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Hi John .Yes we did buy our van from new.Im not having a go here it just seems strange to me why you should be treated any different to what I have. I do hope you manage to get this sorted I feel maybe if you post on Swifts forum for the attention of Andy Spasey or Ash Dhir you may well get a better response.My previous van was an Ace Supreme and had a shower problem which I explained to Swifts in their forum and two days later a new shower head arrived that van was about 4 or 5 yeras old .
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I had a lot of issues with Swift when I first bought my van.

I found that as a consumer, you don't have that much clout when speaking direct to Swift themselves (there used to be a lady called Kath who was there).

However - your dealer, who works closely with Swift, should be putting the case forward for you.

I think you might have more of a case as and when the blinds rip. At the moment, if they are as new, then technically, there's nothing wrong with them which is why Swift are dragging their heels.

Talk to you dealer - remind them that you will be looking for a new van one day and their service will sway your decisions.

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John, we have a 2008 Challenger 560. Within months of purchasing our caravan from new, Swift authorised our dealer to replace all the pleated blinds in our van, due to them all being peppered with pin-pricks along the creases. It is a well known problem and the blind manufacturers supplied new ones, using a thicker material, which, although very similar in appearance, have a larger pattern on them than the original ones.
After paying several thousands of pounds for our Challenger 560, we have been disappointed to have experienced problem after problem, some of them quite major, including having to have all the front windows replaced soon after purchase, due to another known problem when the window panes were manufactured too close together, resulting in the panes flexing and touching, especially after motorway driving, leaving white contact marks on the windows.
Two weeks ago, we were on a CL when we noticed 'bubbling' of the wall board under the front nearside window due to water ingress, which is going to be fixed by our dealer at the end of this month.
We would have preferred to have had NO problems with our caravan, of course. But, almost all the faults we have had have not been Swifts fault, but the fault of the supplying manufacturers (windows, door lock, upholstery, blinds etc.) and Swift have responded to all our problems by instructing our dealer to sort them out immediately.
A lot of the problems we have experienced with our caravan could have been picked up with more vigorous Quality Control by Swift (for instance the microwave wasn't fixed to anything and almost slid out of the housing after one trip). It may be a good idea that workers fitting out caravans have to sign for work they have done.
I suppose we have been lucky that we have a very good dealer which has been supported by Swift.
 
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John, we have a 2008 Challenger 560. Within months of purchasing our caravan from new, Swift authorised our dealer to replace all the pleated blinds in our van, due to them all being peppered with pin-pricks along the creases. It is a well known problem and the blind manufacturers supplied new ones, using a thicker material, which, although very similar in appearance, have a larger pattern on them than the original ones.
After paying several thousands of pounds for our Challenger 560, we have been disappointed to have experienced problem after problem, some of them quite major, including having to have all the front windows replaced soon after purchase, due to another known problem when the window panes were manufactured too close together, resulting in the panes flexing and touching, especially after motorway driving, leaving white contact marks on the windows.
Two weeks ago, we were on a CL when we noticed 'bubbling' of the wall board under the front nearside window due to water ingress, which is going to be fixed by our dealer at the end of this month.
We would have preferred to have had NO problems with our caravan, of course. But, almost all the faults we have had have not been Swifts fault, but the fault of the supplying manufacturers (windows, door lock, upholstery, blinds etc.) and Swift have responded to all our problems by instructing our dealer to sort them out immediately.
A lot of the problems we have experienced with our caravan could have been picked up with more vigorous Quality Control by Swift (for instance the microwave wasn't fixed to anything and almost slid out of the housing after one trip). It may be a good idea that workers fitting out caravans have to sign for work they have done.
I suppose we have been lucky that we have a very good dealer which has been supported by Swift.

It makes me quite mad to think that because we bought our van second hand we are then classed as a secont class owners, you say you have had everything sorted out by swift and like i have said before you bought your van from new.
I paid 10k for our van and dont see that as small change in fact i see it as a lot of money so expect things to be right, i dont expect to have to pay hundreds of pounds out to replace blinds that have issues that the manufacturuer knows about but chooses to do nothing about it.
maybe i should speak to Black Horse who financed the caravan to see if anything can be done as i beleive Swift do know there is a problem with those blinds and dont want to hold there hands up to it.
For now i just need to wait and see what happens will they rip or not.
One thing is for sure Swift have deffinately gone down in my estimation.

John
 
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Hello John,

I feel as though we have been here before. As a customer your contract is with your seller, and that applies regardless of whether its brand new or second hand.

With a brand new caravan you may also get a manufacturers guarantee which is a separate contract the manufacturer gives you for free, but never the less it is a contract and as such it has limited scope as defined in its terms and conditions. In general the manufacturers warranty only applies to the original purchaser.

In some cases some of the rights can be transferred to subsequent owners, but regardless the rights of the manufacturers warranty is a gift, and if the the issue is not part of the Manufacturers warranty or the policy has not been transferred the manufacturer has no obligation to the purchaser unless they made the retail sale.
 
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Hi John A,

13 days on you do not appear any further forward?

Have you written to your dealer setting out your complaint?

If you would like some impartial help , no strings attached, in drafting a letter please ask Parksy to send me your e mail address.
 
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Dustydog said:
Hi John A,

13 days on you do not appear any further forward?

Have you written to your dealer setting out your complaint?

If you would like some impartial help , no strings attached, in drafting a letter please ask Parksy to send me your e mail address.

That would be great thanks, My email addy is my username on here at sky.com cheers

John
 
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johnandrew70 said:
Dustydog said:
Hi John A,

13 days on you do not appear any further forward?

Have you written to your dealer setting out your complaint?

If you would like some impartial help , no strings attached, in drafting a letter please ask Parksy to send me your e mail address.

That would be great thanks, My email addy is my username on here at sky.com cheers

John
I'll get a draft over to you tomorrow John.
 
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Dustydog said:
johnandrew70 said:
Dustydog said:
Hi John A,

13 days on you do not appear any further forward?

Have you written to your dealer setting out your complaint?

If you would like some impartial help , no strings attached, in drafting a letter please ask Parksy to send me your e mail address.

That would be great thanks, My email addy is my username on here at sky.com cheers

John

I'll get a draft over to you tomorrow John.

Thank you DustyDog
 

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