need some advice
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I'd strongly advise against it David.
I hope that it never happens but just supposing that you were involved in an accident and the caravan overturned or was damaged.
The consequences for the poor dog wouldn't bear thinking about, especially on a motorway and then there would be the thought of a dog running loose in panic on the carriageway.
A disaster waiting to happen - no!!!!
I hope that it never happens but just supposing that you were involved in an accident and the caravan overturned or was damaged.
The consequences for the poor dog wouldn't bear thinking about, especially on a motorway and then there would be the thought of a dog running loose in panic on the carriageway.
A disaster waiting to happen - no!!!!
In reply to your comment David, a caravan is nothing like a car, a caravan will totally disintergrate if it overturns at high speed. A car involved in a similar accident will be severely damaged, but will remain largely intact.
As a non dog owner, I think that all dogs should be restricted to travelling in a secure cage that is fixed to the floor pan of the vehicle. The damage that can be caused by a dog flying about unrestrained in an accident, does not bear thinking about.
Most people will have seen the stupid things that some dog owners do, IE: letting a dog sit on their lap whilst driving, having a dog sitting on the front passenger seat, or jumping about inside the passenger compartment. And the powers that be pass laws about using a mobile phone in a car, absolutely brilliant peice of legislation.
Steve W
As a non dog owner, I think that all dogs should be restricted to travelling in a secure cage that is fixed to the floor pan of the vehicle. The damage that can be caused by a dog flying about unrestrained in an accident, does not bear thinking about.
Most people will have seen the stupid things that some dog owners do, IE: letting a dog sit on their lap whilst driving, having a dog sitting on the front passenger seat, or jumping about inside the passenger compartment. And the powers that be pass laws about using a mobile phone in a car, absolutely brilliant peice of legislation.
Steve W
Legally you are allowed to have animals in the caravan while it is being towed, morally is another question.
Humans are not allowed in the caravan whilst it is being towed.
Last year there was a car and van that overturned onto their sides on the M65 at Nelson, there were 2 dogs in the back of the car (a Disco), one of the dogs came out of the side window and was stuck under the car, I held the dog while the fire service lifted the car and then sat with the dog until the vet came. The dog had quite a bit of damage to it's skin, I don't know how it went on. Me and my wife then took the other dog to the caravaners daughters house, that dog although not injured was also really shaken up.
A lady in the car was also trapped in the car, as her arm was out of the side window an got it trapped under the car.
So even animal in the car get injured.
I often wonder how the caravaners and dogs are after the accident.
Jimbo
Humans are not allowed in the caravan whilst it is being towed.
Last year there was a car and van that overturned onto their sides on the M65 at Nelson, there were 2 dogs in the back of the car (a Disco), one of the dogs came out of the side window and was stuck under the car, I held the dog while the fire service lifted the car and then sat with the dog until the vet came. The dog had quite a bit of damage to it's skin, I don't know how it went on. Me and my wife then took the other dog to the caravaners daughters house, that dog although not injured was also really shaken up.
A lady in the car was also trapped in the car, as her arm was out of the side window an got it trapped under the car.
So even animal in the car get injured.
I often wonder how the caravaners and dogs are after the accident.
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David
Sit in the van at a layby on a dual carriageway. You'll be amazed how much buffetting takes place. Then just imagine how turbulent , relative to the car, the ride will be. The poor old dog will be sick as a dog and well distressed.
Not for my dogs.
Cheers
Dustydog
Sit in the van at a layby on a dual carriageway. You'll be amazed how much buffetting takes place. Then just imagine how turbulent , relative to the car, the ride will be. The poor old dog will be sick as a dog and well distressed.
Not for my dogs.
Cheers
Dustydog
A couple I know were returning from Hampshire way when involved in an accident on the motorway. They had their two KC Spaniels in the van when it overturned and they never saw them again.
Once when attending a road accident some 10 years ago there were two badly injured children in one the cars but the mother was beyond our help. When extricating the young girl a policeman asked me to shine my torch into the rear footwell and there we found a cowering, trembling Cocker Spaniel. We took the dog with us along with the most seriously injured child. After handing her over at A&E we then called out a vet (2a.m.) at a local practice. The dog survived despite kidney damage. I had to shower and change my uniform after because the dog decided to piddle his blood tinged urine on me when I carried him into the surgery.
As an aside, and a coincidence, about 4 years later me and the same chap I worked with on that night attended another accident. It was the same young girl, now 16 years of age, who had come off her scooter. Thankfully she wasn't injured this time :O)
As a dog owner I wouldn't even dream of putting them in the caravan whilst towing, total madness.
Once when attending a road accident some 10 years ago there were two badly injured children in one the cars but the mother was beyond our help. When extricating the young girl a policeman asked me to shine my torch into the rear footwell and there we found a cowering, trembling Cocker Spaniel. We took the dog with us along with the most seriously injured child. After handing her over at A&E we then called out a vet (2a.m.) at a local practice. The dog survived despite kidney damage. I had to shower and change my uniform after because the dog decided to piddle his blood tinged urine on me when I carried him into the surgery.
As an aside, and a coincidence, about 4 years later me and the same chap I worked with on that night attended another accident. It was the same young girl, now 16 years of age, who had come off her scooter. Thankfully she wasn't injured this time :O)
As a dog owner I wouldn't even dream of putting them in the caravan whilst towing, total madness.
I wouldn't dream of carrying a dog in the caravan - even setting aside the welfare issues, I'd have said that there's a good chance that the dog would be violently ill.
I always buy a proper fitted dog guard for the car, which the dog stays behind. My current car is great - I was able to buy a divider as well - so I can stack one side of the boot to the roof, and keep the dog in the other side.
I always buy a proper fitted dog guard for the car, which the dog stays behind. My current car is great - I was able to buy a divider as well - so I can stack one side of the boot to the roof, and keep the dog in the other side.
I assume that David's idea was to have some form of cage on the floor of the van. The thought of not doing so is not worth thinking about. If the dog decided to get sick, or worse, then your upholstery is going to need more than a wipe down. Even in a cage your floor could receive messy excess.
As has been mentioned a caravan is a pretty violent space to be in while moving. A while back a correspondent for a magazine watched Alko's test methods and sat on the chassis while they simulated 'normal motion' He found it extremely uncomfortable.
If you are carrying any animals then they should be secured inside the tow vehicle where you can see them at all times. We have all seen the car driving along with the dog sitting on the front passenger seat, and wondered whether the dog was giving road directions, but seriously remember that in an accident the car stops first, you stop second when the seatbelt and airbag applies, the dog however keeps coming forward and either hits you, or goes through the windscreen. The thought of 40 kg of Great Dane or whatever coming at you at 70 mph is no joke. Therefore keep it in a cage that is secured behind some form of barrier.
As has been mentioned a caravan is a pretty violent space to be in while moving. A while back a correspondent for a magazine watched Alko's test methods and sat on the chassis while they simulated 'normal motion' He found it extremely uncomfortable.
If you are carrying any animals then they should be secured inside the tow vehicle where you can see them at all times. We have all seen the car driving along with the dog sitting on the front passenger seat, and wondered whether the dog was giving road directions, but seriously remember that in an accident the car stops first, you stop second when the seatbelt and airbag applies, the dog however keeps coming forward and either hits you, or goes through the windscreen. The thought of 40 kg of Great Dane or whatever coming at you at 70 mph is no joke. Therefore keep it in a cage that is secured behind some form of barrier.
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