Rear View Camera

[johnandrew70]

The offcut I have is about 18 inches long,as I have a Bailey I sprayed it with some plasticote beige paint its not a perfect match but it works.I used a fused ignition controlled live to feed it and turn it on and off at the monitor,at night it can be distracting but its brightness is variable and has infra red so it works well in the dark.Power from van battery would work just as well
The lead I used is CAB 050 from Reversing Cameras UK tried to post a link but didnt work.The monitor is MON 291,I did have a bluetooth one but it was terrible sound and also didnt get picture straight away so I replaced it with a normal one.

I'll try and get some pics tomorrow and post

I bought an inline switch from Ebay i intend to take a fused feed direct from the vans battery with the switch being under one of the seats in the van,This way i am also hoping i wont get noise on the camera when the engine is running as i do with the reversing camera on the car. I am also going to have a splitter for the Video in the van to connect to the tv.
The kit i bought came with 2 cameras, i still have no idea what to do with it, I did think of putting it on the front of the car but i really dont see what i will gain from it any ideas??

 

[DeliDave_]

You could mount it so that you can see when you have overtaken something that its clear,if not its always useful for a spare.I didnt remove mine one winter and it got damged by the snow covering it I beleive.

 

[johnandrew70]

You could mount it so that you can see when you have overtaken something that its clear,if not its always useful for a spare.I didnt remove mine one winter and it got damged by the snow covering it I beleive.

i didnt think of that, i wonder if anyone else has had problems with the cold weather/snow damaging there cameras,

 

[Sproket]

A good quality camera will have it's IP code (Liquid ingress protection) on the camera or at least in the sales advert

IP66 or higher is the one to get.

IP65 -
Water projected by a nozzle (6.3 mm) against enclosure from any direction shall have no harmful effects.....
Test duration: at least 3 minutes Water volume: 12.5 litres per minute Pressure: 30 kPa at distance of 3 m

IP66 -
Water projected in powerful jets (12.5 mm nozzle) against the enclosure from any direction shall have no harmful effects.
Test duration: at least 3 minutes Water volume: 100 litres per minute Pressure: 100 kPa at distance of 3 m

 

[DeliDave_]

I,m wondering if the snow freezing over it might not have helped,who knows.I didn't go to check it in storage too often in the winter lol

 

[johnandrew70]

does anyone know if the 12v socket in the van is live when the car is hitched up??

 

[WatsonJohnG]

does anyone know if the 12v socket in the van is live when the car is hitched up??

It should be disabled by the habitation relay
You could use the fridge feed from the car 12S or direct from the caravan battery/motor mover terminal

 

[johnandrew70]

does anyone know if the 12v socket in the van is live when the car is hitched up??

It should be disabled by the habitation relay
You could use the fridge feed from the car 12S or direct from the caravan battery/motor mover terminal

the fridge feed wont be any good as I want to use it when not hooked up to the car as well as hooked up to the car if that makes sense haha the motor mover has an isolator on it so that's out of the question too. I asked about 12v sockets as there is on right next to the tv and would be great to just plug in before leaving. Also good for just plugging in at night to see what's going on. I will have to run a feed from the battery and use a switch on it. Maybe I could use the solar connection. Does anyone know if this is fused?

 

[xtrailman]

I viewed from the caravan for the first year, but didn't find the view that useful, so no longer bother.
I use a 12S plug and socket, so to view inside the caravan i had a 12s socket on a trailing lead coming from a wet locker, that just plugged into the plug on the A frame, that would normally plug into the car.

 

[xtrailman]

I used the foam backed cable holders on the roof, but added a little adhesive too.

Is that cheaper than Sikaflex, which is quite expensive IMO.

Thats what i meant Ray.
I managed to acquire a tube of PU adhesive sealer from work, its used to stick spoilers and bodykits to cars its not sikaflex its made by T Euro, i was going to get a tube of sikaflex but one of the lads said they use this T Ero stuff in the workshops so i thought i may as well give it a go.
if its strong enough to stick spoilers and body kits it will be strong enough to hold a lightweight camera.
http://www.tradegroup.co.uk/products/sealers/p-u-sealer-cartridges/

It was £2.99 to me trade. Well it would have been

I cut the upvc and mounted the camera to it today it has a lip on it which will fit nicely to the back of the van, just awaiting a few bits to come in the post then it should be action stations for Saturday, Also i think the weather is supposed to be good too.
Here is a pic of the camera mounted to the upvc.Sorry about the size of the pic i ca never figure out what size to put

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I used a piece like that, but fitted the camera to the short edge, and had the end vertical, this allows adjustment left and right, as the twin camera i have only allows adjustment up and down.

 

[johnandrew70]

My camera has got left and right adjustment but you need to remove the camera from the bracket each time so set it for the full rear view.
well hopefully it should all be done tomorrow, Well the van part anyway, the car wiring can be done home here i will test it before leaving though so i know its working.
Fingers crossed the adhesive sets in good time as i am not going to be able to return to the van until next weekend and the following week we are going away

Also does anyone know what i should use to clean the van prior to using the adhesive all i have here is thinners and i think it may be too harsh on grp, I might just stick the adhesive straight on the grp and see what happens.

 

[WatsonJohnG]

does anyone know if the 12v socket in the van is live when the car is hitched up??

It should be disabled by the habitation relay
You could use the fridge feed from the car 12S or direct from the caravan battery/motor mover terminal

the fridge feed wont be any good as I want to use it when not hooked up to the car as well as hooked up to the car if that makes sense haha the motor mover has an isolator on it so that's out of the question too. I asked about 12v sockets as there is on right next to the tv and would be great to just plug in before leaving. Also good for just plugging in at night to see what's going on. I will have to run a feed from the battery and use a switch on it. Maybe I could use the solar connection. Does anyone know if this is fused?

You could use the supply to the motor mover on the isolator switch where the wire from the battery is attached
I do as its got a nice threaded stud to fix a terminal to he

he

 

[Surfer]

does anyone know if the 12v socket in the van is live when the car is hitched up??

It should be disabled by the habitation relay
You could use the fridge feed from the car 12S or direct from the caravan battery/motor mover terminal

the fridge feed wont be any good as I want to use it when not hooked up to the car as well as hooked up to the car if that makes sense haha the motor mover has an isolator on it so that's out of the question too. I asked about 12v sockets as there is on right next to the tv and would be great to just plug in before leaving. Also good for just plugging in at night to see what's going on. I will have to run a feed from the battery and use a switch on it. Maybe I could use the solar connection. Does anyone know if this is fused?

You could use the supply to the motor mover on the isolator switch where the wire from the battery is attached
I do as its got a nice threaded stud to fix a terminal to he

he

If you have got a motor mover why bother with a rearward camera for the caravan?

 

[xtrailman]

I took the supply off the mover as John suggested.

Preparation for the roof fixing, i washed the area, dried it off and cleaned again with white spirit, my roof is painted alli.
Then allowed to cure for a few days, i was also generous with the adhesive.

 

[xtrailman]

"If you have got a motor mover why bother with a rearward camera for the caravan?"

My mover doesn't give any rear view image.
The usual answer is, if you know how to reverse why bother to buy a mover

 

[johnandrew70]

"If you have got a motor mover why bother with a rearward camera for the caravan?"

My mover doesn't give any rear view image.
The usual answer is, if you know how to reverse why bother to buy a mover

Right my rear view camera (not reversing camera) is all fitted it all went quite well took a feed direct from the battery with a 3amp fuse and inline switch.
The cable is hidden quite well in the awning rail then follows the chassis rail to the front where i have brought the cables into the van with a splitter on the video feed i have then attached a more heavy duty video cable to go back through the floor and and heads to the a frame, The splitter in the van means i could at some point plug the tv into it.
I still need to run the video cable from the dash in the car to the rear might do that tomorrow.
here are some pics

Sorry they arent very good but you get the idea

 

[Gafferbill]

This is a genuine question..........what is a rear view camera for on a car and caravan outfit?

I know it will obviously tell you what is directly behind your caravan but how does that help?
OK there is a benefit for slow speed reversing I can see that.

For me once fitted the safest thing you could do with it would be to turn it off and concentrate on what is happening in front where closing speeds of any potential problem could be at over 100mph.

Perhaps an audible warning proximity aid for the rear of caravans would be better?

 

[WatsonJohnG]

This is a genuine question..........what is a rear view camera for on a car and caravan outfit?

I know it will obviously tell you what is directly behind your caravan but how does that help?
OK there is a benefit for slow speed reversing I can see that.

For me once fitted the safest thing you could do with it would be to turn it off and concentrate on what is happening in front where closing speeds of any potential problem could be at over 100mph.

Perhaps an audible warning proximity aid for the rear of caravans would be better?

Its for the blind spot which is pretty big behind a caravan and less so behind a car
I can switch between sat nav screen and rear view and find that after overtaking it helps because if you can see a lorry on the screen then you have to be in front of it and can pull in sooner
I also use it at junctions or when leaving home to see if anything has come over the crest of the hill as I am slowly pulling out
Its amazing with good Milenco mirrors fully extended on the Kuga how big an approaching vehicle can only be seen on the screen on straight roads
Again a benefit when overtaking as you avoid pulling out when the fast driving motorway entrant etc has driven up to the back of the caravan before swooping out to overtake
When travelling with another outfit it takes lot of the strain out of seeing if they are still with you
As to on the car my reverse gear and reversing lights seem to mean to many people that its OK to walk behind my moving vehicle and often the reversing screen plus reversing sensors save many a confrontation on supermarket car parks

 

[johnandrew70]

This is a genuine question..........what is a rear view camera for on a car and caravan outfit?

I know it will obviously tell you what is directly behind your caravan but how does that help?
OK there is a benefit for slow speed reversing I can see that.

For me once fitted the safest thing you could do with it would be to turn it off and concentrate on what is happening in front where closing speeds of any potential problem could be at over 100mph.

Perhaps an audible warning proximity aid for the rear of caravans would be better?

An audible warning would just tell you that a car is there somewhere, with the camera you can see in real time where they are, As john has said its ideal when overtaking and pulling back in, lets face it the extended mirrors are ok but unless you are on a straight road they may as well be on the back seat of the car haha at least now i get a full vision from my mirrors showing down each side of the can and the camera showing whats directly behind me and further back down the road in all 3 lanes on a motorway, Happy days

 

[johnandrew70]

This is a genuine question..........what is a rear view camera for on a car and caravan outfit?

I know it will obviously tell you what is directly behind your caravan but how does that help?
OK there is a benefit for slow speed reversing I can see that.

For me once fitted the safest thing you could do with it would be to turn it off and concentrate on what is happening in front where closing speeds of any potential problem could be at over 100mph.

Perhaps an audible warning proximity aid for the rear of caravans would be better?

Where did you get your flag Gafferbill ?? I would like a St Pirrens flag flapping like that.

John

 

[Surfer]

"If you have got a motor mover why bother with a rearward camera for the caravan?"
My mover doesn't give any rear view image.
The usual answer is, if you know how to reverse why bother to buy a mover

Surely all you do is stand at the back of the caravan when reversing it with a mover? Cheaper and simpler than using a rearward camera. BTW I know how to reverse, but putting our caravan into storage without a mover is not possible.

 

[xtrailman]

This is a genuine question..........what is a rear view camera for on a car and caravan outfit?

I know it will obviously tell you what is directly behind your caravan but how does that help?
OK there is a benefit for slow speed reversing I can see that.

For me once fitted the safest thing you could do with it would be to turn it off and concentrate on what is happening in front where closing speeds of any potential problem could be at over 100mph.

Perhaps an audible warning proximity aid for the rear of caravans would be better?

When you drive solo you use the interior mirror, not possible with a lot of caravans, so you lose that view.
A rear view camera gives you back that view, plus some more due to the angle of lens, but it does make the objects seem smaller.

My caravan has a twin camera, which allows a rear view and a reversing view, which essentially just means its focused to the back end of the caravan, just like a cars reversing camera.

 

[johnandrew70]

"If you have got a motor mover why bother with a rearward camera for the caravan?"
My mover doesn't give any rear view image.
The usual answer is, if you know how to reverse why bother to buy a mover

Surely all you do is stand at the back of the caravan when reversing it with a mover? Cheaper and simpler than using a rearward camera. BTW I know how to reverse, but putting our caravan into storage without a mover is not possible.

Hi Surfer
Its not being used as a reversing camera its as its name suggests rear view camera when on motorways and dual carriageways to make it safer when overtaking,,,,Nothing to do with reversing.
John

 

[Dustydog]

This is my first post on this thread. I've been watching with some intrigue.

Let's get a get a grip here before we start making rear view cameras mandatory!

You won't see cameras on any CC reversing course.

If they were that good every coach HGV and bus would have one,.

OK we have one on our charity bus but it's only good for reversing up to a parked car rather than the whole picture, eg overhanging trees etc.

It won't improve your reversing ability and can actually lull you into a false sense of security.

If you can't reverse in a straight line on mirrors only don't expect a camera to solve you inability.

 

[WatsonJohnG]

This is my first post on this thread. I've been watching with some intrigue.

Let's get a get a grip here before we start making rear view cameras mandatory!

You won't see cameras on any CC reversing course.

If they were that good every coach HGV and bus would have one,.

OK we have one on our charity bus but it's only good for reversing up to a parked car rather than the whole picture, eg overhanging trees etc.

It won't improve your reversing ability and can actually lull you into a false sense of security.

If you can't reverse in a straight line on mirrors only don't expect a camera to solve you inability.

You seem to have missed the point
Maybe its a blindspot
The topic is headed
Rear View Camera
Not reversing