the bias of English caravan press

Dec 2, 2006
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I have the joy of owning a Hobby, in spite of all the scare mongering seeking to disuade us UK buyers. I go away regularly with two other families and one of them now has a Hobby having seen ours and the other is just waiting to sell his UK van and has the specific Hobby in mind.

Why do the British caravan press not highlight the far superior quality of german vans. Why do the magazines hardly ever feature them. Are they funded by British manufacturers.

I know the travelling community are interested in "borrowing" Hobbies. I just keep it safely locked away. All other scare stories about insurance, getting on sites, gas regulations etc etc came to nothing.

My tip.

Ignore the press, but German every time.
 
Jun 21, 2006
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Everyone to their own taste, but Hobby's are not for me.

I have ordered my fifth Bailey. Perfection to my mind.
 
Nov 13, 2007
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I'm new to this caravanning business and at the moment due to an expanding little family I'm looking for our first caravan.

I'm looking to spend
 
Nov 2, 2006
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We too love the interior of the hobby and fendt, our friends have a 690 hobby massive thing to tow but no bother to them, however after posting on here before regarding these caravans we have decided to stick british mostly because of the legal issue we not willing to take the chance did would be our luck that something would happen. But if ever they change the law we would go for one.
 
Nov 11, 2007
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I have a Hobby, I purchased the optional oven (factory fitted) and the airconditioning. Note that the roof didn't need to be strengthend and when I ski this winter I shall be warm and comfortable in my Hobby down in the Tyrol.

It wont let water in for at least five years and the whole thing won't fall apart after twelve months (well, they are not meant to be used for more than two weeks a year sir!!)Yes, an English manufacturer actually said that!

The English Hobby dealer is Hobby manufacturing's worst feature so I buy mine from Germany. I am on my third , dont ask . its a long story of my changeing circumstances. You can buy from Germany and get a reduction in price, the trick here is to regard the collection trip as a holiday and have some fun in the beutiful black Forest region.

When I was in Switzerland, I looked in the Hobby dealer there and noted the lack of VAT, a usefull incentive and I will investigate further in January when Hobby is on his way to the Tyrol

See this site for good info

http://www.ernst-caravan.de/HTMLeng/eng-wohnw.html
Buy British? You must be joking.

Arthur Croasdell
 
Jul 20, 2007
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Phillip wrote: " Why do the magazines hardly ever feature them. Are they funded by British manufacturers"

Well, yes - indirectly, by advertisements, of course they are.

You'll never change some people's 'Little England' mindset, it's just a waste of time.

Let them have their flimsy, leaky, shoddily built British vans - it's a free country (well, relatively free, at the moment) and if they want to keep fattening up their local caravan dealer by constantly trading in their three year old sponge (in the vain hope that the new one will be better) then let 'em do it.

Next spring, the pantomime will begin again -

Scene One: Mr & Mrs Trusting go to their British van that's been stored over the winter. Mrs Trusting (who has a keen nose for bad odours) notices an all too familiar musty smell. She alerts Mr Trusting - who duly finds damp in the corners of the van (he's done this before on other British vans, so he's got a fairly good idea of what to look for by now)

Mr Trusting: By 'eck, our Ethel, t' van's got damp in it!"

Mrs Trusting: "Eee! - Ah'm reet vexed! - 'appen as 'ow it's just out o't' warranty"

Mr Trusting: "Don't fret, old love, we'll pop down and see that nice young man as sold us van in first place"

Scene Two: The Trustings are in their local caravan dealership (they've been going there for years - and they feel that the staff treat them just like one of the family..)

Mr Trusting (to the sharp faced youth with beer belly, who is the owner's son and heir, and also the dealership's sales manager) "Now, young Wayne, just you 'ave a look in 'ere - see 'ow spongy them walls 'as gone? - it's a bloomin' disgrace and we've only 'ad van these three year since!

Wayne (looking suitably troubled) Yes, I can see the problem - that's happened since we last tested it for damp.. Damp's like that - comes on in a matter of weeks"

Mr Trusting: "That's what you said last time, my lad - and t' time 'afore that, and...."

Wayne (hastily interrupting) Never mind, we're going to look after you (licks his lips involuntarily) Just come in the office and we'll work out our best price to change it for one of this year's models"

Mr Trusting: But won't it be made exactly the same as this one is, Wayne?, and won't the new one leak same as all our other new ones 'as done?"

Wayne (breezily) "Oh no - there have been some problems in the past - but that's all sorted now. The 2008's use a new kind of mastic on the seals"

Mrs Trusting; "Aye, an' you've said that 'afore, an all!

Mr Trusting: (interjecting) "Come on old love - don't take it out on young Wayne - 'appen as 'ow we've just been unlucky, an' see 'ow they's trying to 'elp us - 'ave you got t' cheque book?!

(Wayne sets of purposefully toward the sales office - reminding the more uncharitably minded observer of a cruising shark on the lookout for a good meal, closely followed by Mr & Mrs Trusting, who like most owners of British vans, are the very embodiment of Hope over Experience ;)

British caravans, children? - remember, just say 'no'!.....
 
Mar 2, 2006
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Hi Giest,

Im glad to hear that you are not bitter in anyway LOL,But I really can see it happening.
 
Aug 13, 2007
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Hi Jennifer,

I am having problems understanding what you mean by LEGAL issues.

I have a German Burstner caravan that is perfectly legal in this country & the rest of Europe.

We bought this van because our last British van had to have the offside removed & resealed when 10 months old.

At 26 months a window was leaking & replaced in Jan 07.

The van had to go back a total of 4 times between Jan & March 07, on the last occasion the origional side had to be removed & resealed.

No wonder that I now own a German van.

And a rasberry to you Eddie :eek:)

G.
 
Mar 2, 2006
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We have had two T.E.C Weltbummlers a 740 which was 2.5 mts wide and a 510HTE the latter burning to the ground and we replaced it with a big mistake,I mean a lunar delta 640 ew,we decided to change the lunar for a decent van and I thought great we will get back to the german quality,I was looking at a Knaus starclass while my wife was looking at another T/A a rallye 644,we discussed the pros and cons,I wanted the starclass and I put my foot down.WE drove home with the Compass Rallye 644.

We have had it three weeks and been away every weekend and its been great it, is going back to Mendip caravans in evesham for some warranty work ie the freezer door catch needs replacing and the chrome on top of the plastic taps has flaked and need replacing.They are going to come out to a site near evesham while we are visiting our son and his wife,and they will do the work there,I told the wife the knaus had metal taps,she gave me the look,and I shut up.enough said.....
 
May 25, 2005
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We owned a Hobby three years ago. However, it was wider than the legal limit towable in this country (over 2.5m) without a 3.5 tonne truck. We had ours sited on a seasonal pitch, which took some finding as site owners are dead set against having them on their land.

We found the inside to be very austere, even with the mood lighting, and the seating was not comfortable. The food preparation area was poor. Our 'van didn't have a battery but a transformer. This was OK, but I much prefer a battery backup. The transformer, on occasions, also buzzed noisily, usually late at night and during the early hours causing sleep disturbance. We eventually had it replaced and it was slightly better. Yes, we did have the luxury of a large King sized island bed.

There are also limitations when trying to insure Hobby 'vans.

Having returned to the UK models I must say I do prefer them.
 
Nov 2, 2006
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Graham, the legal issue i was refering to was the 8' wide as we already have a british twin axle and would only change for another twin axle this rules the German ones out for us unless someone knows of one that is 7'6" then we would be very interested.
 
Aug 13, 2007
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Hi Jennifer,

Most German vans are legal 2.3 mtr or 7ft 6ins wide.

I have a Burstner Trecento @ 2.3mtr wide.

German manufacters do make vans over this width but most on sale in this country are legal.

Send off for some brochers & compare the sizes, then compare how much better German quality is.

G.
 
Nov 2, 2006
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Thanks Graham i must do that, we really love the interior of the hobby and fendt but any we have looked at have been 8' wide, we have not seen any burstner in dealers here (Northern Ireland) and our local hobby dealer has told us that the twin axle models are all 8' wide and not reccommended for towing on our roads, they sell them mostly to be put on seasonal sites.
 
Dec 13, 2005
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Hobby vans up to and including 540 models and Fendt models up to and including 550 can be towed by "normal" cars/vans/4x4s etc - any models above these are not illegal BUT must be towed by vehicles with a maximum gross weight of 3501kgs and above
 
Aug 13, 2007
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Hi Jennifer,

My Burstner 530 is 7.5 mtr. long & single axle.

I cannot say if German twin axle vans are over 2.3 mtr wide.

If you are interested in Burstner caravans I can highly recomend Camper UK Ltd of Lincoln. They gave us a fantastic deal on this van & fitted some extras FOC. Nothing is too much for them.

We hope to come over to North & Southern Ireland again next year, it will be our 4th time.

G.
 

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