now get 55 + mpg which isnt far short of the 12% better economy quoted by gavin, since refilling my alhambra has done 106 miles and the needle is showing 16th of a tank used which equates to about 650 miles to the tank, i am very happy with it. one word of warning though my car does appear to have higher smoke emmissions when towing, this i am assured is normal due to the high amount of torque being used at fairly low revs.
Thanks for this. It'll be some weeks before i am ready to make the trek to Derby so if you let me have your email I will let you know how things go. By then this topic will have disappeared onto the thrird page I expect!)Please email me on john.stephen@10glebelands.com that way you retain your anonimity !
John
John
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