I'm considering handing in my 2004 Xtrail for the latest Santa Fe diesel automatic. Any opinions and experiences with this car would be appreciated. Thanks
New Hyundai Santa Fe
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Get a 7 seater, they have self levelling suspension. We had a 5 seater and the rear suspension was very soft and wallowy when towing. They are very good value for the money, have a very powerful engine and excellent 6 speed auto gearbox. Only fly in the ointment is the indicator stalk is on the otherside of the steering wheel, but you soon adapt.
Go for it, you won't regret it - the 2010-on model is improved on the previous version, which was quite good anyway. The new R-series 2.2 diesel has enormous torque as well as almost 200bhp power. The new 6-speed automatic is very smooth and always in the right gear. The suspension was also revamped so that roll and pitch are almost eliminated, not easy on a 2 tonne SUV. Load capacity is enormous, especially when measured with back seat and load cover in place.
My 2011 Santa Fe 2.2CRDi automatic has averaged 24mpg towing over the year, ranging from 21-27 depending on road and weather conditions. Solo consumption is averaging 33mpg, ranging from 26-43.
I've found it very comfortable and relaxing - still felt fresh after towing 470 miles up into Scotland, in the one day.
Be aware that a new model, not a facelift, is due late next year - but it may be more of a crossover than a SUV.
I've got the 7-seat specifically to get self-levelling but I doubt it's needed on the 2010-on models as the rear suspension is much firmer than previously.
My 2011 Santa Fe 2.2CRDi automatic has averaged 24mpg towing over the year, ranging from 21-27 depending on road and weather conditions. Solo consumption is averaging 33mpg, ranging from 26-43.
I've found it very comfortable and relaxing - still felt fresh after towing 470 miles up into Scotland, in the one day.
Be aware that a new model, not a facelift, is due late next year - but it may be more of a crossover than a SUV.
I've got the 7-seat specifically to get self-levelling but I doubt it's needed on the 2010-on models as the rear suspension is much firmer than previously.
We had a 57 plate Santa fe on contract hire but the lease has finished now. We had the CDX 7 , auto, what a fantastic Towcar and it towed our twin axel Wyoming with no probs and the mptlm is 1678kg. I would have another at the drop of a hat. Why don't you look and see if you can get a good deal on a 09/59 plate just before the new ones came out that way the piggies in the bank won't worry as much lol. You get either a 5 or 7 year lease anyway go on treat yourself if you don't the government will eventually.
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Keep us posted x
I don't think a 7 year lease on a 2-3 year old car is a good idea.Jo-Anne Wyoming said:
Whilst I understand the economics of getting the earlier 2006-2009 model, the later 2010-on model is better dynamically - both power and torque are substantially increased while fuel consumption is improved and 6-speed transmissions are used. Suspension settings are also much better.
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Roger I understand what you are saying but let me explain a bit better. I was advising options because of pennies in the bank as quoted. So it would be cheaper to get a slightly Older model and it may have some warranty on as I cant remember if you get a 5 year warranty or a 7 year warrenty when they were new.I understand the new ones tow more and different engine and better fuel consumption but I was just advising because of pennies in the bank and it but be newer than the x-trail and would tow a lot more than the x-trail.
I would have another santa fe 06-present model auto , 7 seater any day.
I hope I have now explained myself a bit more clearly
I would have another santa fe 06-present model auto , 7 seater any day.
I hope I have now explained myself a bit more clearly
It was your comment about 5/7 year lease that bothered me - I take it you meant 5/7 year manufacturers warranty?
In the case of Hyundai, it's 5 years unlimited mileage - for Kia it's 7 years but limited to 100,000 miles.
In the case of Hyundai, it's 5 years unlimited mileage - for Kia it's 7 years but limited to 100,000 miles.
I bought one in March, 5 seat premium auto, and have been running a blog on it since, may give a bit more info: http://www.shirker.co.uk/hyundai_santa_fe/
You do know you don't have to use the wipers on the auto setting, they do have a "off", "on" and "fast" as well as auto !!Shirker said:
My pet hate is automatic lighting - but the Santa Fe also has "off" and "on" settings so I don't use the facility.
What they don't have is an "intermittent but stop buggering about with it please car" setting. I really really wish it had an on/off for the automatic wipers and just let me set the intermittent speed as needed, or full on or off. They are a cause of much swearing and a-cursing!
You are spot-on with the auto-lights - nudging 18,000 miles now and don't think I've used the auto function once.
It is a good tow car - pulls either the 1.7 to 1.8 tonne twin axle trailer or 1.2 tonne single axle caravan with no problem at all. The trailer is getting close to the Santa Fe's upper legal limits but is more than happy to do it without struggling or feeling wrong-footed.
You are spot-on with the auto-lights - nudging 18,000 miles now and don't think I've used the auto function once.
It is a good tow car - pulls either the 1.7 to 1.8 tonne twin axle trailer or 1.2 tonne single axle caravan with no problem at all. The trailer is getting close to the Santa Fe's upper legal limits but is more than happy to do it without struggling or feeling wrong-footed.
The Santa Fe will be replaced for the 2013 model year, ie autumn 2012 and be called ix45 in Europe.forest gump said:
As with the present model, the Santa Fe / ix45 will provide the basis for a new Veracruz / ix55 for 2014 model year. The current Veracruz / ix55 hasn't been sold in the UK and there's no indication that the new one will be because the 7-seat ix45 will meet UK needs.
Hyundai is also aiming to introduce a premium brand, like Honda, Nissan and Toyota have done with Acura, Infinity and Lexus respectively - but this will take several years to roll out - the UK may not get Veracruz / ix55 until the premium version is available.
Sounds interesting - we've used Santa Fe's for work for a while now and each model update has been a good step forwards so if they continue the trajectory the replacement should be good. And I do like the ix35's looks so a chunkier version of that sounds tempting.
I do think that Hyundai and Kia shouldnt tinker with what they have and that is very good value for money cars.
If they start trying to compete with premuim brands and premium prices then they are not the great value they once were.
You only have to look at the New Kia Sorento too expensive and not as good as the old Sorento, hence why the Sante Fe is the value for money 4x4 now.
If they start trying to compete with premuim brands and premium prices then they are not the great value they once were.
You only have to look at the New Kia Sorento too expensive and not as good as the old Sorento, hence why the Sante Fe is the value for money 4x4 now.
That's why the Hyundai Kia Group need a third brand - it's pointless having Kia competing with Hyundai but neither is good enough for premium.Michael E said:
A mesage for Jo-Anne Wyoming, can you please tell me more about this used car leasing scheme that you mention, I'd love a newer shape Hyundai Santa fe than the 05 plate one that I have but they're out of my budget, your comments have got me thinking about the possibility of leasing a used one???
Mike
Mike
You only have to look at the New Kia Sorento too expensive and not as good as the old Sorento
That may be your opinion, but as someone who has owned all 3 models of the Sorento, I don't agree. The new model is a much better all round car, it's more comfortable, more fuel efficient and very nearly as good a tow car as the previous models. In the seven years that I have owned a Sorento, I only ever needed to use low range once and that was to pull a 7.5 Tonne truck out of a muddy field and for all the thanks I got for it, the next person who gets stuck can phone the AA.
Steve W
That may be your opinion, but as someone who has owned all 3 models of the Sorento, I don't agree. The new model is a much better all round car, it's more comfortable, more fuel efficient and very nearly as good a tow car as the previous models. In the seven years that I have owned a Sorento, I only ever needed to use low range once and that was to pull a 7.5 Tonne truck out of a muddy field and for all the thanks I got for it, the next person who gets stuck can phone the AA.
Steve W
I think a lot of people bought the original Sorento just because it was a truck-based 4x4, very heavy, with low range, and cheap - many of those same people didn't like the new Sorento because it's a car-based 4wd, lighter, no low range and more expensive.steve w77 said:
Equally there are many like me that wouldn't ever dream of buying a truck-based 4x4, very heavy, with low range however cheap but did at least look at the new Sorento before buying a new Santa Fe - which the Sorento is based on.
As well as being £1,800 to £4,750 cheaper to buy, the Santa Fe has better residuals than the Sorento despite it's longer warranty (7 years compared to 5)Michael E said:
RogerL said:
I wouldn't swear to it, but I think that the Hyundai warranty is two years shorter than Kia's but covers more stuff, as well as being unlimited mileage. Given I will do around 150,000 miles in five years that was a big draw for me, with a Sorento I'd be out of warranty in just over three years. Nice cars though - had a look at one before going back to a Santa Fe again.
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