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[Lord Braykewynde]

This morning I finally brought my caravan home after 3 months away in it - sad really or maybe I'm a sad ol' ******. The last month we have been at The Paddocks, a lovely CL just a few miles from my home in Herefordshire. It's listed on.... http://www.5van.co.uk

It's just like a miniature C.C. site and the owners are very friendly.

The point of my post is that we didn't get back to our van until late on the 23rd and left early on the 24th. In that time 2 more vans had arrived on site. We went back to the van on Christmas Day just to check all was ok when we found a Christmas card in our awning from the people on the next pitch who were from Hampshire. They came out while we were there and we had a nice chat. In the meantime the other new arrivals, who were from Gloucestershire came out to introduce themselves with a jug of mulled wine and walnuts. Unfortunately we couldn't stay long because we had the turkey in the oven at home :O(

The point of this post is what a difference from Billy and Bessie Bessacarr who were already on site when we arrived a month ago. Not once did they speak. I was passing Billy only 4 feet away while taking the dog out, he didn't even bother to look around and I'm afraid I don't talk to the back of peoples heads. I know of friends who do, just to try and shame them into speaking but that's not me. If they want to be miserable buggers let them.I consider myself a friendly person who enjoys a laugh and will speak to anyone but what I can't get my head around is the ignorance of some people. It costs nothing to say Good Morning even if they don't want to chat. I can understand that not all do but surely just an acknowledgement is only common courtesy/politeness.

I always remember the first time I took Her Ladyship home to meet my parents in the mining village of Clipstone. While out walking people used to say "heyup me duck" or "it's a grand day innit". Her Ladyship thought I knew all these people because here in Hereford she wasn't used to strangers passing the time of day with you. That's the way I grew up and wonder how these strange people find happiness.

I would be interested to hear other forum members opinions or maybe a member is one of these and could explain why they ignore everyone because caravanning is certainly a strange pasttime to pursue if they are that way inclined because you are pitching alongside like minded people :O)

 

[LMH]

Hi Lord B

I have to agree entirely with you. I think we've all met the grumps who you've described. It must be even more uncomfortable though on a CL.

This is sort of the reverse situation to yours - I can't understand some people either, we stopped on a CL last year (minus the child) and although we were only there for a couple of nights, sadly I inadvertantly upset the old chap next door (accidentally drove over his electric cable). I apologised numerous times but my crime resulted in him hounding Phil for the rest of the stay and in the end we had to keep the curtains drawn because he kept peering in. He even clocked all my movements and reported back to Phil on them, not in a friendly way. Very strange indeed. Phil is the most sociable person you could ever meet (unlike me) and in the end, he had to tell the old geezer to take a hike.

My personal way of dealing with people who won't talk and try to avoid eye contact at all costs is they get one 'hello' and a smile from me. If they don't acknowledge me after that, then that's their problem and they don't get a second chance. Shame really because if you are one a CL it just makes things awkward.

Lisa

 

[Val & Frank]

Sorry can't get worked up about this. The non good morning ers are happy with the situation, so just leave them to get on with it. They are not causing any offence by being loners, they are just doing what comes naturally to them.

Frank

 

[Val & Frank]

Sorry can't get worked up about this. The non good morning ers are happy with the situation, so just leave them to get on with it. They are not causing any offence by being loners, they are just doing what comes naturally to them.

Frank

I would be interested to hear other forum members opinions or maybe a member is one of these and could explain why they ignore everyone because caravanning is certainly a strange pasttime to pursue if they are that way inclined because you are pitching alongside like minded people :O)

Not in this case !!!!!!!

Frank

 

[gavin_5121842]

Never mind Lord B, it'll soon be Christmas.

 

[GillW]

Lord B

Please dont assume Billy and Bessie were ignorant people

My husband is the type who knows the names of and has spoken to everyone on the site before we've even had chance to put the legs down whilst I,even in middle age am still so shy to speak to strangers that it takes people a while to realise I am with him as I am normally hiding in the van

It takes me a great deal of effort to speak to peope I dont know and when I think that if I manage to summon up the courage to speak to some-one and then they move on and it has to start all over again it can be a heart breaking situation

I still love caravanning,please say hello and if I can I will summon up enough courage to reply back or at least smile at you

One reason why I like the forum,I can remain hidden

Gill

 

[Lord Braykewynde]

At no time in my post did I say they were causing an offence Frank, all I was saying is they are showing their upbringing by their ignorance and bad manners. ;O) In your comment "not in this case" are you referring that you aren't a like minded person who likes caravanning or "not in this case" you're not going to give an opinion. The former I surmise because you already have done.

 

[Lord Braykewynde]

Lord B

Please dont assume Billy and Bessie were ignorant people

My husband is the type who knows the names of and has spoken to everyone on the site before we've even had chance to put the legs down whilst I,even in middle age am still so shy to speak to strangers that it takes people a while to realise I am with him as I am normally hiding in the van

It takes me a great deal of effort to speak to peope I dont know and when I think that if I manage to summon up the courage to speak to some-one and then they move on and it has to start all over again it can be a heart breaking situation

I still love caravanning,please say hello and if I can I will summon up enough courage to reply back or at least smile at you

One reason why I like the forum,I can remain hidden

Gill

Gill I did say I can understand some don't want to speak but like you said at least you will try and even for me a smile would suffice, at least you would have acknowledged my presence after speaking to you. If I pass someone like your goodself I will always speak, no matter what, as long as there's eye contact. I will not speak to anyone who is obviously avoiding eye contact by looking the other way or staring at the ground. The situation I'm talking about Gill is where Billy and Bessie and ourselves were the only two vans on site for almost a month. I'm wasn't expecting to spend time in each others vans sociallising for heaven bid, Her Ladyship and I aren't into that kind of thing although we have 5 couples with vans who are friends of ours. Just a polite hello or good morning is good enough or in your case a smile :O). It costs nothing.

 

[Lord Braykewynde]

Hi Lord B

I have to agree entirely with you. I think we've all met the grumps who you've described. It must be even more uncomfortable though on a CL.

This is sort of the reverse situation to yours - I can't understand some people either, we stopped on a CL last year (minus the child) and although we were only there for a couple of nights, sadly I inadvertantly upset the old chap next door (accidentally drove over his electric cable). I apologised numerous times but my crime resulted in him hounding Phil for the rest of the stay and in the end we had to keep the curtains drawn because he kept peering in. He even clocked all my movements and reported back to Phil on them, not in a friendly way. Very strange indeed. Phil is the most sociable person you could ever meet (unlike me) and in the end, he had to tell the old geezer to take a hike.

My personal way of dealing with people who won't talk and try to avoid eye contact at all costs is they get one 'hello' and a smile from me. If they don't acknowledge me after that, then that's their problem and they don't get a second chance. Shame really because if you are one a CL it just makes things awkward.

Lisa

"He even clocked all my movements and reported back to Phil on them" ......... what a sad, sad jerk he was Lisa. Some people truly need to get a life.... or leave this one to stop making others as miserable as themselves. hehheh! ;O)

I suppose it takes all sorts but don't you just hope and pray that you're not pitched alongside of them. It can truly change an enjoyable holiday into a holiday from hell. I'm sure you know how to deal with them though Lisa ;O)

 

[Val & Frank]

Nothing like asking for an opinion and then trying to pull it to bits. The problem with asking for opinions is sometimes you may not like the other persons opinion when you receive it.

I just let people get on with what they are doing, if they don't speak fine. Life is to short to worry about what other peole are doing.

As Gavin says it will soon be Christmas again Relax and let life just pass on by.

Frank

 

[LMH]

Hi Lord B

I have to agree entirely with you. I think we've all met the grumps who you've described. It must be even more uncomfortable though on a CL.

This is sort of the reverse situation to yours - I can't understand some people either, we stopped on a CL last year (minus the child) and although we were only there for a couple of nights, sadly I inadvertantly upset the old chap next door (accidentally drove over his electric cable). I apologised numerous times but my crime resulted in him hounding Phil for the rest of the stay and in the end we had to keep the curtains drawn because he kept peering in. He even clocked all my movements and reported back to Phil on them, not in a friendly way. Very strange indeed. Phil is the most sociable person you could ever meet (unlike me) and in the end, he had to tell the old geezer to take a hike.

My personal way of dealing with people who won't talk and try to avoid eye contact at all costs is they get one 'hello' and a smile from me. If they don't acknowledge me after that, then that's their problem and they don't get a second chance. Shame really because if you are one a CL it just makes things awkward.

Lisa

I know, he was a sad old so and so. What I did notice was that he had what I can only assume was a wife in the caravan. I never saw her venture out at all.

Mind you, when you're used to the fockers visiting your house, old chaps like that are pussy cats.

Lisa !!! Happy New Year.

 

[Lord Braykewynde]

Frank I wasn't pulling your post to bits - just asking you to clarify what you meant because like under the green topic it sounded as if you had been sniffing the vino again. Also an observation doesn't mean I worry about them not speaking so you can rest assured I'm losing no sleep - but thank you for your concern... lmaoooooo. At least you are on form Frank, you were the last person I expected to agree with me :O) hehheh!

 

[Lol1]

I'm with Gill on this one. I'm hopeless at meeting strangers, not a great conversationalist and I like to listen more than I talk. I'm also quite single minded, never have been a multi tasker. So if I'm doing something, no matter what it is, I may appear ignorant when I ignore someone. Truth is, quite often I'm concentrating on something and by the time I recognize the fact that someone was being sociable, the moment has passed.

Perhaps extra wind breaks will help....?

 

[Val & Frank]

Also an observation doesn't mean I worry about them not speaking so you can rest assured I'm

Then why bother to write a page about it weird???

No I don't drink vino.

With regards to the green post all I was pointing out was that "experts" led the world to believing that Y2K would close down airports, hospital computers would crash, power stations would shut down etc etc.Nothing happened !!!! Why did the Ice Age occur which men caused it ?. Coal was laid down when the UK had a semi tropical climate an awful long time ago. That was the essence of my points, is GW a natural occurence or not ??

You can see why this country overthrew royalty as a governing institution. It was because the education standard is quite low. Look at Charles, William and Harry even

 

[Lord Braykewynde]

Also an observation doesn't mean I worry about them not speaking so you can rest assured I'm

Then why bother to write a page about it weird???

No I don't drink vino.

With regards to the green post all I was pointing out was that "experts" led the world to believing that Y2K would close down airports, hospital computers would crash, power stations would shut down etc etc.Nothing happened !!!! Why did the Ice Age occur which men caused it ?. Coal was laid down when the UK had a semi tropical climate an awful long time ago. That was the essence of my points, is GW a natural occurence or not ??

You can see why this country overthrew royalty as a governing institution. It was because the education standard is quite low. Look at Charles, William and Harry even

 

[Lord Braykewynde]

I'm with Gill on this one. I'm hopeless at meeting strangers, not a great conversationalist and I like to listen more than I talk. I'm also quite single minded, never have been a multi tasker. So if I'm doing something, no matter what it is, I may appear ignorant when I ignore someone. Truth is, quite often I'm concentrating on something and by the time I recognize the fact that someone was being sociable, the moment has passed.

Perhaps extra wind breaks will help....?

Ask yourself though Lol, would you spend an whole month on a site with just one other van a few yards away without saying hello? You go to the meets and meet people, surely that proves that you are socciable.

 

[Lol1]

I'm with Gill on this one. I'm hopeless at meeting strangers, not a great conversationalist and I like to listen more than I talk. I'm also quite single minded, never have been a multi tasker. So if I'm doing something, no matter what it is, I may appear ignorant when I ignore someone. Truth is, quite often I'm concentrating on something and by the time I recognize the fact that someone was being sociable, the moment has passed.

Perhaps extra wind breaks will help....?

I'm not disputing what you say Lord B, far from it. There are indeed some out there, that really don't want to join in. And really, they don't have to. Some go away for the solitude. Unfortunately, they do the same things that people like myself do, making it hard to differentiate between the two. For instance, I haven't had much to do with motorhomers and on the rare occasion where our paths have crossed, they seem to have an ignore button for every occasion, the bigger the outfit the worse they get. My thinking is that all they need is an invite for a few drinks and a BBQ to break the ice. In fact, if you attend the Easter meet, you can practice on me. Wait hang on, just went all homophobic for a second there. But you get my drift.

Trouble is, I'm not the sort of person that does the inviting, the wife is much better at it, than myself.

The thing about going to the "Meet" is that we all know each other to begin with. Mark the dates in your diary L.B, if you don't enjoy it, you can take it back and get a replacement.

;o)

 

[RichardS1]

Saying a simple word like hello or morning to a fellow caravanner is not asking them for an in depth conversation and it does suprise me on the rare occasion when you do not get a response from the person you have spoken to. It is common courtesy to respond as it wold be to thank anybody for helping you

 

[MalcolmL]

Saying a simple word like hello or morning to a fellow caravanner is not asking them for an in depth conversation and it does suprise me on the rare occasion when you do not get a response from the person you have spoken to. It is common courtesy to respond as it wold be to thank anybody for helping you

Maybe the non-responding person is hard of hearing. Not terribly likely, I agree, but possible.

Malcolm

 

[Val & Frank]

Maybe the non-responding person is hard of hearing. Not terribly likely, I agree, but possible.

Malcolm

And possibly almost blind, not likley but possible !!!

Happy New Year Malcolm,

have a good one

Val & Frank

 

[MONKEY_374232851]

They are just down reet iggorant (In a hereford accent. Or is it Yorkshire)

 

[MONKEY_374232851]

ere we go again

 

[NorfolkMike]

People!!!! People!! and L.B. in particular!!!

You have to remember they could be deaf, they could be foreign, or their accents could let them down, they could be blind and did not see you, their face might not do 'smiles', They might have just had an almighty row with H.T.S.B.O. (or even him ect)

But of course you are most likly right-------- They are just Pig Ignorant.

But do you realy want it to spoil your day??

ttfn

 

[will2]

I always say hello if they dont speak because it must be harder not to reply because they have to think should i reply or not.

just saying hello is quicker.

 

[Lord Braykewynde]

People!!!! People!! and L.B. in particular!!!

You have to remember they could be deaf, they could be foreign, or their accents could let them down, they could be blind and did not see you, their face might not do 'smiles', They might have just had an almighty row with H.T.S.B.O. (or even him ect)

But of course you are most likly right-------- They are just Pig Ignorant.

But do you realy want it to spoil your day??

ttfn

Hehheh! Mike - then again they might have the trots and are in a rush, maybe they've got toothache or the weathers playing up with their piles. Even worse their spouse could have refused them their nuptials the night before :O(

I never let it spoil my day Mike but I'm just interested in what makes them tick - surely life can't be all that bad, especially for a whole month in Billy and Bessies case ;O)

Her Ladyship is talking about going to Norfolk this year in the van but I don't know what the chances are of getting through passport control, us western yokels are a bit different from you eastern oiks.