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hi does any body out there no of a sat nav program that has caravan sites listed as well as fuel stations etc i would like to download it on to my memory card thanks franklin
 

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Hi Franklin

There is a Sat nav download on the Caravan Club web site. However, it only covers sites on their network.

Hope this is of use.

JT
 
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Hi Franklin

There is a Sat nav download on the Caravan Club web site. However, it only covers sites on their network.

Hope this is of use.

JT
thanks jt do you know if camping and caravan club have this franklin
 
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Go to http://www.pocketgpsworld.com

and you will get almost anything you need for your sat-nav. You only have to pay for Speed cam down-loads - everything else is free
 
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Go to http://www.pocketgpsworld.com

and you will get almost anything you need for your sat-nav. You only have to pay for Speed cam down-loads - everything else is free
hi many thanks got exactly what i wanted franklin
 
Mar 14, 2005
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Hi

Tried to find caravan routes on www pocketgps no joy

Probably me more info please.

Have looked at some directions on CC www and would not drive a car down some roads they advised much less a van as well. Or am I missing something re Sat Nav
 
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Mike, the Caravan Club tends to say not to use satnav when travelling to their sites for the very reason that you mention. Many satnavs use shortest route which is often NOT the quickest. Much better to use the directions in the handbook.
 
Mar 14, 2005
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Hi Franklin,

Isn't the Global Positioning System (GPS) a most incredible piece of technology? It never ceases to amaze me that a small hand held or dash board mounted device can receive information from moving satellites overhead and establish its position on the surface of the earth with such accuracy.

The application of GPS to routing is down to software and the digitisation of map information. Hung onto these systems and an increasing number of applications , and one of them is commonly known as Points Of Interest, and your site list would most likely be published as a POI file.

Increasingly small interest groups such as caravanning, may get access to such lists, but they do cost money to produce and keep up to date, so they are not wide spread, and as JT points out they may be incomplete due to a commercial interest providing sponsorship to a particular list.

Mike has found that the other aspect of Sat Navs, is their inability to differentiate between roads that are suitable for different types of vehicles - such a cars towing caravans. We have heard stories of lorries and coaches getting stuck in narrow lanes, or on farmers fields, and the drivers have blamed the Sat Nav. - well it is true that most sat navs available to-day cannot set different routes for caravans. But that is no excuse as the majority of road signs advising of narrow lanes or low bridges etc, are there, and must take precedence over the instructions from a Sat Nav. The drivers that get stuck must have been driving without due care and attention!

A couple of years ago, and as a result of an increasing incidence of lorries using inappropriate roads, a number of local authorities have brought pressure to bear on the companies that produce the digital maps, and the routing software to work round these problems. As a result there have been a few professional versions of Sat Nav that do take into account the size of the vehicle when producing a route plan. In reality, a car towing a caravan is closer to a lorry in terms of performance and road space required, so perhaps choose a Sat Nav that the professional drivers use.

I have this week purchased a new map set and programme, and I have been testing it out, and yes it now recognises a number of roads that it previously ignored, but it also now has introduced a totally crazy result on one road in my area.

I frequently need to travel between two local towns in the West Midlands, and the best route is get onto the A452 - Chester Road. Half way between the tow towns, my new mapping system tells me to turn off the A452 along a narrow lane on a steep hill. About
 
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Hi Franklin,

Isn't the Global Positioning System (GPS) a most incredible piece of technology? It never ceases to amaze me that a small hand held or dash board mounted device can receive information from moving satellites overhead and establish its position on the surface of the earth with such accuracy.

The application of GPS to routing is down to software and the digitisation of map information. Hung onto these systems and an increasing number of applications , and one of them is commonly known as Points Of Interest, and your site list would most likely be published as a POI file.

Increasingly small interest groups such as caravanning, may get access to such lists, but they do cost money to produce and keep up to date, so they are not wide spread, and as JT points out they may be incomplete due to a commercial interest providing sponsorship to a particular list.

Mike has found that the other aspect of Sat Navs, is their inability to differentiate between roads that are suitable for different types of vehicles - such a cars towing caravans. We have heard stories of lorries and coaches getting stuck in narrow lanes, or on farmers fields, and the drivers have blamed the Sat Nav. - well it is true that most sat navs available to-day cannot set different routes for caravans. But that is no excuse as the majority of road signs advising of narrow lanes or low bridges etc, are there, and must take precedence over the instructions from a Sat Nav. The drivers that get stuck must have been driving without due care and attention!

A couple of years ago, and as a result of an increasing incidence of lorries using inappropriate roads, a number of local authorities have brought pressure to bear on the companies that produce the digital maps, and the routing software to work round these problems. As a result there have been a few professional versions of Sat Nav that do take into account the size of the vehicle when producing a route plan. In reality, a car towing a caravan is closer to a lorry in terms of performance and road space required, so perhaps choose a Sat Nav that the professional drivers use.

I have this week purchased a new map set and programme, and I have been testing it out, and yes it now recognises a number of roads that it previously ignored, but it also now has introduced a totally crazy result on one road in my area.

I frequently need to travel between two local towns in the West Midlands, and the best route is get onto the A452 - Chester Road. Half way between the tow towns, my new mapping system tells me to turn off the A452 along a narrow lane on a steep hill. About
 
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With John on his assessment of Sat Navs.

They are an aid to help you and should not be relied upon as 100% accurate.

I've got Sat Nav software on my Smart phone and it allows me to plan a route setting places I wish to travel to or avoid by setting waypoints.

I always check out the sites direction details and create my route accordingly , same goes for any known major roadworks and road closures (I'm lucky that I get daily notifications at work from around the country of any road closures and redirections).
 
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Hi

We fell foul of relying too much on the sat nav for directions. On our very first outing, from taking ownership of our 'van, and me brand new to towing, we ended up driving down a very narrow country lane, with all the high BP and swearing that goes with being stressed!

Anyhow, I wondered if there were Ponts Of Interest (POI) or specific route parameters that I could programme into my sat nav, and found that they (TomTom)provided sets of narrow/low access POI. These show various restrictions for height (bridges etc) and road width. I found that by plugging in the destination and then browsing the route, it helps me to make a choice on what/where to avoid. Coupled with having a shufty at the map beforehand and getting the real, live sat nav (the missus)in on the act, we seem to manage a bit better than on our first outing.
 
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I would not be so quick to critise those who have fallen foul of their sat navs and got stuck, I nearly had a problem on my first outing with the van. Trip down no problem. Unbeknownst to me however, the sat nav decided to plot a different route for the return journey, why I have no idea!

Anyway, I had to make a left turn off the main road. Now my memory is not fantastic, but it did seem that the turn was earlier than when I was on the way down. The turning looked like a normal road of usual width so I turned down it.

It was only after I had made the turn that I was confronted with a sign that had been hidden by an overgrowing tree, and was impossible to see before I made the turn. Yep you guessed it - 'Max width 6'6"' (Except for access), with the road beyond rapidly narrowing!

So given the choice of trying to reverse a caravan back on to a busy road on my own, I made the assumption that seeing as something bigger than 6'6" can use the road for purposes of access, then the van would at least physically fit, even if it was not technically permitted!

It did - just, but I had to be very carefull with my road positioning down the network of small lanes that it lead me, especially when making turns at junctions. Thank god they were so quiet I never met anything coming the other way!

So it can often be the case that any sat nav error only becomes obvious when it is too late to do anything about it!

I was not happy!!
 

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