The rules for dogs on site,

[Guest]

What can I say, I had my first motor bike when I was about 4 but was never taken or allowed out to a public place.

Motor power on a Public park, I can't see that being legal in the UK.

Though it's very sad I would say the parent was guilty!

To be fair I could have killed my self on my push bike going faster than 10 mph escaping from my mum and careering down the hill to the local village, and nearly did numerous times ;@(

 

[LMH]

The parents did blame themselves, particularly the father who became very very ill.

The dog was for guarding purposes only and was kept on a chain in a fenced off area. The boy was told to keep away from it. They did have the dog put down a year or so before the tragic event happened.

Their son is buried in the graveyard a couple of hundred yards away from their house. Very sad.

Lisa

 

[Guest]

I can understand Litespeed having a fear of dogs, lots of people have phobias. I wouldn't agree with him/her kicking the dog though, deserves to get bitten if that's the case. Just turn away from the dog and don't make eye contact.

As a person who lives in Cornwall it seems strange that Liespeed isn't awayre of the local bye-laws. The vast majority of Cornish beaches are banned to dogs from Easter Day or April 1st, whichever is sooner until October 1st.

I've just closed my eyes and pictured Litespeeds scenario but somehow can't get on the same wavelength. Where do you go Litespeed? Please let me know because having travelled from Brora in the north to Marazion in the south I've never yet experienced this picture that you paint on ANY caravan site.

Yes, dogs do bark, mine do to, but not like you describe. Children scream so shall we ban them also? Like you with dogs kids also frighten me riding their bikes around my caravan .... heh! heh! heh! (joke for the humourless ones).

Simple answer is to book a site where dogs are banned, like those who prefer not to be disturbed by children pick Adult Only sites.

I'd love to know where these beaches in Cornwall are though :O)

Same here LB, I agree with you mainly. But some phobic;s need a kick up *** **** and to get a hold on their lives )

 

[spj]

Hi all,

it is difficult to judge dogs as they and their owners are all different but if the rules say they stay on a lead then they all should, people have the same difficulty understanding the no ball games rules.

We have a Siberian Husky, she is part of the family and goes everywhere possible with us, she as the breed in general cannot be let off the lead so this rule does not effect us as it is normall for her to be on the lead all the time, she does not bark or growl, is never left in the caravan on her own and so I would find it difficult to believe she could annoy other site users although I see plenty of dogs on sites that annoy me. If out on a walk she will jump up at people if encouraged, but we are aware of this and keep the lead short as she could easily bowl a child over, basicly if the owner is responsible there should be no problems, we are lucky as our dog does not bark and has never shown any aggression.

When we walk her she (if allowed) will go up to other dogs and normally play with them or just sniff but I do keep her away from Bull Terriers and Rottweilers, even as a dog lover I just do not trust them which is my choice.

I think euro's comments on noisey children are perfectly valid, they make much more noise than dogs and some can behave far worse, like I said before the dog owner (or parents in a childs case) is fully responsible. I also agree there are plenty of beaches that do not allow dogs on so why moan? just use one with no dogs.

We will be in Cornwall in 3 weeks time and we will be on the beaches (dog friendly beaches) but our dog will be on a lead and cleaned up after unlike many others, if anyone did kick her she would be the last thing they would ever kick, but then she only approaches when we let her, loose dogs can be a pain and I have walked off many times with another dog in tow that wont leave ours alone and the owner shouting trying to get it back, I just keep walking.

Hitting out or kicking a dog when it approaches you is stupidity, what kind of parent would do such a thing? the kids will grow up just as stupid and possibly get badly bitten for their actions, I agree the dogs should not be loose but kicking them is asking to be bitten. If it is ok to kick a dog when it approaches or jumps up, is it ok to kick a child if they come to you and put their hands on you?

spj.

 

[Lord Braykewynde]

A website you might be interested in spj ....

http://www.thecornishcoast.co.uk/

 

[Guest]

For caravanners to the Swindon area we have enjoyed some of these walks. Non dog lovers don't bother

http://www.tarastrails.co.uk/

 

[GillandMike]

Thanks for the link, euro. We are live near Swindon so ideal for us.

 

[LMH]

Hi spj

I'm sorry to hear you can't let your dog off its lead. How do you manage to give it all the exercise that breed needs?

I think you are right to err on the side of caution regarding other people's dogs approaching yours, particularly bull terriers and rotties. I don't allow any dog to get too close to mine because you just don't know what other people's dogs are like. Canine body language is easy to read but can the owner of the other dog read it? Probably not.

My younger dog was attacked by a Giant Schnauzer and sustained some quite nasty injuries when he was just ten months old (I don't trust that breed). My dog was on its lead at the time.

I can't stand dogs which jump up at people whether they are on leads or not, it's not something my two are allowed to do. I'm not sure if I'd hit a dog which jumped up at me, but I would certainly knee it in the chest.

Lisa

 

[trucker]

Why is it that when some people talk about dogs its dog owners this and dog owners that. Thats like saying all retired people are the same all lorry drivers are the same or all caravaners are the same.

In all walks of life people are different some parents have poor parenting skills some dont, some dog owners are irrisponsible some are not. Dont tag everyone the same.

I like walking my dog on the beach, i enjoy it and the dog enjoys it, but ill go to a beach which is dog friendly.

I let my dog off the lead on the canal path in tiverton every day I always pick up and when people are comming with or without children i heal him till they are past. He now heals most of the time without command when he sees people comming.

Maybe im in the minority but as I said dont tar all with the same brush. (gosh his dog is off the lead puts on his helmet for incomming fire )

Kevin

 

[trucker]

Forgot to say on campsites he is always on a lead as that is the rules

 

[Litespeed]

3 points:

I shouldnt have to turn away from a dog and not make eye contact just to stop it jumping up on me or my children....If the dog is liable to jump up it should NEVER be off a lead! If a dog jumps up on me I have every right to defend myself from it!

Have you ever visited Perranporth beach on a Sunday afternoon - Totally disgraceful! DOG POO CITY! (before you say, no I never go there anymore - shame because it is a loveley beach.

Surely HUMAN children come much farther up the ladder than Dogs!

Children are just that - Children, they play, have fun and admittedley do make noise but never ever as much as a barking dog!

Sorry everybody, I just dont like dogs....or smokers!!

 

[Oklahoma]

Same here LB, I agree with you mainly. But some phobic;s need a kick up *** **** and to get a hold on their lives )

Someone recently asked whether the beaches at St Ives in Cornwall allow dogs. We have just got back from there and there is a very small but pleasant beach (not one of the main 4)down some steps between Porthgwidden and the harbour. We watched most evenings whilst walking along the coastal path in St Ives, people taking their dogs down to this beach. The dogs were having a great time splashing in and out of the water and some small children and families playing there with their dogs. It was away from the main beaches and obviously dogs must be allowed on there all the time. You could stop on the path there and look down which was lovely but they were away from everywhere else.

 

[Dustydog]

I love my dogs. They are aggressive , barking mad , foaming at the mouth, stink, covered in ticks and fleas . The good news , they don't smoke!! LOL

Cheers

Alan

 

[trucker]

3 points:

I shouldnt have to turn away from a dog and not make eye contact just to stop it jumping up on me or my children....If the dog is liable to jump up it should NEVER be off a lead! If a dog jumps up on me I have every right to defend myself from it!

Have you ever visited Perranporth beach on a Sunday afternoon - Totally disgraceful! DOG POO CITY! (before you say, no I never go there anymore - shame because it is a loveley beach.

Surely HUMAN children come much farther up the ladder than Dogs!

Children are just that - Children, they play, have fun and admittedley do make noise but never ever as much as a barking dog!

Sorry everybody, I just dont like dogs....or smokers!!

are x smokers ok??

 

[PhilJoanne-SwiftCorniche173]

That will be Bodnant then

Hi plotter, yes your right

 

[DeliDave]

Havent got a dog but I,ve never seen one kick a ball at my van or scrape its bike down the side of my car,Ive only been bitten once and that was one of the grandkids Am quite happy with dogs on the whole

 

[PhilJoanne-SwiftCorniche173]

Hi Phil&Joanne-Swift Corniche 17/3

I'm replying to this thread in the hope thats it's not another wind up.

Personally, if it was me in your situation, I would approach the owners and say in a polite manner 'I notice that your dogs roam around the site, that's fine, they're friendly dogs. However, I'd just like to clarify that I pick up after my dog/s all the time. Any dog mess that you might find will not belong to my dog but yours or perhaps any other caravanners who arrive on site with dogs and don't pick up after theirs'.

I still think this post is a wind up.

Lisa

Hi Lisa , sorry but its not a wind up , I dont mind following rules, but we expect those who set the rules to follow them too, Phil&Joanne

 

[davedee]

I've visited Cornwall many times and was there about a month a go visiting a cousin and family friends.

Sorry Lightspeed but you come across as being Paranoid about dogs. I've never seen anything like you describe and many Cornish beaches ban dogs as they do in many other counties. If I were a dog owner I would ask why you do not use them.

As a serial caravanner I find far more noisy young children than dogs on caravan and camp sites that annoy others. We take two of our three young grandaughters caravanning and will take our third one when she is old enough.

I see far more dogs on French beaches when at home and most people seem to enjoy seeing Families at play, dogs are part of the family!

Caravanners have to put up with parents who will not chastise their unruly children, noisy ill mannered brats, people who drink to much and talk and play a variety of noise box's to loud.

It's a two way trade, your take on dogs comes across as a little over the top Lightspeed.

As a non dog owner caravanner I can't accept that a minority of dog phobic's can start demanding what others do.

We enjoy dogs on site and would not want people to exclude them from their leisure time, and our little girls have made friends with some very nice dogs whilst caravanning.

Very well said,Euro. Here,Here.

Dave

 

[PhilJoanne-SwiftCorniche173]

Steady Phil & Joanne, dog topics are a contentious issue on here, along with hundreds of others, and could lead to your thread being deleted but I agree with you 100% :O)

Hi Lord, is it contentious because the site advertises with Practical? we see the top 100 sites listed but not the 100 worst, should we not know about poorer standards so we dont book until they get there act toghether

 

[Lord Braykewynde]

Havent got a dog but I,ve never seen one kick a ball at my van or scrape its bike down the side of my car,Ive only been bitten once and that was one of the grandkids Am quite happy with dogs on the whole

Lmaaaaoooooo :O)

 

[Lord Braykewynde]

I love my dogs. They are aggressive , barking mad , foaming at the mouth, stink, covered in ticks and fleas . The good news , they don't smoke!! LOL

Cheers

Alan

Heh! heh! heh!

 

[davedee]

Havent got a dog but I,ve never seen one kick a ball at my van or scrape its bike down the side of my car,Ive only been bitten once and that was one of the grandkids Am quite happy with dogs on the whole

Just the thought makes your eyes water.

Dave

 

[catherine2]

and I thought caravanning was supposed to help one chill out! Get a life all of you whingers -Personally, I love dogs and dislike children as a breed, but accept that I know I am going to encounter them on most sites so try to accept them as best I can

 

[Colinn]

You have to despair of some dog-owners. We walked into a tea-room garden at the weekend and seeing a Rottweiller at one table sat well away with our two Border Collies because our younger dog has had a bad attack experience and gets agitated when big dogs are too close.

No problem for the duration of the cream tea - until I suddenly became aware that the said Rott was right behind me as the owners were leaving.

But amazingly the dog was on a loose extending lead and just lunged at our entire table, the owners making no attempt to stop it. Tea and cakes went everywhere! Dogs berserk! Me thumped in the back and covered in tea!

The owners finally pulled the Rotty back and just walked away. No apology, no regret, not a word, no nothing. By the time, order was restored, they had disappeared...leaving everyone fuming!

Tea room staff were brilliant, quickly cleaning things up and re-laying the table, etc, with fullsome apologies (not that they were in any way culpable).

But while there are dog owners like this around - what hope is there??

 

[LMH]

Hi Colinn

I had a little chuckle at your post. I wish you had had a camera to catch this on film. But I appreciate fully what you are saying and it's actually NOT funny.

There's thousands of stupid, thick dog owners around, it's unfortunate but a fact.

The irresponsible owners of the rottie were extremely lucky in the incident you describe. If you had had a dog aggressive dog with you, I doubt they would simply have walked away.

I have a policy now, if either of my dogs get threatened by another dog which is off lead (and I mean serious stuff, not just barking, snapping with hackles up), I will drop the lead, they are well capable of defending themselves. The problem lies with what happens if the idiot dog owner's dog gets finished off, even though their dog started things?? Major problem, but when you've had a lovely socialble friendly chap like mine seriously injured in the past, it's everyman for himself. It's not a good idea to lift your dog up (if it's not too big) as if a serious attack is forthcoming, then there is a high possibility that it's lower limbs and feet will get damaged.

People should have to pass a dog ownership competence test before they are allowed to own ANY breed or crossbreed. Just my opinion.

Lisa