now the grockle season is over..................................

[peed_5078636]

.................are you going to put your caravan back in it's hole? shut it up for autumn, winter and spring?

I do so hope so.

It would mean so much to me, like more time with my children in the evening after a hard day at work. (I only get to see them for an hour on a good day, hardly even at all if I get held up on the way home)

I won't live in fear of being killed because that caravan swinging violently behind a vehicle doing 75mph on the M5 won't be there.

My view from my daily commute won't be cluttered with caravans in layby's with overwieght owners decimating the countryside that I live in with their used teabags.

Reading a few posts earlier, some of you seem familiar with the A30 near Bodmin. I wouldn't be half as bad if you all stayed at home, generally it's ok outside the holiday season

Why do you feel the need to put everyone else through pain for your own selfish desires?

The following is an extract taken from the highway code that I think the majority (not all - 1 in every 100 seem to know this) of caravanners could be reminded of

145: Do not hold up a long queue of traffic, especially if you are driving a large or slow moving vehicle. Check your mirrors frequently, and if necessary, pull in where it is safe and let traffic pass.

Please, and I beg you, please, do us all a favour next year and leave your caravan at home. Come and enjoy the countryside by all means (you probably enjoy it as long as you don't have to live here - "the caravans are a pain in the a**e") come and see all the delights it has to offer, experience all mother nature can throw at you, but don't block up the roads, they weren't designed for it

 

[Lutz]

I take it you're either not a caravanner or you're trying to get another futile debate going.

I take exception to blaming caravanners in general for holding up traffic. If a solo car is going slower than conditions would allow one grumbles about that particular driver but if a caravanner does the same, it reflects on the whole caravanning community. That just isn't fair. There is absolutely no reason why caravans cannot keep up with the general traffic flow. I used to tow at the max. towload limit with a not particularly powerful car but never had queues of traffic behind me. In order to be able to maintain necessary acceleration it just meant having to forget using 5th gear when towing. Under those conditions I was always able to move with the rest of the traffic.

 

[Caroline3]

Whoops somebody has rattled his cage! he is probably one of these people who drive like a maniac at 100 miles per hour weaving about lanes and cutting people up. Oh well looking at his name he probably wrote this when he was!!

Sad little man! Probably sits in Manchester airport for hours on end with a shell suit on waiting to go to Benidorm!

 

[Wendy-Norfolk]

What this idiot does not realise is that in areas like Cornwall the tourist industry relies upon caravanners, without us there would be alot more unemployment in that area. I bet he would feel differently if he was a shop owner!!!

 

[john_5075839]

I have lived in Cornwall for over 30 years now and feel that there is no need to travel to far out of the county with my cararvan for a holiday. Therefor i am on of the drivers c/w caravan driving on the Cornish roads. Most of the time i have to slow down for the locals or the tractors who i feel cause more problems than the holiday makers. How narrow minded can peaople be having a go at the holiday makers that bring revenue into the county! Could you please also tell me what a grockle is supposed to be? Live and let live and be proud that people want to come and visit the Westcountry.

 

[Lord Braykewynde]

Whoops somebody has rattled his cage! he is probably one of these people who drive like a maniac at 100 miles per hour weaving about lanes and cutting people up. Oh well looking at his name he probably wrote this when he was!!

Sad little man! Probably sits in Manchester airport for hours on end with a shell suit on waiting to go to Benidorm!

Laughin' my ass off at that Caroline, well put and I got great visuals from your remarks. Dont forget the pot belly sticking out from under the shell suite top, the ear ring and MORON tattooed on his forehead.

 

[Lord Braykewynde]

I was wondering who had piddled in his Weetabix this morning but then I noticed he posted it at 11.34pm so maybe he was a little tired. In fact he WAS a little tired because if the idiot read what he had typed he would have noticed he was complaining about caravanners driving at 75 mph then complaining that they hold the traffic up. If what you type is true regarding being away from home for so long I bet your wife is thankful to us caravanners for not having to look at your miserable face or listen to your banal rantings. As for putting you through pain I'm gonna go to Cornwall every fortnight from now on. HeHeHeHe GET A LIFE. YOU HAVE A BAD ATTITUDE PROBLEM MATE AND NEED TREATMENT URGENTLY.

 

[CliveV]

On my last trip with the van I pulled over regularly to let traffic pass - usually got a wave of thanks or a "bib" of the horn indicating the same.

When I was younger I did get frustrated by road hold-ups and a caravan driven at 45mph on the old A303 often did make me miss appointments and late home in the evening.

Does it not (yet again) boil down to being respectful to all?

This guy has had a bad experience with caravaners that has clouded his judgment. God knows we have some "difficult" characters on this Forum. It was also not long ago that we were discussing the driving habits of a caravanner that flatly refused to go above 40mph! (may have 50mph - having a senior moment) This guy would hack anybody off!!

Especially if he feels he has a right to drive without stopping or pulling over to let the queue behind him pass.

Lets not simply dismiss this guy - he seems a family man trying to run a business. i.e. he is like the rest of us.

Lets try to be better and even more considerate drivers than we are at the moment.

I suggest it could be a good topic for an article in PC - "What annoys other drivers about caravans the most" - We could then put our point accross about the bad driving that affects us when towing.

Perhaps we could all benefit from a review of how we do things

 

[Lord Braykewynde]

Clive, you cannot debate issues with a person like that who generalises and makes out ALL caravans shouldn't be on the road (do us all a favour next year and leave your caravan at home). Notice he also generalises by saying "all" as if he speaks for 100% of Cornwall which even a buffoon knows he doesn't. As my wife will testify I stick to the speed limits (well most of the time)and am very conscientious about holding others up. Even if there is one car behind me I will either pull into a layby or if its a straight road slow up to let them by but this rarely happens. Even if I'm up behind another vehicle I still pull in and let them pass because they have more chance of overtaking than me. I know we have problems with some drivers going too slow but thats all kinds of vehicles NOT just caravans. Recently a person wrote into a magazine complaining that the police had stopped him for driving at 40mph on the motorway, he couldn't understand why. Oh well, hope peed soon finds a cure for his incontinence.

 

[MickC1]

I have lived in Cornwall for over 30 years now and feel that there is no need to travel to far out of the county with my cararvan for a holiday. Therefor i am on of the drivers c/w caravan driving on the Cornish roads. Most of the time i have to slow down for the locals or the tractors who i feel cause more problems than the holiday makers. How narrow minded can peaople be having a go at the holiday makers that bring revenue into the county! Could you please also tell me what a grockle is supposed to be? Live and let live and be proud that people want to come and visit the Westcountry.

John, a Grockle is someone on holiday in the West Country who is from outside of the area. I'm originally from Devon and the term was used extensively when I was at school when referring to any holiday maker. A Non-Grockle is a local.

 

[parker1158]

Hi All

I am not a computer buff and don't follow the jargon and ins and outs so can someone tell me is this 'peed' person a troll or real? I notice it has made unwelcome contributions to other treads.

I find it hard to believe that this type of input cannot be censored?

 

[CliveV]

Hi Chris - what you say is absolutely correct. The guy has gone over the top. But underneath all that bile is a grain of truth. I live near a New Forest Site that provides superb facilities and brings in loads of tourists.

Its great for the local economy. I was on business in Dulverton the Monday before the Bank Holiday. Saw loads of caravans on the road - not one of them driven/towed badly and all pulled over to let us go by. Without caravanners local trade in such places would simply dry up and another boarded up high street the result.

And of course - your point about 75mph but holding others up is a classic. (Like me I can see you pay attention to detail - so important don't you think!!)

However, as a regular user of the roads in the SW - this is not always the case. But thankfully the unthoughtful caravan tower is a declining breed.

What really gets up my nose is the CLOC's (Centre Lane Owners Club) on the motorways! They sit there in there Fiat Tipo's Ford Focus's Renault Twingos et al at 60 mph and cause absolute chaos all arround them.

God help us if they got into caravanning!

 

[CliveV]

Hi All

I am not a computer buff and don't follow the jargon and ins and outs so can someone tell me is this 'peed' person a troll or real? I notice it has made unwelcome contributions to other treads.

I find it hard to believe that this type of input cannot be censored?

Best to deal with each Troll as it pops its head up. Firstly its fun and secondly by giving them that little bit of attention they crave I feel I am doing my civic duty by helping these sad individuals less able to deal with lifes machinations.

 

[Daventura]

I often find its those with their Discoverys, Shoguns and Reliant Robins who I suppose, must also be CLOC's, hogging the middle lane. Usually with their head and spotlights blazing. Or am I just generalising?

 

[Surfer]

I reckon it is some caravanner winding you people up to see your reaction. Hmm think I will take my caravan to Bodmin wherever that is to wind him up! I assume that it is a little village somewhere in England.

 

[ProfJohnL]

Hi Chris - what you say is absolutely correct. The guy has gone over the top. But underneath all that bile is a grain of truth. I live near a New Forest Site that provides superb facilities and brings in loads of tourists.

Its great for the local economy. I was on business in Dulverton the Monday before the Bank Holiday. Saw loads of caravans on the road - not one of them driven/towed badly and all pulled over to let us go by. Without caravanners local trade in such places would simply dry up and another boarded up high street the result.

And of course - your point about 75mph but holding others up is a classic. (Like me I can see you pay attention to detail - so important don't you think!!)

However, as a regular user of the roads in the SW - this is not always the case. But thankfully the unthoughtful caravan tower is a declining breed.

What really gets up my nose is the CLOC's (Centre Lane Owners Club) on the motorways! They sit there in there Fiat Tipo's Ford Focus's Renault Twingos et al at 60 mph and cause absolute chaos all arround them.

God help us if they got into caravanning!

Hello CliveV,

May I point you to the threasd in towing and driving safely section about 50mph drivers.

I don't condone the unthoughtfull action of drivers hogging any lane (other than the nearside), but just as Klarky believes, slow drivers do not in themselves cause 'havoc crisis or mayhem'. That accolade sits firmly on the shoulders of drivers of faster vehicles that do not take appropriate action to negotiate or negate them safely.

I agree that slower vehilces do constitute a hazard.

 

[Wendy-Norfolk]

I often find its those with their Discoverys, Shoguns and Reliant Robins who I suppose, must also be CLOC's, hogging the middle lane. Usually with their head and spotlights blazing. Or am I just generalising?

I didn't think three wheelers were allowed on motorways!!!!

 

[Nige_5041181]

I reckon it is some caravanner winding you people up to see your reaction. Hmm think I will take my caravan to Bodmin wherever that is to wind him up! I assume that it is a little village somewhere in England.

I actually live in Bodmin and work all over the south-west, most hold ups are not by caravans,but by elderly people driving their rover metro's/45's at 40 mph! most caravanners I come across do pull over when safe to do so,also "peed" needs to bear in mind that caravans are retricted to 50,or 60 on dual carridge ways, by law.

Ps, Bodmin is a town in Cornwall,not a village in England.

 

[Mike_5041089]

As others have said, it's not the caravanner which causes the hold ups, it's all the other idiots who drive too slowly on main roads, where the limit is normally 60mph. On motorways the CLOCS cause more problems, as they will not pull in to the nearside - EVER! Sometimes I've been stuck behind these morons for miles who just sit there doing their 55mph, and baulking all other traffic. Who gets the blame though? Us vanners of course, because the other drivers can't see in front of us. I do about 40000 solo miles pa, about 80% motorway, and my car's trip computer tells me average speed is only 47mph, due to the incessant hold ups, delays, accidents - when was the last time anyone tried to or could do even 70mph on the M25?

 

[BigRoy]

Dear Peed,

I recently spent two weeks holiday in your area and probably spent about

 

[VIP2006]

Have you noticed that "peed" has made his statement and then departed from the debate. Please don't take any heed of topics in which the starter starts off the debate and then doesnt partake further. IMHO

 

[VIP2006]

Dear Peed,

I recently spent two weeks holiday in your area and probably spent about

 

[gypsy]

People like this are best ignored, so onto the next topic.

 

[Daventura]

Big Roy youll have to be careful using certain words on this forum or chance the wrath of Clive of Trollop. (Or maybe he only picks these things up with certain members)???

 

[Wendy-Norfolk]

Big Roy youll have to be careful using certain words on this forum or chance the wrath of Clive of Trollop. (Or maybe he only picks these things up with certain members)???

NOT FUNNY!!!!