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Snowing here as well.

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We have been waiting for a dry day to cover the rear furniture up. Too late for this year I feel.

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Whereabouts in the country are these pictures from?

I am near Fleet in Hampshire at our sons. There is no snow here, but at 10:30 it is -4⁰C
 
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Wiltshire. My son lives near Maesteg and no snow there. He’s disappointed as he’s not long had a set of Michelin all season tyres for his Freelander and is keen to try them out.
 
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Whereabouts in the country are these pictures from?

I am near Fleet in Hampshire at our sons. There is no snow here, but at 10:30 it is -4⁰C


My pictures are from Gloucester, still coming down but lighter now. But it is 1.4 degrees so it is not sticking everywhere.

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We were heading south on the M5, for a day's bird-watching at Slimbridge, but the snow was quite heavy as we approached Cheltenham at about 8:30 so we turned round and headed back north - I gather that heavy snow caused an accident, shutting the M5, later in the morning.
 
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We were heading south on the M5, for a day's bird-watching at Slimbridge, but the snow was quite heavy as we approached Cheltenham at about 8:30 so we turned round and headed back north - I gather that heavy snow caused an accident, shutting the M5, later in the morning.
Yes roads in that area are not good . Westonbirt closed, Longleat closed, Airballon closed and main A road north from Swindon closed. Earlier this morning we had to push two delivery vans up the slope in our close as the were getting nowhere. This is the first year in over 12 years we have not had car with All Season tyres and seeing the difficulty some motorists are having on slight slopes I may just bin the little Kia Rios tyres and buy some all seasons. Our previous ittle Nissan Note was amazing during the Beast from The East with its AS Michelins on.
 
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I have always been amazed at some drivers, with light snow how they panic. But it is all to do with tyre types and tread profiles, and driving styles. In our area we seldom see more than 1 inch of snow. Yet with my tyres and car , Hankook k117 and a Santa Fe, I can happily cope with 4 inches of snow.
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Yes roads in that area are not good . Westonbirt closed, Longleat closed, Airballon closed and main A road north from Swindon closed. Earlier this morning we had to push two delivery vans up the slope in our close as the were getting nowhere. This is the first year in over 12 years we have not had car with All Season tyres and seeing the difficulty some motorists are having on slight slopes I may just bin the little Kia Rios tyres and buy some all seasons. Our previous ittle Nissan Note was amazing during the Beast from The East with its AS Michelins on.
One of my passengers asked if I'd fitted my winter tyres, so I explained that I'd changed to using All-Season tyres which are also winter-rated, ie 3PMSF marking - I'm using Vredestein Quatrac Pro which are very effective but the Michelin CrossClimate, Nokian Weatherproof, Goodyear Vector 4 Seasons and Bridgestone Weather Control are all doing well in tests - I don't think our little Citroen C1 will ever do enough miles to need new tyres but winter-rated All-Seasons will be fitted if we do.
 

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I'd say that problems encountered in snow, ice and rain are more due to the abilities of the driver rather than the choice of tyres.

I have never fitted winter tyres. Even when I lived in Canada where daily snow falls of several centimetres were encountered I just had all season tyres.

It's possible that on paper winter tyres may give you a better stopping distance or grip compared with regular tyres but how can you tell what that is in practice. Does it mean you can corner faster or stop quicker...compared to what?

Ability to read the road conditions and drive accordingly seems to me to be the best practice rather than relying on technical data and technology.
 
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I'd say that problems encountered in snow, ice and rain are more due to the abilities of the driver rather than the choice of tyres.

I have never fitted winter tyres. Even when I lived in Canada where daily snow falls of several centimetres were encountered I just had all season tyres.

It's possible that on paper winter tyres may give you a better stopping distance or grip compared with regular tyres but how can you tell what that is in practice. Does it mean you can corner faster or stop quicker...compared to what?

Ability to read the road conditions and drive accordingly seems to me to be the best practice rather than relying on technical data and technology.
I try to combine the two, reading the road and driving to conditions AND fitting the best tyres to suit UK weather conditions - rather than picking one over the other.
 
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I'd say that problems encountered in snow, ice and rain are more due to the abilities of the driver rather than the choice of tyres.

I have never fitted winter tyres. Even when I lived in Canada where daily snow falls of several centimetres were encountered I just had all season tyres.

It's possible that on paper winter tyres may give you a better stopping distance or grip compared with regular tyres but how can you tell what that is in practice. Does it mean you can corner faster or stop quicker...compared to what?

Ability to read the road conditions and drive accordingly seems to me to be the best practice rather than relying on technical data and technology.
Whilst that’s partially true modern summer tyres have little grip in snow conditions, compared to all seasons. Few areas in Britain require full winter tyres but dome do. In December 1981 I had a Marina estate and drove back from Leicester to Bath primarily by the M5 and M4. The car had myself, my wife, two kids and two large dogs. It was snowing as we left Leicester such that south of Tewksbury only the M5 outer lane was open. On the M4 towards Bath many vehicles of all types were stuck but we made it to the Bath exit even getting up the slip road onto the A46 roundabout. But there we were halted as the road into Bath had been closed. A major snowplough was being dug out. We spent several hours along with lots of other motorists in the gritting depot, soup tea and coffee provided. A few miles away the Queen en route from Gatcombe to Windsor was ensconced in a local hotel due to the conditions.

I’ve lived in the Lakes and Dartmoor but generally managed to stay mobile. I think it was because the tyres in those days had more sipes and tread blocks that you could obtain better traction than is the case with todays summer tyres. Hence my preference for All Seasons.
 
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Took our two dogs to visit friend in Switzerland, they loved the snow, sadly cannot down load the video. I loved winter in Northern Pakistan , Gilgit and Chitral) ,when I worked there early 1990's, had to live in Yurts, at times and take the helicopter battery into the tent to keep it warm. . But hated Yak butter in the morning tea.
 
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A few years ago. knokian Weatherproof, I think I got 42k out of them. Very good tyre.
My son had weather proofs on his FL2 and rated them highly in bad conditions. He lives in Wales. Nokias now make a slightly less aggressive AS tyre more akin to Michelin, Goodyear and Continental ones. I had Bridgestone Weather Control on the Subaru which not being as good as some other makes in snow seemed optimised for wet and slush winter conditions. Excellent on wet pitches too. 3PMSF rated too.
 
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Getting back to the dogs, our little Harry hates having a coat on. So he only gets it on if it is really cold. 2c and he is walking rather than running around. .
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Whilst that’s partially true modern summer tyres have little grip in snow conditions, compared to all seasons. Few areas in Britain require full winter tyres but dome do. In December 1981 I had a Marina estate and drove back from Leicester to Bath primarily by the M5 and M4. The car had myself, my wife, two kids and two large dogs. It was snowing as we left Leicester such that south of Tewksbury only the M5 outer lane was open. On the M4 towards Bath many vehicles of all types were stuck but we made it to the Bath exit even getting up the slip road onto the A46 roundabout. But there we were halted as the road into Bath had been closed. A major snowplough was being dug out. We spent several hours along with lots of other motorists in the gritting depot, soup tea and coffee provided. A few miles away the Queen en route from Gatcombe to Windsor was ensconced in a local hotel due to the conditions.

I’ve lived in the Lakes and Dartmoor but generally managed to stay mobile. I think it was because the tyres in those days had more sipes and tread blocks that you could obtain better traction than is the case with todays summer tyres. Hence my preference for All Seasons.

That was the year before we moved to Glos. Locals talked about those conditions, Though built up now, we moved to a village, locals told us that almost the only vehicle that could get through the lanes were milk floats. But it has not happened since then.

John
 

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