MG3 NCAP TEST CRITICAL SAFETY FAILURE.

[otherclive]

Before I retired it was only in the latter years I had a Tom Tom nav. The boot contained maps for 99% of towns and cities. I can still remember how to navigate😜

Our Kia has some lane deviation system but it is visual and verbal . Doesn't move the steering wheel. We still have control.
I think it's called Lane Departure Warning. I see there are other names Lane Keeping Assist or Lane Following Assist. Means zero to me and frankly If I need it perhaps it's time you take the bus🤪
All for passive assist systems but really don't fancy active ones.

Do these systems kick in when towing ?

I guess you have two now mainstream safety systems on the Touareg. One can be turned off but leaves a constant warning that is been turned off. The other cannot be turned off.

I have no problem with autonomous aids as they may enhance my safety if they are fitted to another drivers car, plus no matter how careful and attentive I am when driving it’s impossible to rule out that there could be an instance when my cars aids prevent an incident, or reduce its consequences.

 

[Buckman]

Not sure if they do. My Mazda does not react in the manner you describe. Country lanes and hedges does not seem to affect it. It seems to recognise white lines as the guide. So country lanes does not affect the steering.
But perhaps some cars activation is too vicious.

John

I have since found out that it is known that the Toyota system is over sensitive and the lane assist could be dangerous indicating or twitching you into the path of an oncoming vehicle. I don't have that issue with the Hyundai Tucson as the twitch is very mild in comparison to the Yaris. Also the Hyundai doesn't brake for hedges etc.

At the moment we hardly use the Yaris as OH not very happy driving it as OH is unsure about turning off the lane assist as it it is sub menus, but we are stuck with it for now. If the pre-collision and lane assist are turned off, the Yaris is a lovely nippy car to drive and very economical at over 70mpg.

 

[JTQ]

I have since found out that it is known that the Toyota system is over sensitive and the lane assist could be dangerous indicating or twitching you into the path of an oncoming vehicle.

I really am surprised if it is as claimed a known issue that a vehicle's system is dangerous enough to involuntarily put you into the path of an oncoming vehicle that these can be sold or even used in the UK, or actually any other place with regulatory oversight of vehicle safety aspects. And equally surprised this from an otherwise excellent highly reputed vehicle maker.
The Yaris had been a model I was thinking would be ideal, where within the family they are looking for a Jazz replacement.

 

[RogerL]

I have since found out that it is known that the Toyota system is over sensitive and the lane assist could be dangerous indicating or twitching you into the path of an oncoming vehicle. I don't have that issue with the Hyundai Tucson as the twitch is very mild in comparison to the Yaris. Also the Hyundai doesn't brake for hedges etc.

At the moment we hardly use the Yaris as OH not very happy driving it as OH is unsure about turning off the lane assist as it it is sub menus, but we are stuck with it for now. If the pre-collision and lane assist are turned off, the Yaris is a lovely nippy car to drive and very economical at over 70mpg.

Time to get rid of the Yaris - it clearly doesn't, and won't ever meet your expectations.

 

[Buckman]

I really am surprised if it is as claimed a known issue that a vehicle's system is dangerous enough to involuntarily put you into the path of an oncoming vehicle that these can be sold or even used in the UK, or actually any other place with regulatory oversight of vehicle safety aspects. And equally surprised this from an otherwise excellent highly reputed vehicle maker.
The Yaris had been a model I was thinking would be ideal, where within the family they are looking for a Jazz replacement.

Not quite what I said. It does not actually pull you into the path of the oncoming vehicle, but it twitches towards the centre of the road that as you are too close to the side of the road. This normally happens when there is an oncoming vehicle on a country road or lane and you m over to the left to give passing room. It is not just me as it has been reported to DVSA and there is a long thread of over 20 pages on the Toyota owner's forum.

My own thoughts are that Toyota have designed a system that will work on all models of cars from Toyota and Lexus. That means that the same system that is used on a Landcruiser is used in the Yaris with no modifications being done to take into account the smaller size. In the Landcruiser the twitch is probably hardly noticed, but in the Yaris the equivalent is almost like a jerk. This is guess work as I have no idea whether I am remotely correct or not.

 

[Dustydog]

Not quite what I said. It does not actually pull you into the path of the oncoming vehicle, but it twitches towards the centre of the road that as you are too close to the side of the road. This normally happens when there is an oncoming vehicle on a country road or lane and you m over to the left to give passing room. It is not just me as it has been reported to DVSA and there is a long thread of over 20 pages on the Toyota owner's forum.

My own thoughts are that Toyota have designed a system that will work on all models of cars from Toyota and Lexus. That means that the same system that is used on a Landcruiser is used in the Yaris with no modifications being done to take into account the smaller size. In the Landcruiser the twitch is probably hardly noticed, but in the Yaris the equivalent is almost like a jerk. This is guess work as I have no idea whether I am remotely correct or not.

When it “twitches” say towards the central barrier does it require a human input to correct?