New Dog Breeds????

[Lord Braykewynde]

Years ago when I was young there were always plenty of puppies about of no specific breed. Then we called them mongrels. If you were good enough to give one a home it was yours for the asking, no charge.

Why is today any different? Why are the public today more gullible?

Take for instance in our local paper out today. There are for sale Sproodle, Labradoodle AND Labweiler puppies for sale. They are simply mongrels, bred by irresponsible owners who let another dog at their ***** or couldn't be bothered to get their ***** spayed.

The difference today is the gullible public pay £200+ for one of these pups which just encourages more greedy unscrupulous owners to cross breed ----- Unbelievable :O(

 

[LMH]

It's a big problem at the moment. There's some people crossing breeds or cross breeds with other types and creating 'monsters'. Not only are bitches having problems in whelp, but there's conformation and temperament issues to be taken into account too. Plus hereditory health issues.

Some people still say the same rubbish:

My ***** needs to 'have' a litter, then we'll get her speyed

If a bull breed covers a *****, its head will become massive

I don't want 'him' to go through life without having a 'jump'

It's ok, my *****/dog doesn't need health testing, it's been wormed

Or, in the case of HC, 'but his/her eyes are fine'

Then you have the 'rare colours, or 'rare pink nose' brigade too. Selling pups bred for their 'rare' colours without any regard to type, temperament and no health testing carried out and the 'rare' colours and Dudley nose are massive faults. People are trying to introudce the merle gene into breeds with no history of the merle and all the potential problems that can cause.

An idiot I know informed me he was 'having a snow dog on breeding terms'. He had no idea what was involved financially, emotionally and all the crap involved in 'breeding terms'. He also informed me that these 'snow dogs' sell for

 

[LMH]

It's a big problem at the moment. There's some people crossing breeds or cross breeds with other types and creating 'monsters'. Not only are bitches having problems in whelp, but there's conformation and temperament issues to be taken into account too. Plus hereditory health issues.

Some people still say the same rubbish:

My ***** needs to 'have' a litter, then we'll get her speyed

If a bull breed covers a *****, its head will become massive

I don't want 'him' to go through life without having a 'jump'

It's ok, my *****/dog doesn't need health testing, it's been wormed

Or, in the case of HC, 'but his/her eyes are fine'

Then you have the 'rare colours, or 'rare pink nose' brigade too. Selling pups bred for their 'rare' colours without any regard to type, temperament and no health testing carried out and the 'rare' colours and Dudley nose are massive faults. People are trying to introudce the merle gene into breeds with no history of the merle and all the potential problems that can cause.

An idiot I know informed me he was 'having a snow dog on breeding terms'. He had no idea what was involved financially, emotionally and all the crap involved in 'breeding terms'. He also informed me that these 'snow dogs' sell for

 

[BrianStAlbans]

Sproodle, Labradoodle AND Labweiler ,

How about crossing a Bulldog with a Shih Tzu ?

that would sell ;O)

 

[602]

Hi,

What I would like would be a black lab, about the same size as a Jack Russel.

Think of a breed of dog ...... any breed. Now tell me what health or behaviour problems its going to have. Cross that one off your list, and think of a breed ........

We have a rescue mutt, weighed 5kg at three months, which is when we got him. He is hyper, not called Blitz for nothing. Now weighs 30kg.

But what about cats. When I was a lad, cats were known to be clean, buried their exhaust. Nowadays they just dump it on our flower beds. Unless they are close enough to home, to *** in and use their kitty litter.

602

 

[Karina_374530710]

Hi,

The Labradoodle was bred with a proper purpose in mind. A poodle has excellent coat qualities for people with respiratory problems such as Asthma as poodle's don't shed hair (also the Alaskan Malamute/Husky has similar coat qualities). The Lab is a well known 'intelligence/assistance' dog (apart from mine which is as daft as a hatter) and so the Labradoodle was bred as a solution for assistance dog owners with allergy/respiratory problems by taking the best of both breeds.

I do, however, agree with other comments about irresponsible owners breeding for the sake of it.

My dog (much loved and ruler of the house) is a pedigree and is still 'good to go', but I won't let him breed just for the sake of it.

 

[602]

Hi Karina,

You don't have a chocolate lab, do you?

602

 

[ValA.]

We have friends with a 'Sprollie' - presumably Springer/Collie, and others with what they call a 'Jacksie' - again, presumably a Jack Russell/Dachshund.

 

[thursdays child]

602 i have a chocolate SANTA if that is of use!! SORREEE could not pass up the chance. However on a more serious note it is concerning that breeds are deliberately being mixed, what about if you happen to get the one that has inherited ALL the health problems associated with both breeds instead of the attributes?Besides physical characteristics the mental raits also have to be taken into consideration.You could end up with musclebound assassin!!!!!!!!!!OH NO

Thursdays Child

 

[602]

Hi,

I queried the chocolate lab, as an owner of such a dog told me they were absolute nutters, and seldom used as guide dogs .... although there are exceptions.

I understand that some people are breeding GSD x wolf. Not a good idea!!!!! They CAN be hunters like a wolf, and not scared of humans, like a GSD. Both good traits, but not when mixed.

602

 

[Karina_374530710]

Hi 602

Mine is a black lab and utterly beautiful. He's 3/4 show dog which are bread to be bigger in the chest than their slimline cousins, the working dog.

My boy is 3 1/2 now and weighs 48kg (approx 7.5 stone). Before anyone jumps up and down saying that he is overweight, he is pure muscle and is some 3 inches above the breed 'standard'. Even the vet cant' believe he is so big and not fat (in fact, we have a job to get him to eat properly). He is so strong as a result of being on steroids at 8 months following a serious eye operation after a scratch on his eye progressed to a disolving ulcer on his cornea.

He is fully recovered now and has retained good sight in his eye, but is as strong as an ox as a result of the steroids. Mind you, I wouldn't change him - he is as gentle as a puppy with my 10 yr old daughter and will lie on his back for a tummy tickle from anyone!

He is just a little 'excitable' and whenever I go away in the van, he goes to the kennels on his 'doggy holidays' which he absolutely loves - I wouldn't inflict him on any camp site!!!

 

[LMH]

Hi Karina

Sorry to hear about your dog's corneal ulceration, glad to hear its healed. Lucky dog.

I'm very very interested in your case. Can you tell me which type of steroids your dog was given and over how long a period?

I ask that because I thought anti-inflammatory steroids were most commonly used although I understand anabolic steriods can sometimes be prescribed. Which brings me to my next question/query. Are you saying his excessive muscle bulk and strength has been exacerbated by the use of steroids?

Look forward to hearing from you.

Lisa

 

[Karina_374530710]

Hi Lisa

My dog had a scratch on his eye which the vet thinks was caused by a bramble thorn (apparently, very common but can contain much bacteria). My vets (at that time) missed the scratch when I first took him to see them and said he just had an irritated eye. When I took him back several days later, his eye was white and very sore. The vets then started saying that he had a 'nasty eye' and needed specialist vet treatment. I was referred to a brilliant vet practice in Solihull which specialise in eyes and skeletal problems and had to be there at 9am the next morning. Apparently, the vet informed me that he could have lost his eye if we'd waited another day. He had a disolving ulcer on his cornea, but if you can reinstate the blood supply, then it will regenerate (if I understood correct). He was operated on that day and now has a graft of skin from under his eyelid on the front of his eyeball (sounds gruesome but we don't see it much now) and he has very good sight from his eye.

He had quite a lot of odema (fluid) in his eye after the op and as such was put on steroids for 1 month until it cleared up. He was 8/9 months at this point and was having another growth spurt and is now pure muscle - think of a body builder and then mix it with a lab - that's my boy!

He is extremely strong - he has pulled me over before and doesn't realise his strength. Our dog trainer/kennel owner is brilliant but refers to him affectionaly as a 'gentle thug'.

Having said that, my 10 year old can do anything with him and all he wants is fuss and to play (and the occasional cuddle which you can't really say no to!).

I have nothing but praise for the vets in Solihull(not cheap -

 

[LMH]

Hi

Thanks for the reply. Really pleased to hear he's made a total recovery.

I'm still interested in the steroid-muscle points. Was he put on anti-inflammatory steroids for one month? could you just clarify that please. I'd just looooove to see some pics of him if you'd like to post them on here.

What sort of exercise do you do with him?

Many thanks.

Lisa