The videos of construction of the Pegasus on the caravan channel ae pretty impresive they make the construction of a caravan look very easy.
The front and roof is all one piece if you damage the front does it have to go back to the factory to be repaired/replaced as that is one long item.
The front is more integral to the vans structure than an ABS front so will a repair be more difficult?
Will this not increase the cost of repair ie its not just an new abs front its a roof and front so will insurance be increased on them?
The front and roof is all one piece if you damage the front does it have to go back to the factory to be repaired/replaced as that is one long item.
The front is more integral to the vans structure than an ABS front so will a repair be more difficult?
Will this not increase the cost of repair ie its not just an new abs front its a roof and front so will insurance be increased on them?
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The insurance quote in this months PC show the peg substantially cheaper than its competitor.
I was impressed with the construction videos myself, having watched them 3 times each, and also wondered about the front/roof panel replacement, but when you think about it, its basically nuts and bolts to change it?
Having said that i would expect perhaps a short replacement front with a traditional joint to cover the repair may be possible.
Maybe bailey could make the information available?
I was impressed with the construction videos myself, having watched them 3 times each, and also wondered about the front/roof panel replacement, but when you think about it, its basically nuts and bolts to change it?
Having said that i would expect perhaps a short replacement front with a traditional joint to cover the repair may be possible.
Maybe bailey could make the information available?
I've read on another forum that Bailey says the Pegs leave the factory with an 85Kg noseweight, that's minus the 15.5Kg chest.
You do have the cushions spare to put in place of the chest if you need to.
The insurance is relatively low due to the securities that come with the van.
As a matter of interest tyre pressures are give as 63 p.s.i. in the manual that comes with the Peg. but it's plated as 55p.s.i.
I queried this with Bailey to be told to use the plated figure.
Apparently the N.C.C. have issued new guide lines for tyre pressures.
This is the 10% safety margin on the MTPLM.
Tom
You do have the cushions spare to put in place of the chest if you need to.
The insurance is relatively low due to the securities that come with the van.
As a matter of interest tyre pressures are give as 63 p.s.i. in the manual that comes with the Peg. but it's plated as 55p.s.i.
I queried this with Bailey to be told to use the plated figure.
Apparently the N.C.C. have issued new guide lines for tyre pressures.
This is the 10% safety margin on the MTPLM.
Tom
Bailey have just confirmed the 524 as 77kg noseweight exworks!!!
I thought the Bretagne s7 was noseweight heavy at 67kg and that was with the chest in situ!!
I have ordered the chest too, but as that is about 2/3 of the distance from the axle to the hitch, it will have a 10kg effect on the noseweight.
Thank goodness it does not have a huge front locker, that will reduce the amount of detritus (or any other word of similar meaning!!) I can load the nose with. Better make sure the internal water container is completely empty before travel!
I thought the Bretagne s7 was noseweight heavy at 67kg and that was with the chest in situ!!
I have ordered the chest too, but as that is about 2/3 of the distance from the axle to the hitch, it will have a 10kg effect on the noseweight.
Thank goodness it does not have a huge front locker, that will reduce the amount of detritus (or any other word of similar meaning!!) I can load the nose with. Better make sure the internal water container is completely empty before travel!
Ray / Mikey
One thing I noted on the Caravan Channel feature was the rear bumpers that the Peg and Oly have. That should reduce accident repairs as it is 5 bolts rather than a whole new panel and maybe this counters the extra cost of the front and roof as one piece in the eyes of the insurance company.
One thing I noted on the Caravan Channel feature was the rear bumpers that the Peg and Oly have. That should reduce accident repairs as it is 5 bolts rather than a whole new panel and maybe this counters the extra cost of the front and roof as one piece in the eyes of the insurance company.
Yes agreed but i have tended to find that for just a scrape on these areas people not to claim as they have to pay the policy excess and its a claim against themselves.
If you are going to pay an excess you can get say caravan medic to repair it for the same cost?
Hopefully the part shouldnt be too expensive and you could replace yourself?
I do think if its a front damaged and the whole piece has to be replaced time consuming removing heki's and wiring fom the roof?
If you are going to pay an excess you can get say caravan medic to repair it for the same cost?
Hopefully the part shouldnt be too expensive and you could replace yourself?
I do think if its a front damaged and the whole piece has to be replaced time consuming removing heki's and wiring fom the roof?
Mikey
On 'classic construction' caravans, to replace the front panels, you need new awning rails left & right so it still is not an easy job. For minor knocks as it is aluminium (I think), you could knock out and fill the front of a Peg. In comparison a conventional van would need a whole new panel.
IMO some accidents will be more complex with std construction, some easier. Perhaps it all evens out.
On 'classic construction' caravans, to replace the front panels, you need new awning rails left & right so it still is not an easy job. For minor knocks as it is aluminium (I think), you could knock out and fill the front of a Peg. In comparison a conventional van would need a whole new panel.
IMO some accidents will be more complex with std construction, some easier. Perhaps it all evens out.
As a left field approach with the optional front chest in a Peggy, you can reduce it's effect on nose weight by placing the chest in one of the alternative locations further back in the caravan.
If your going to start taking the van apart to travel then just leave it in the floor behind the axle on that none slip stuff
We were planning to move our chest over or slightly behind the axle as Scott has suggested.
Probably wrap it in foam and place it on a none slip mat or secure it in some way.
Don't really want to start loading the back of the van up with heavy stuff.
All really depends on then noseweight tests we do before we next go away at Easter.
Bought a Milenco noseweight gauge to replace older, fairly inaccurate one (never really got a sensible reading anyway).
We had the S6 Burgundy set up really well so it's going to be trial and error until we're happy.
Tom
Probably wrap it in foam and place it on a none slip mat or secure it in some way.
Don't really want to start loading the back of the van up with heavy stuff.
All really depends on then noseweight tests we do before we next go away at Easter.
Bought a Milenco noseweight gauge to replace older, fairly inaccurate one (never really got a sensible reading anyway).
We had the S6 Burgundy set up really well so it's going to be trial and error until we're happy.
Tom
Zafiral
From what I've read, yes it's pretty easy to move, but haven't done it yet.
Checked our noseweight this weekend with new Milenco gauge (which is to B.S.) and got a noseweight of 85Kg, that's without the front upholstery(cushions)but everything else ready to go.
That's with the chest in place by the way.
We have Aquaroll and waste carrier at the back with a couple of chairs, instead of carrying in the car.
We reckon we can balance it up fine to 80-85 Kg.
Tom
From what I've read, yes it's pretty easy to move, but haven't done it yet.
Checked our noseweight this weekend with new Milenco gauge (which is to B.S.) and got a noseweight of 85Kg, that's without the front upholstery(cushions)but everything else ready to go.
That's with the chest in place by the way.
We have Aquaroll and waste carrier at the back with a couple of chairs, instead of carrying in the car.
We reckon we can balance it up fine to 80-85 Kg.
Tom
Tom
What gas do you use, and how many cylinders did you have installed when you got your 85kg noseweight?
What gas do you use, and how many cylinders did you have installed when you got your 85kg noseweight?
Two 6kg Calor light cylinders, one full and one quite well down.
Side storage has levelling wedge and mainly light stuff.
Usually when we travelled with the S6 Burgundy we put the water containers with 2 chairs that we store under the bed in the car.
All we had then under the fixed bed in the wet area,were interlocking rubber mats we use with the awning.
Then with the van loaded as normal, clothes etc. we got a good nose weight by moving the Kojak and food in a box.
With the Peg. initially the nose weight bombed when we picked it up empty.
We've found though that by leaving the Aquarol in the toilet/shower and the waste water with chairs under the fixed bed, along with the Alko jackand toolbox weighing a bout 2.5 Kg.
We got as I said bang on 85 Kg which is the Sedonas max n/weight.
Yesterday we weighed the upholstery before putting it back in the Peg. and it came to around 34Kg.
So we're hoping now with the clothes (we don't take that many for the 2 of us)in the wardrobe and television on the bed (both behind the axle) and a bit of jiggery pokery we'll keep a sensible noseweight.
We'll obviously be loading the Peg. more than we did the Burgundy but fully laden it's only a 67% match for the Sedona.
We loaded it differently at Christmas to get a decent noseweight, which was guessology anyway with the old gauge, but it towed a treat, and that was in awful weather.
Hope this makes sense and helps.
Tom
Side storage has levelling wedge and mainly light stuff.
Usually when we travelled with the S6 Burgundy we put the water containers with 2 chairs that we store under the bed in the car.
All we had then under the fixed bed in the wet area,were interlocking rubber mats we use with the awning.
Then with the van loaded as normal, clothes etc. we got a good nose weight by moving the Kojak and food in a box.
With the Peg. initially the nose weight bombed when we picked it up empty.
We've found though that by leaving the Aquarol in the toilet/shower and the waste water with chairs under the fixed bed, along with the Alko jackand toolbox weighing a bout 2.5 Kg.
We got as I said bang on 85 Kg which is the Sedonas max n/weight.
Yesterday we weighed the upholstery before putting it back in the Peg. and it came to around 34Kg.
So we're hoping now with the clothes (we don't take that many for the 2 of us)in the wardrobe and television on the bed (both behind the axle) and a bit of jiggery pokery we'll keep a sensible noseweight.
We'll obviously be loading the Peg. more than we did the Burgundy but fully laden it's only a 67% match for the Sedona.
We loaded it differently at Christmas to get a decent noseweight, which was guessology anyway with the old gauge, but it towed a treat, and that was in awful weather.
Hope this makes sense and helps.
Tom
We are running BP light (one large, one small), & a 100 kg noseweight limit so we should be fine. Remember that some of the upholstery is near the axle so its effect will be much less than it's weight. Some of our current payload (lock, tv & jack) are std which should help. Roll on middle of May!!!
You should be fine with that noseweight limit.
I'm hoping to change the Alko jack over to our Kojack fittings, then we're off again at Easter.
i'm sure you'll really enjoy the new van.
All the best
Tom
I'm hoping to change the Alko jack over to our Kojack fittings, then we're off again at Easter.
i'm sure you'll really enjoy the new van.
All the best
Tom
Zafiral
Honestly never tried the Alko jack, in fact I haven't even had a look at mine.
I bought the Kojak for the Burgundy on the strength of what people said on this site about the superiority of the Kojak over the Alko.
Perhaps it's worth trying first, might have a go this week.
From what I gather the Alko is just a scissor jack.
Tom
Honestly never tried the Alko jack, in fact I haven't even had a look at mine.
I bought the Kojak for the Burgundy on the strength of what people said on this site about the superiority of the Kojak over the Alko.
Perhaps it's worth trying first, might have a go this week.
From what I gather the Alko is just a scissor jack.
Tom
Alan
Tired the Alko yesterday.
It isn't actually a scissor jack but I'm still very tempted to go with our Kojak again.
It seems a lot easier, especially when you can lower by just opening the valve rather than having to 'wind' it down.
Tom
Tired the Alko yesterday.
It isn't actually a scissor jack but I'm still very tempted to go with our Kojak again.
It seems a lot easier, especially when you can lower by just opening the valve rather than having to 'wind' it down.
Tom
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