Police dogs die in parked vehicle

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Two police dogs have died in a hot vehicle parked outside the headquarters of Nottinghamshire Police.

An RSPCA officer was called to the Sherwood Lodge headquarters in Arnold on Tuesday and found two German shepherd dogs dead.

An independent vet is carrying out post-mortem tests to establish how the animals died.

The incident has been voluntarily referred to the Independent Police Complaints Commission (IPCC).

'Swiftly reported'

Nottinghamshire's Assistant Chief Constable, Peter Davies, said: "This is a tragic incident and we value the important work our police dogs carry out on a daily basis.

"That is why we swiftly reported this incident to the RSPCA and we will be working with them very closely."

In a statement Nottinghamshire Police said the welfare of all animals owned by them was, "of paramount importance and we endeavour to take every measure possible to ensure their well-being and safety".

The force refused to say what kind of vehicle was involved.

Nottinghamshire vet Andrew Wilson said: "The dehydration would have been a big factor.

"They wouldn't be able to cool themselves because panting wouldn't be effective any more, there would be no evaporation from the tongue.

"As the core temperature rose as a result of that, and the brain temperature rose, the brain would cease to function and various other organs would fail. This happens certainly within 30 minutes".
 

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A very timely reminder regarding how badly dogs, and other animals, suffer in the temperatures we are having.

What also amazes me are those owners who think it still ok to make a dog chase after a ball in the blazing sunshine, but have no means of giving the dog water to drink.............
 

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Damian

I totally agree with you. I don't even walk mine in this heat. If it's cooler at 4am, then they'll be walked and if it's cooler at 10pm, then they'll get walked.

Mine have a pool in the garden (15ft) they can jump in and swim, supervised at all times of course.

The number of people at horse shows, competitors and public who leave their dogs in vehicles in hot weather is incredible.

Lisa
 

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A spokesman for the IPCC said the "matter had been referred to them on Tuesday afternoon and they were considering it".

An RSPCA spokesman said: "It was reported to us yesterday by Nottinghamshire Police.

"We are investigating and they are co-operating with us.

"I am sure this isn't the first incident and it won't be the last."

Safety measures

Chairman of the Nottinghamshire Police Authority, John Clarke, said: "This is a truly tragic incident. I am deeply disturbed to learn of the deaths of these police dogs, which play such a vital role in the fight against crime.

"The RSPCA has been informed and will, I am sure, carry out a thorough and speedy investigation.

"The authority has asked to be provided at the appropriate time with a full report into the circumstances.

"In the meantime we are requiring a guarantee from the force that measures are being put in place immediately to ensure that an incident like this can never happen again."

The Dogs Trust, the UK's largest dog welfare charity, said it was "saddened" by the news.

In June last year Nottinghamshire Police made a public appeal for German Shepherd dogs to be donated to increase the number of working dogs in the force.

Training a police dog to the standard where it can go out with an officer on patrol costs an estimated
 
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"Mine have a pool in the garden (15ft) they can jump in and swim"

send me the address Lisa and I'm on my way round

ps don't forget to put a few cold beers in the chilla
 
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Updated:

A spokesman for the IPCC said the "matter had been referred to them on Tuesday afternoon and they were considering it".

An RSPCA spokesman said: "It was reported to us yesterday by Nottinghamshire Police.

"We are investigating and they are co-operating with us.

"I am sure this isn't the first incident and it won't be the last."

Safety measures

Chairman of the Nottinghamshire Police Authority, John Clarke, said: "This is a truly tragic incident. I am deeply disturbed to learn of the deaths of these police dogs, which play such a vital role in the fight against crime.

"The RSPCA has been informed and will, I am sure, carry out a thorough and speedy investigation.

"The authority has asked to be provided at the appropriate time with a full report into the circumstances.

"In the meantime we are requiring a guarantee from the force that measures are being put in place immediately to ensure that an incident like this can never happen again."

The Dogs Trust, the UK's largest dog welfare charity, said it was "saddened" by the news.

In June last year Nottinghamshire Police made a public appeal for German Shepherd dogs to be donated to increase the number of working dogs in the force.

Training a police dog to the standard where it can go out with an officer on patrol costs an estimated
 

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Croc, the beers in the fridge, me and the dogs are going in the pool in about 15 minutes, it's absolutely brilliant.

Have you ever ridden on a giant lobster in a pool? No? Well you've never lived. LOL!

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I can't tell you how outraged I am about this incident with the police dogs.

The police are still being coy in what information they are releasing. They have now said it wasn't a Police vehicle. They are doing a great PR job at the moment though. Officers in full uniform are accepting flowers from the public (outside hq).

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Christ all mighty,surely people arnt suprised at this episode.

This is the police were talking about,as much use as a chocolote fire guard.More interested in getting home with the blues on for the dinner.Totally incompetant just like the pricks running the country.Its totally amazing how two animals could be forgotten about and left to die.
 
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Lisa speaking of the number of dogs lefyt in cars at horseshows what about the number of riders who don't think to take water for their horse? People don't seem to think, as long as they are cool and have a drink then thats fine. My house has been in darkness all week because I leave the blinds closed to keep it cool for the dog, not that she appreciates it she just destroys the blinds :D
 

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Personally, I think we've got the best police force in the world. There are hiccups no doubt about that at all. But whatever the circumstances of the dogs' deaths, heads must roll for this. What annoyed me even more was when Chief Supt Ak Khan announced:

"We will certainly take any lessons we can get from this process and make sure we put them in place so this sort of thing never happens again".

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Er, excuse me, we're talking about working dogs which are valuable team members of the police force. Their welfare should be on an equal par to that of serving officers. Unbelievable.

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Hi Cate

I agree with you about riders not taking water with them for their horses. I'm pleased that a lot of venues are now supplying water for drinking and also hosing horses down. Although at Newark showground, the plonkers insist on using the fire hoses to get water. Something which they arn't allowed to do and Newark showground now fines people for doing that.

With some people, who exhibit or work dogs and horses, all that matters is the ribbons and ticket.

I covered an event in Yorkshire a month or two back and during the simulated coursing (two dogs running together, uphill, with a left turn and a right turn, quite a hard course), there were a few dogs which escaped their handlers and ran onto the course with their leads flying behind them. That also happened a couple of times in the racing too. How crazy is that?

Bless your dog, destroying the blinds. We have a couple of fans for our dogs it circulates air, but it's mainly warm air in the day, however, during the night the air cools slightly which is a lot better.

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Seth

Personally, I think we've got the best police force in the world. There are hiccups no doubt about that at all. But whatever the circumstances of the dogs' deaths, heads must roll for this. What annoyed me even more was when Chief Supt Ak Khan announced:

"We will certainly take any lessons we can get from this process and make sure we put them in place so this sort of thing never happens again".

_____________

Er, excuse me, we're talking about working dogs which are valuable team members of the police force. Their welfare should be on an equal par to that of serving officers. Unbelievable.

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Hi Cate

I agree with you about riders not taking water with them for their horses. I'm pleased that a lot of venues are now supplying water for drinking and also hosing horses down. Although at Newark showground, the plonkers insist on using the fire hoses to get water. Something which they arn't allowed to do and Newark showground now fines people for doing that.

With some people, who exhibit or work dogs and horses, all that matters is the ribbons and ticket.

I covered an event in Yorkshire a month or two back and during the simulated coursing (two dogs running together, uphill, with a left turn and a right turn, quite a hard course), there were a few dogs which escaped their handlers and ran onto the course with their leads flying behind them. That also happened a couple of times in the racing too. How crazy is that?

Bless your dog, destroying the blinds. We have a couple of fans for our dogs it circulates air, but it's mainly warm air in the day, however, during the night the air cools slightly which is a lot better.

Lisa
We no longer havethe tie bits at the bottom and at the top they are only loosely attached as she just shreds them. We don't have fans going, she would wreck them as soon as she heard the postie, but we have a slate floor in the kitchen and tiles in the bathroom which she can lie on so they are cool for her.

I never understand why so many people rug their horses (in medium weight rugs) in weather like this, it's madness. And I get so annoyed when people don't make sure their horses, dogs or any animal has access to fresh water all the time. At the stables where I keep my old pony there was a shetland mare and new foal that wouldn't have had water for a week if it hadn't been for my dad filling it everday.

People need to think a little more. You dogs are so lucky having a pool, I always wanted one for the horses, I can still dream x
 

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Seth

Personally, I think we've got the best police force in the world. There are hiccups no doubt about that at all. But whatever the circumstances of the dogs' deaths, heads must roll for this. What annoyed me even more was when Chief Supt Ak Khan announced:

"We will certainly take any lessons we can get from this process and make sure we put them in place so this sort of thing never happens again".

_____________

Er, excuse me, we're talking about working dogs which are valuable team members of the police force. Their welfare should be on an equal par to that of serving officers. Unbelievable.

__________________

Hi Cate

I agree with you about riders not taking water with them for their horses. I'm pleased that a lot of venues are now supplying water for drinking and also hosing horses down. Although at Newark showground, the plonkers insist on using the fire hoses to get water. Something which they arn't allowed to do and Newark showground now fines people for doing that.

With some people, who exhibit or work dogs and horses, all that matters is the ribbons and ticket.

I covered an event in Yorkshire a month or two back and during the simulated coursing (two dogs running together, uphill, with a left turn and a right turn, quite a hard course), there were a few dogs which escaped their handlers and ran onto the course with their leads flying behind them. That also happened a couple of times in the racing too. How crazy is that?

Bless your dog, destroying the blinds. We have a couple of fans for our dogs it circulates air, but it's mainly warm air in the day, however, during the night the air cools slightly which is a lot better.

Lisa
Have you ever seen one of those equine walk in water treatment jobbies? (Sorry can't think of the name), the horse walks into a small box with no water, there is a conveyer belt, they close the doors, the belt is started, then the horse goes from walk, trot, canter and the warm water is filling the box. I accompanied a fire officer doing an inspection on a high class yard a few years back and saw one of these in action. It's awesome. They had a proper dying area too.

At a livery yard close to where I live (and put my pony out on loan there but soon moved it), a young girl was killed whilst in a stable with the vet. The mare was foaling and struck out, sadly, it struck the poor young girl in the head and killed her straight away. This is the same BHS approved yard which in most of the fields, never had any water, they used the same tack on 11hh's as on a 16 hh's, absolutely disgusting.

However, to give you a flavour, the 'owner' - long story, was on the Tricia show about five years ago and she was also in Take a Break, I kept the Take a Break mag. Nutter doens't even cover it.

Lisa

p.s. If you'd like me to post a copy of the article, contact the mods and ask for my email address. Having said that, I'll have to check I've still got the mag, I keep it at work.
 
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I'd like to think that the loss of the dogs was a tragic accident. Dog handlers have a close bond with their dogs so I would be careful about levelling blame before the full story is known.

On the other hand comparing this story to the other thread on Cats there seems to be a strange level of care here. Up in arms over the sad death of dogs and then suggestion of blatant cruelty towards cats.

The out cry I've seen on the web and here seems strange as people seem to care more about two dogs than fellow countrymen who get a raw deal from the ppppppp _ _ _ _olice.
 
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Croc, the beers in the fridge, me and the dogs are going in the pool in about 15 minutes, it's absolutely brilliant.

Have you ever ridden on a giant lobster in a pool? No? Well you've never lived. LOL!

______________________________________

I can't tell you how outraged I am about this incident with the police dogs.

The police are still being coy in what information they are releasing. They have now said it wasn't a Police vehicle. They are doing a great PR job at the moment though. Officers in full uniform are accepting flowers from the public (outside hq).

Lisa
Cant say I'v had tha that pleasure yet, I'v led a shelted life
 
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the station the dogs were at had new kennels built so why was they left. a man on the tv put a thermometer in his car at the site for 20 mins and 20 mins later it was a soring 45 inside his car omg those poor dogs.

i hope he gets it.

jo
 

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